Microsoft to force Windows updates?

R

Richardson

And you have documentation of this? Or are you just flapping your
lips?

Unix variants are just as susceptible to worms and viruses as windows.
And they have plenty of security holes. Some built right in.

Andrew

Unless you can log into my box as root, you're not going to hack diddlysquat
on Jaguar. Windows security is swiss cheese in comparison.
 
R

Rick

You mean like Linux that recently had its source code seriously
compromised by hackers who had gained access to the servers it was
stored on?

Good grief, I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean.

In any case, it seems MS is making the latter choice of the two I
mentioned: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5063601.html

"Microsoft recognizes that, in the current global environment, matters
ranging from national defense to protection of citizens' personal data,
are top of mind," the company said in a statement.

"The company had previously signed up 12 governments to the program
[allowing access to Windows source code], including Russia, NATO,
China, Taiwan and the United Kingdom. Up to 35 other countries are
evaluating the program worldwide."

Rick
 
P

PCyr

Oh please. Simply put, Windows is a bigger OS, therefore, hackers
concentrate on Windows. Many Mac users say Macs are more secure because
they don't get hacked into. The reality is, Mac vulnerabilities aren't as
well know, because you don't have as many people picking it apart.

--
Check out http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com for amazing tweaks and fixes

Member of "Newsgroups are for everyone"

5 Steps to computer safety:
1) Use a good quality anti-virus, and keep it up-to-date.
2) Use a firewall. The one in XP works fine, but there are better ones out
there.
3) Keep Windows up-to-date. It's your choice whether or not you want the
recommended updates, but the critical updates are just that - critical.
4) Beware of adware and spyware. There are many programs that will help to
protect your computer, but it's up to you to prevent it as well. Make sure
you read the agreement of the software before you install it. It should
tell you if it will be installing any additional programs.
5) Be cautious of attachments. Microsoft NEVER sends out attachments via
email. Always scan all attachments before opening them.

Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
Change the obvious to the obvious.
------------------
 
J

Joh N.

(e-mail address removed), after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the
pen said:
Liars and trolls are like that.

Andrew

Stupidity seems to be a very strong trait in your family lineage.

Joh N.
 
K

kurttrail

Thomas said:
And he apparently creates new addresses to get around the kill
file.

So now I'm to blame because you're too stupid to filter my posts from
your view? Have you ever thought of not opening any post of mine that
happens to sneek though your pathetic attempt to filter me?

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.kurttrail.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
S

sipowtiz_00

No, a liar wouldn't even acknowledge any other truth other than their
own. And you are the one that's acting like the troll, Andy.

You have years of troll experience in the general group than no one
can match.

Andrew
 
D

David

It was! GWB stole the Election thanks to some partisan justices on the
US Supreme Court, and no one really seemed to cared at the time.

The questionable ballots should have just been tossed out and the
legiable ones counted only. If people aren't smart enough to figure out how
to use a ballot, they don't need to be voting.

David
 
S

sipowtiz_00

Sorry, your claim still doesn't make any sense:

"evidence suggests no source code distributions were modified
as a result of the attack. Current files have all been validated by
the FSF, which oversees the GNU Project."

And you expect them to say anything else? They are scrambling to cover
their asses. The only reason that this isn't a cause celebre is that
the open source community never criticizes one of it's own openly.

BTW, are you going to be happy paying Sun's cat paw, SCO $600 for the
use of Linux? Suits to follow.

Andrew
 
R

Rick

And you expect them to say anything else? They are scrambling to cover
their asses. The only reason that this isn't a cause celebre is that
the open source community never criticizes one of it's own openly.

It appears whoever got into their system was there to use it
simply as a relay. And as for "covering their asses", give me a
break. It's open source. There's no way to lie. If any source
code had been modified, a few million people would have
reported it by now.
BTW, are you going to be happy paying Sun's cat paw, SCO $600 for the
use of Linux? Suits to follow.

It's not for the use of Linux, it's for the use and support of SCO's
distribution of Linux. Are you claiming SCO's employees should
work for free?

