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Rod
Susan said:I do not know.
Susan
So, you asked them (by email I guess) if pricelessware.org would be
available for a new, moved site ? And they didn't give you an answer ? Did
they even reply ? Or what happened ?
Rod
Susan said:I do not know.
Susan
How about something Susan said in another post.....
PricelessWareList (in .org/net/com/whatever domain)
HTH
So, you asked them (by email I guess) if pricelessware.org would be
available for a new, moved site ? And they didn't give you an answer ? Did
they even reply ? Or what happened ?
Rod
I have kept out of this completely, but this exchange has to, for me,
sum up the whole bloody issue.
Susan - you were asked a question - now FFS, give an answer - or do
you crave attention so much you have to be asked 3 times ?
I suspect this issue will not move on until all concerned can behave
and discuss issues like adults.
(or am I just in a bad mood
I have kept out of this completely, but this exchange has to, for me,
sum up the whole bloody issue.
Susan - you were asked a question - now FFS, give an answer - or do
you crave attention so much you have to be asked 3 times ?
If you really want this issue to move forward, in what sense was your
one word reply helpful ?
This is not an attack on you particularly Susan - just another example
of childish behaviour - for those who have kids, will understand:
"Who did that ?"
"Wasn't me"
"Did you see who did it ?"
"Yes"
"Well who did it ?"
"Not me"
I suspect this issue will not move on until all concerned can behave
and discuss issues like adults.
(or am I just in a bad mood
Fanman_UK said:On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:15:30 -0400, Susan Bugher
<Removed all the rubbish.>
Which is why Susan, I have repeatedly suggested that an intermediary
is *needed*. You are obviously not going to contact the others to find
out if the existing name/domain will be available. Therefor in short,
as I said before - you are not attempting to meet the wishes of many
of the acf subscribers.
It's a pity you didn't *read* the "rubbish" before you went
into full spate.
Susan
I suggest you stop messing this group about. If you are not prepared
to ask about the name/domain personally, use an intermediary.
If existing name is definitely not available, then that will be the
time to discuss alternatives.
Yes, this was already suggested at least two times. For some mysterious
reasons the initiators of this don't seem to want (or to dare) to ask
this.
At least, I haven't seen them doing this. I think that founding a new
site, without knowing if the 'old' one is available, is not very
productive.
Fanman_UK said:If you are not prepared
to ask about the name/domain personally, use an intermediary.
If existing name is definitely not available, then that will be the
time to discuss alternatives.
I cannot blame Genna and SOS for sitting back on this one, I would do
the same in their position.
Men are not happy, they need women to be happy.
Women need children or pets to be happy, but they need men to feel safe.
*ProteanThread* said:*ROFLMAO*
R. L. said:Hi, Susan, did you find a place that is willing the host the
files yet? If so, don't worry about the domain name too much
anymore. It does not HAVE to be of the same address, or even
have Pricelessware in the address (but of course, it can be or
might as well be if there is a suitable one, for example, I
like the one you suggestion, Pricelesswarelist.org - it is
very clear that Pricelessware is a list of good freeware).
However, as long as the site clearly states that what the
contents are about (i.e., the best freeware selected by the
subscripter here each year), and say that the subscripters
here refer it as Pricelessware, that should do the trick. And
don't even worry about people won't be able to find it. It
would certain come up in a few months if you submit it to
Google. (BTW, one trick to make it quickly appear when people
search for it is to have Pricelessware as part of the file
names of the pages you have).
In the future, if it happens that there are other sites also
devoted to the Pricelessware information, it could be a web-
ring or mirror of some sort for the information (you know,
just like more than one channels can report the result of any
elections). But I won't worry about it for now.
Eventually, if Genna or SOS come up with something they would
do with their site or whatever, I am sure they would tell us
if they want to.
So, don't worry about it, just go ahead. As far as there is a
site, and you are happy about it Yet, anyhow, if you are
not the domain owner for whatever domain would be, you might
still have some restrictions in access, but hope that it won't
be the issue for you.
Roger Johansson said:Genna is reading what is happening here, and so far she has not made
any attempt to solve the problems which is really working.
There is no need for any email questions to her, by anybody, as this
situation is a question in itself.
I didn't blame Genna from the beginning, but now I am beginning to see
why she is difficult to work with.
She jumped in and started to argue about who was right and wrong in
the past immediately when Susan came back, which was very bad timing.
Genna has been confrontative and argumentative when she could have
been supportive and understanding. That is the problem.
She demands a certain kind of mindset instead of accepting a more
human approach. Genna can only work with people who have very thick
skin on their noses, not with people who are not tough enough
according to her standards.
At the bottom of this is a cultural problem. Genna stands for the
culture which demands that you must be able to take a punch and give a
punch, and you must be able to stand up for yourself in a certain way.
She can help/force Susan get tougher, but she cannot cooperate with
her as long as she is like Susan is and wants to continue to be.
This is a very common problem everywhere in our society.
People who are very tough are very eager to help/force others to
become tougher, but refuse to cooperate with people who are not up to
their own standards of toughness.
The whole society, and especially the media channels, is a big boot
camp with constant training in violence and concentration, to force
everybody to become very tough and confrontational.
Bob Marley: Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights..
Jeopardy: Learn to think twice..
Police series and trauma surgery programs: Learn to live with extreme
levels of violence and high concentration.
People like Genna can stand up for themselves, but they are not really
happy and do not have the inspiration to do a job like Susan can.
Men are not happy, they need women to be happy.
Women need children or pets to be happy, but they need men to feel
safe. We all need somebody who is nicer and more like children to be
happy, but we make these children older and tougher as we socialize
with them.
We are all stretched between two poles in our lives. We need to become
tougher to feel strong and fit into a tough world, but we need to
relax and become open like children to feel well with ourselves.
We should learn to cooperate with softer and nicer people without
forcing them to become tougher and stronger.
I take it you own an asbestos jacket
<RANT>
I'm handicapped by early training in legal matters (training that took
place quite literally at my father's knee).
I was taught that private means *private* - you do not communicate
*anything* about private communications - you should not even tell
people that there has been private communication.
I'm having difficulty in adapting to Usenet. . .
"Go and have a private discussion - then come back and tell us all about
it."
"Don't disclose email correspondence." Disclosing the facts is a breach
of privacy. Just give us your "interpretation". *Only* hearsay evidence
is allowed in Kangaroo Courts.
</RANT>
If you weren't in a bad mood before I rather hope you are now. . .
Bjorn said:Easy if you understand/remember what "acf" and "ware" stands for
in this context ...
I guess the shorthand "acf" is something only the regulars understand,
or anyone familier with Usenet and who understands that in the given
context "acf" is an abbreviation for a group name ...
how about:
alt-comp-freeware-list.org
best-of-alt-comp-freeware.org
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