Important: Windows XP support ends April 2014


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Microsoft Windows XP

Windows XP is Retiring

After 12 years of support, technical assistance for Windows XP will
end on 8 April 2014. The end of Windows XP support will help us focus
resources on delivering you the best, most current PC experience.

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What this means for Windows XP users

The end of support means we will no longer deliver software updates.
These updates help keep your PC secure and working reliably. Without
them, your PC may become a target for harmful viruses, spyware and
other malicious software - causing loss of data and hindered
performance.

While your computer will work, your PC may cause you security and
support issues. We'd love to help you avoid that.

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BillW50

What this means for Windows XP users

The end of support means we will no longer deliver software updates.
These updates help keep your PC secure and working reliably. Without
them, your PC may become a target for harmful viruses, spyware and
other malicious software - causing loss of data and hindered
performance.

While your computer will work, your PC may cause you security and
support issues. We'd love to help you avoid that.

[Find out more about Windows XP end of support >]
http://email.microsoft.com/Key-13394302.D.J2qJ.C.KJ.YByLv

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To make sure that your PC is protected and doesn't cause you
potential frustration, upgrade to the latest version of Windows.

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If you believe that, I have some beach front property for you in
Arizona. ;-)
 
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BillW50 said:
What this means for Windows XP users
The end of support means we will no longer deliver software updates.
These updates help keep your PC secure and working reliably. Without
them, your PC may become a target for harmful viruses, spyware and
other malicious software - causing loss of data and hindered
performance.
While your computer will work, your PC may cause you security and
support issues. We'd love to help you avoid that.
[Find out more about Windows XP end of support >]
http://email.microsoft.com/Key-13394302.D.J2qJ.C.KJ.YByLv
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Upgrade options
To make sure that your PC is protected and doesn't cause you
potential frustration, upgrade to the latest version of Windows.
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If you believe that, I have some beach front property for you in Arizona. ;-)

Mr. Bill
The Gateway user

After they Stop Windows 9X updates

Hell Yes I a Believer

I do have
Lake front beach
Property in Arizona

Not all Seas and Oceans
Have Sandy beaches like Arizona
 
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philo 

Hell Yes I a Believer

I do have
Lake front beach
Property in Arizona

Not all Seas and Oceans
Have Sandy beaches like Arizona


I was kind of surprised when I found out at Arizona was one of the top
states for boating!
 
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casey.o

If you believe that, I have some beach front property for you in
Arizona. ;-)

I plan to upgrade as soon as MS makes an OS worth upgrading to....

On the other hand, I was told to upgrade from Win98se many years ago,
and I still use that OS more than any other, mainly because I like it
best. I'm still waiting for MS to make an upgrade to Win98se, but I
wont hold my breath. All they really needed to do was improve the USB
support and add some drivers for newer computers, but knowing MS, they'd
prefer to add lots of useless bloat instead. After all, isnt that all
they have added to XP to create Vista, Win7 and 8? Not to mention
continually changing the desktop to confuse people who used older OSs.

But then again, the desktop in XP was just the same as the desktop from
Windows 2000, with lots of bloat addeed, such as an animated dog picture
in the Search feature....

And from what I've seen of Windows 8, it looks like they resurrected the
desktop from Windows 3.x.

Ideally, I sure hope someone creates another OS for the PC computers.
Someone other than MS. Of course I know someome hollar "LINUX".
yea, it exists... but it requires a full time college degree in
computers to install it, and still has little to offer in software,
which is not compatible with the software made for Windows....

Maybe someday there will be another user friendly OS created that is
superior, but that may be years off.... Till then, we're stuck with MS
and their bloated OSs, which they stop supporting whenever they choose,
despite the fact that a lot of people still use and often prefer.
It seems that XP is still one of the most used of all OSs ever made.
 
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BillW50

I plan to upgrade as soon as MS makes an OS worth upgrading to....

Oh yeah... I totally get that! I think Microsoft goofed when they
created XP. I think they made it so good, why leave it?
On the other hand, I was told to upgrade from Win98se many years ago,
and I still use that OS more than any other, mainly because I like it
best. I'm still waiting for MS to make an upgrade to Win98se, but I
wont hold my breath. All they really needed to do was improve the USB
support and add some drivers for newer computers, but knowing MS, they'd
prefer to add lots of useless bloat instead. After all, isnt that all
they have added to XP to create Vista, Win7 and 8? Not to mention
continually changing the desktop to confuse people who used older OSs.

Yes indeed!
But then again, the desktop in XP was just the same as the desktop from
Windows 2000, with lots of bloat addeed, such as an animated dog picture
in the Search feature....
Totally!

