Microsoft to force Windows updates?

[Testy]

I believe you are neither professional nor experienced.

Testy

 

[Gooneybird]

If it makes you happy to believe this, feel free. The facts don't
support your assertion.

I tend to agree with you. Poor old Bill Gates is undoubtedly snickering as he
pushes his wheelbarrow to the bank.

George Z.

 

[Rich/rerat]

Maybe this thread should be moved to MS general.discussion group, or to any other MS XP group. It does not belong here!!!

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I believe you are neither professional nor experienced.

Testy

 

[kurttrail]

Maybe this thread should be moved to MS general.discussion group, or
to any other MS XP group. It does not belong here!!!

Is someone forcing you to read this thread? If not, take responsibilty
for your own actions, and don't read it.

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[kurttrail]

I tend to agree with you. Poor old Bill Gates is undoubtedly
snickering as he pushes his wheelbarrow to the bank.

This is probably true, but while many businesses are Licensed to run XP,
many of those still have few machines actually running it. Some
businesses are still running NT4, eventhough they are licensed to run
XP, so the numbers that MS presents of machines licensed to run XP isn't
the actual number that actually run XP. It's not like putting a spin on
their numbers, is beneath the convicted predatory monopolist, this is
Microsoft.

What the actual numbers computers "running' XP is, nobody really knows,
but there is some "truth" in both sides of this particular discussion.

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[Rick]

I believe you are neither professional nor experienced.

Testy

Learn not to top post. Good first step.

Rick

 

[Testy]

As usual your opinion is useless.

Testy

Learn not to top post. Good first step.

Rick

 

[Jim Higgins]

PLONK!

Is someone forcing you to read this thread? If not, take responsibilty
for your own actions, and don't read it.

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[Dave C.]

I believe you are neither professional nor experienced.

Testy

Regardless of whether he's professional or experienced, he has noticed a
trend that most professional, experienced systems integrators HAVE noticed.
It is true that most business servers are migrating to non-Microsoft
operating systems. Last I checked, the ratio was 60% and rising. So I tend
to believe "Rick" is probably exactly who he says he is. -Dave

 

[kurttrail]

PLONK!

Thanks! Anybody else?! Some people really need to shield themselves
from the truth, or their whole belief system would start crashing down
around them!

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[Dave C.]

If it makes you happy to believe this, feel free. The facts don't
support your assertion.

The facts are, most business servers are migrating to non-microsoft
operating systems. Last I checked, the ratio was 60% and rising. It has
nothing to do with Windows XP in particular. It is more of an economic
reality. Businesses are finding that open source software is cheaper and
easier to maintain, as well as being more stable and less prone to errrrr,
problems than Microsoft solutions. It's not that they are "ignoring" XP.
It's just that XP happened to be the solution Microsoft was pushing around
the same time that most businesses started migrating to non-Microsoft
solutions. So it looks like XP is being ignored. But it's not a case of XP
or even Microsoft being ignored. It's a case of businesses weighing the
available options and (mostly) choosing to use the best software available,
even though it has no connection to Microsoft. So Microsoft shouldn't take
it personally. -Dave

 

[Testy]

The plain and simple facts simply do not support this. No company I know of
or work for has even considered this. Simple fact large companies with huge
investments in hardware and software are unlikely to make such a huge
change. While other OS's have made some inroads, the overwhelming percentage
will continue to use MS products. The percentage of home users is even more
staggering. A simple search for these statistics will bear this out.
Let's stick to FACTS and not merely state OPINIONS as facts.

Testy

 

[kurttrail]

The plain and simple facts simply do not support this. No company I
know of or work for has even considered this. Simple fact large
companies with huge investments in hardware and software are unlikely
to make such a huge change. While other OS's have made some inroads,
the overwhelming percentage will continue to use MS products. The
percentage of home users is even more staggering. A simple search for
these statistics will bear this out.
Let's stick to FACTS and not merely state OPINIONS as facts.