Rick
 
S

stan

In misc.consumers PCyr said:
Oh please. Simply put, Windows is a bigger OS, therefore, hackers
concentrate on Windows. Many Mac users say Macs are more secure because
they don't get hacked into. The reality is, Mac vulnerabilities aren't as
well know, because you don't have as many people picking it apart.

What does that mean "bigger OS?"

Hackers prey on Windows users because they're such
easy pickings. There are other operating systems that
are as obscure, or more so, than OS X that also get
hacked so if you mean to imply that OS X simply isn't
as popular enough to get hacked, you're wrong. For
example, there are plenty of incidents where Solaris
has been hacked, yet it is far less common than Windows.
 
C

Chris Barnes

Strange how my Mac OS X system has no protection of any kind and it
has never been touched by any unauthorized intrudors, worms, or
viruses and I use it every day.

Simple economics (ie. supply & demand)

The supply of OS X boxes is miniscule compared to Windows boxes.
Therefore, the value of writing a virus/worm to exploit a OS X
vunerability is much smaller than the value of writing a virus/worm to
exploit a Windows vunerability.


Please do not respond with "my OS doesn't have vunerabilities" - it
simply ain't true.
 
P

PCyr

No, but obviously, they want to infect as many people as possible.

--
Check out http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com for amazing tweaks and fixes

Member of "Newsgroups are for everyone"

5 Steps to computer safety:
1) Use a good quality anti-virus, and keep it up-to-date.
2) Use a firewall. The one in XP works fine, but there are better ones out
there.
3) Keep Windows up-to-date. It's your choice whether or not you want the
recommended updates, but the critical updates are just that - critical.
4) Beware of adware and spyware. There are many programs that will help to
protect your computer, but it's up to you to prevent it as well. Make sure
you read the agreement of the software before you install it. It should
tell you if it will be installing any additional programs.
5) Be cautious of attachments. Microsoft NEVER sends out attachments via
email. Always scan all attachments before opening them.

Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
Change the obvious to the obvious.
------------------
 
P

Peter Hutchison

I explained that in my first response. Professional experience. I'm
a systems integrator and have seen very few companies moving to
WinXP, or any other Windows version for that matter. The trend
for the last two years has been away from MS and to Linux, BSD
and other unix-based OS's.
The University I am working for is moving to Windows XP. Its a very
stable platform and I enjoy using it.
Linux, Mac or other OSs are no good in our environment because:

a) Our core business software will only run on Windows clients
b) Most students will be familiar with Windows and will expect to use
Windows in the majority of companies which they work for. Yes, there
will be companies that use Linux, but when you look at KDE or Gnome,
they are using the same 'Windows' look and feel.
c) We have a good and cost effective volume licencing agreement with
Microsoft and other software companies.
d) We are moving away from Novell to Microsoft's Active Directory and
using Windows Server 2000/2003.

A good reason why some companies are not moving to XP is because,
either:
a) the PCs they are using are too old/slow to run XP.
b) The software they are running is old to run on XP and haven`t
bothered updating them
c) They cannot afford to upgrade to XP
d) They haven`t developed a proper upgrade strategy to move from
NT/2000 to XP or still in the process of doing so.

and there's bound to be other reasons.

Peter Hutchison
Windows FAQ
http://www.pcguru.plus.com/
 
K

kurttrail

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

You really don't understand, do you? SCO is claiming that Linux uses
its IP and it claims that all linux users need to pay them, that all
linux distributions are derived from SCO's IP and that they have to
pay for a license. IOW any OS that is based upon Unix has elements of
SCO owned code and that you thus need to license that OS from SCO.
Meanwhile Sun continues to increase it's ownership in SCO. Hum, wonder
what this all means.

It means, just like SCO, you play fast and loose with the facts.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.kurttrail.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
T

The Green Troll

Testy said:
If you don't like MS that is your choice I don't really care! No more than I
care what your sexual preference may be.

To think I wasted the best years of my life for apathy! All this time,
I thought you shared my feelings. I'll find myself someone who cares.
See if you can get love from that damned computer!

-- Taking Back My Life
 
W

WSZsr

And an informed user would use common sense and never have to worry about
viruses, etc - even with a windows PC.
 

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