And from what I've seen of Windows 8, it looks like they resurrected the
desktop from Windows 3.x.
LOL

Ideally, I sure hope someone creates another OS for the PC computers.
Someone other than MS. Of course I know someome hollar "LINUX".
yea, it exists... but it requires a full time college degree in
computers to install it, and still has little to offer in software,
which is not compatible with the software made for Windows....

Yeah I play with other OS when I don't have anything important to do.
Just so I get to know them well. But XP is still my favorite and it
still runs everything I want to run. I can't say that of other OS.
Maybe someday there will be another user friendly OS created that is
superior, but that may be years off.... Till then, we're stuck with MS
and their bloated OSs, which they stop supporting whenever they choose,
despite the fact that a lot of people still use and often prefer.
It seems that XP is still one of the most used of all OSs ever made.

Yeah many have tried and failed. Microsoft may have cut their own throat
with XP. They want XP users to upgrade and many of them isn't buying it.
Now they are trying to scare XP users by ending security updates. But
that isn't going to change anything really.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

I plan to upgrade as soon as MS makes an OS worth upgrading to....


Your choice entirely. We clearly disagree, but that's fine. I'm
replying just to make the points below.

On the other hand, I was told to upgrade from Win98se many years ago,
and I still use that OS more than any other, mainly because I like it
best. I'm still waiting for MS to make an upgrade to Win98se, but I
wont hold my breath. All they really needed to do was improve the USB
support and add some drivers for newer computers,


Drivers are provided by the hardware manufacturers, *not* by
Microsoft. If drivers you want aren't available, don't blame
Microsoft.

but knowing MS, they'd
prefer to add lots of useless bloat instead. After all, isnt that all
they have added to XP to create Vista, Win7 and 8? Not to mention
continually changing the desktop to confuse people who used older OSs.

But then again, the desktop in XP was just the same as the desktop from
Windows 2000, with lots of bloat addeed, such as an animated dog picture
in the Search feature....

And from what I've seen of Windows 8, it looks like they resurrected the
desktop from Windows 3.x.




Then you haven't seen enough of Windows 8. Let me point out something
that you perhaps don't realize: Windows 8 has two interfaces; the
Modern/Metro Interface (which may be all you've looked at) and the
traditional Desktop Interface. You can use either one or both.

That traditional Desktop Interface is almost identical to Windows 7's
interface; the biggest difference is that there is no Start Orb to
click to bring up the Start menu. But note that you can get the Start
Orb back by using one of several third-party programs, either free or
very inexpensive (Classic Shell at
http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ and Start8 at
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/; my personal preference is
Start8, but they are both very good). And going from one interface to
the other is very easy; there are several ways, but simply pressing
the Windows key is perhaps the easiest.

I use Windows 8, almost exclusively with the traditional desktop
interface, and with Start 8 installed. If you were to look at and use
my computer, you would have a hard time realizing that it's not
Windows 7.
 
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Jon Danniken

But then again, the desktop in XP was just the same as the desktop from
Windows 2000, with lots of bloat addeed, such as an animated dog picture
in the Search feature....

Win2k really was my favorite of all the MS OSs. I eventually got along
to live with XP, but only after I dumbed it down.

Jon
 
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BillW50

Win2k really was my favorite of all the MS OSs. I eventually got along
to live with XP, but only after I dumbed it down.

Windows 2000 was my favorite OS until XP SP2 came out, then I started to
switch. And yes, we used to call XP bloated and all. But it isn't
anything compared to 7 and 8.
 
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BillW50

I was kind of surprised when I found out at Arizona was one of the top
states for boating!

No way! I used to live there and there is nothing but sand there. The
only water mostly is from the Colorado River. And that isn't much either.
 
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Ken Blake said:
Your choice entirely. We clearly disagree, but that's fine. I'm
replying just to make the points below.

Drivers are provided by the hardware manufacturers, *not* by
Microsoft. If drivers you want aren't available, don't blame
Microsoft.

I like How HP manufacturers have send
Hardware updates in the Pass to
Microsoft windows updates webpage

It help to running the webpage updates
To get Some of the manufacturers updates
To get the Drive that was send to Microsoft
For for the time run out
Then you haven't seen enough of Windows 8. Let me point out something
that you perhaps don't realize: Windows 8 has two interfaces; the
Modern/Metro Interface (which may be all you've looked at) and the
traditional Desktop Interface. You can use either one or both.

That traditional Desktop Interface is almost identical to Windows 7's
interface; the biggest difference is that there is no Start Orb to
click to bring up the Start menu. But note that you can get the Start
Orb back by using one of several third-party programs, either free or
very inexpensive (Classic Shell at
http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ and Start8 at
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/; my personal preference is
Start8, but they are both very good). And going from one interface to
the other is very easy; there are several ways, but simply pressing
the Windows key is perhaps the easiest.