Then go ahead and do your simple search and present us some facts.

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[Rick]

Then go ahead and do your simple search and present us some facts.

Here are a couple Testy might find interesting:

"The rapidly growing Linux server market increased 35 percent to
$583 million from the year-ago quarter. "Unit growth and factory
revenue in the Linux market continue to climb, driven by increasing
functionality for Linux server hardware and software and by intense
competition between all the major server vendors,"

Meanwhile...

"IDC noted that the Windows server market grew nearly 10 percent
in 1Q03 in terms of factory revenue, compared to 1Q02."

http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/2215611

Rick

 

[Rick]

I do not dispute that Linux is making some inroads, but to suggest EVERYONE
switch

Who suggested that?

or that Linux is likely to overtake MS any time in my lifetime is
ridiculous!

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html

"Following on from last month, Microsoft continued to lose sites as
Network Solutions migrated the rest of their domain parking system
back to Solaris from a Windows based system hosted at Interland.
This is primarily responsible for Microsoft's 2.2% fall, with a net loss
of 810,597 sites."

If you don't like MS that is your choice I don't really care! No more than I
care what your sexual preference may be.

Who was it that said, "Let's stick to FACTS and not merely state
OPINIONS as facts"? Oh, now I remember. YOU.

Rick

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

Bob ward,
It not Microsoft that totally chooses to put xp on a system. It is
the oem manufactures. They decides what to put on their computers.

You can get a custom made system with Linux at computer shop, but they
are hard to find locally in most areas.

The problem with Linux is it does not run MS Office, I know Star
Office works. Star Office has some problems transferring files back
and fourth. Once Linux can really run all the software that windows
and dos runs. (Yes, I already know it can runs some some software
through x windows and dosemu.) Then Microsoft would have real good
competitor besides Apple.


Printers like Lexmark 74-75x don't work with Linux.

Greg P Rozelle

Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

Here more about Linux.
http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/linux/2003/0623linux2.html

Guys thier will be people like Testy that think windows is a great
system. probably because they had no problems with thier system.
Me. I prefer windows 98se but I willing to give Linux a shot once
they improve hardware compatibly.

Greg P Rozelle

Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[Testy]

You are right I have had no problems with XP neither have any of my 12
corporate customers and dozens of home users whose systems I look after. If
YOU don't like it or just aren't capable of making it work then don't use
it! If you have specific problems post them and get help, aimless whining
MUST STOP.

Testy

 

[Thomas M. Goethe]

The facts are, most business servers are migrating to non-microsoft
operating systems. Last I checked, the ratio was 60% and rising. It has
nothing to do with Windows XP in particular. It is more of an economic
reality. Businesses are finding that open source software is cheaper and
easier to maintain, as well as being more stable and less prone to errrrr,
problems than Microsoft solutions. It's not that they are "ignoring" XP.
It's just that XP happened to be the solution Microsoft was pushing around
the same time that most businesses started migrating to non-Microsoft
solutions. So it looks like XP is being ignored. But it's not a case of XP
or even Microsoft being ignored. It's a case of businesses weighing the
available options and (mostly) choosing to use the best software available,
even though it has no connection to Microsoft. So Microsoft shouldn't take
it personally. -Dave

It also seems that XP really doesn't offer business any greater
functionality that Win 2k. Further, businesses can still buy Win 2k and
already use and understand ait. Why change if there is no compelling reason.
Same reason for not moving to Office XP. Heck, my shop is still using Office
97.

 

[Lester Horwinkle]

When dealing with servers, I think we need to stop thinking about 2000 vs.
XP and think, instead, in terms of Win X.y vs Win X.z,
where z=y+1.

IT departments try to keep their business servers patched and upgraded to
whatever extent is possible in their business environment. Windows servers
should be no exception. Support (and compatibility) for older versions
declines. So keeping up is **usually** the right thing to do.