I use Windows 8, almost exclusively with the traditional desktop
interface, and with Start 8 installed. If you were to look at and use
my computer, you would have a hard time realizing that it's not
Windows 7.

Not for Old Computer

I have the Windows 7 Start kit
On a Notebook
Add the Software I needed

I do a Windows 8 Demo
It was a Good
But was like a Lexus to me

I believe I'll my go Mac
Before I go 8 Lynx's

For 9 be coming some
Looking foreword in Test it

But there Hope
maybe with 10

START < is the Key That Windows User Look For
If I have to go third-party programs
I'll will go Mac X just to have a START
 
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Bob Willard

On 3/2/2014 5:50 PM said:
Yeah many have tried and failed. Microsoft may have cut their own throat
with XP. They want XP users to upgrade and many of them isn't buying it.
Now they are trying to scare XP users by ending security updates. But
that isn't going to change anything really.

M$ *could* force the issue by surreptitiously letting loose
a destructive virus, based on a known security hole in XP.

Nah, M$ wouldn't do that, would they? :p
 
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philo 

Windows 2000 was my favorite OS until XP SP2 came out, then I started to
switch. And yes, we used to call XP bloated and all. But it isn't
anything compared to 7 and 8.



Though Win2k will run on a P-II and XP will run on a P-III

I'd hardly call Win7 bloated.

I've found that a P-4 (Northwood or better) with 1-2 gigs of RAM will
suffice for Win7

Of course I turn off visual effects.


Win 7 cannot be that bloated if it will work OK on a machine built more
than ten years ago.
 
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BillW50

Though Win2k will run on a P-II and XP will run on a P-III

I'd hardly call Win7 bloated.

I've found that a P-4 (Northwood or better) with 1-2 gigs of RAM will
suffice for Win7

Of course I turn off visual effects.

Win 7 cannot be that bloated if it will work OK on a machine built more
than ten years ago.

I take it you never installed Windows 7 on a EeePC with a 16GB SSD? Yeah
I bought the 16GB SSD just so I can install 7. It was really horrible.
If you just boot up and do nothing for 20 minutes to let it settle down,
the CPU use never dropped less than 50%. And this is just the OS
running. Just try and open up a browser or something, its click and
wait, click and wait. XP on the same machine flies. Opening up a browser
and it is instant. And Windows 2000 on the same machine is grease lightning!

I also experimented with Windows 7 on beefier machines, but they too had
single core CPUs. Better, but still sad. Still more CPU use at idle than
XP on the same machines and higher CPU temps too. Not even enough power
to enough play youtube videos. But XP on these same machines plays
youtube videos just fine.

You might have noticed that I am running Windows 7 on this dual core
machine. Yes now Windows 7 is running somewhat respectable. And it now
can run youtube videos too. So how can I get Windows 7 playing youtube
videos on a single core processor? Say on a Motion Computing LE1700 with
an Intel Centrino Core Solo U1400 @ 1.2 GHz? By the way, the same
machine with an Intel Centrino Core2 Duo L7400 @ 1.5 GHz, Windows 7
plays videos just fine.

I also have two Dell Latitude ST tablets. They came with Windows 7 Pro
and sports an Atom Z670 single core processor. These are one of the
slowest computers I have ever seen. But turning off Aero and disabling
all appearance features, it is barely tolerable and being drop dead
ugly. And it now can play some lower quality youtube videos. Have
Windows 8 installed on one of them and Windows 8 you can't disable Aero.
Apparently the Metro side requires Aero for some reason. I can't even
use gadgets on these machines either, as it brings that poor Atom down
to its knees.
 
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BillW50

M$ *could* force the issue by surreptitiously letting loose
a destructive virus, based on a known security hole in XP.

Nah, M$ wouldn't do that, would they? :p

Microsoft being evil? <eg>
 
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Bob Willard

No way! I used to live there and there is nothing but sand there. The
only water mostly is from the Colorado River. And that isn't much either.

An excerpt from Wiki:
Lake Powell, straddling the border between Utah and Arizona,
is the second largest man-made reservoir in the US,
storing 24,322,000 acre feet of water when full.

I'll grant that most of the water around Phoenix comes with
a twist-off cap. But still, ...
 
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Tim Slattery

BillW50 said:
No way! I used to live there and there is nothing but sand there. The
only water mostly is from the Colorado River. And that isn't much either.

Lake Mead is pretty big. Other lakes behind dams on the Colorado are
also pretty sizeable.
 

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