How come you didn't answer my question?
I did answer it, with another question, that kind of implied an answer. But
to give you some peace of mind, and make it easier to understand my
previous answer, here's the simple version: yes, I would want that /all/
accused get fair, lawful and equal treatment. That does not always mean
that they get "released into [my] local community". What it exactly means
you can look up in any number of relevant papers -- it definitely does not
mean to remain locked up, by the military, without formal charges, without
contact to a lawyer of choice, yada yada yada. But if it means that they
get released to my community, then that's ok with me, too. If it wasn't, I
would feel that I should work to get the laws changed -- rather than
propose that the government arbitrarily can decide when to apply the laws
and when not.
I can accept that answer - thanks for providing it.
Probably there are quite a few detainees that did not participate in any
group activity -- unless you feel that living in a country constitutes as
"group activity".
My belief is that after the first month, at the most, they had weeded
out the ones that were caught up without justification. Based on my
talks with people I won't identify, a number of people were released
early, but you don't hear about that from AI or CNN. I suspect that the
remainder are there for valid reasons. I have no reason to believe they
are not there for valid reasons.
With the attitude you are presenting, that really doesn't surprise me. You
probably thought they should all be locked up somewhere, for participating
in a "group activity"
And, understandably, they didn't like that
thought.
I don't believe that the children/wife of a terrorist is exactly
innocent when they are aware of what the terrorist is doing. I believe
that you don't have to pull the trigger to be guilty, only assist in any
number of ways - even providing food/shelter is aid to the enemy and
should be dealt with strongly/swiftly.
Hear hear! The benefit of doubt for a government. That's a lot of
ingenuity. A government is only as good as its control by the people. I'm
grateful that not all are so lenient with their duty as "people" than you,
and that there are at least some left to help this government along a bit.
If I disagreed with my government I might not give them the benefit of
what I believe is the correct action. When I was in the service I left
when Clinton was elected, I didn't believe in the man or his mission,
and it proved correct to me. With what's been happening around the world
for the last 20 years, with what's been happening in the world in the
last 5 years, with all that is going on currently, I believe we are
doing the right thing, even if it's not sitting well with all the
bleeding heart types and the tin-hatters.
Until, of course, someone in that then completely uncontrolled government
gets the idea that /you/ may have been part in some "group activity"...
But, as you could have learned from Kurt's story, by then it might be too
late, for you at least.
I'm part of a number of "groups" and I believe that if those groups were
considered radical or terrorist in nature, that I would stop being part
of them or turn in the leaders of the groups that caused them to be a
threat to the government - as I don't believe our government is a threat
or going after the wrong people. Now, if the government was picking up
people because they reached the age of 30 and decided to terminate them,
well, I would strongly oppose the action to my fullest ability.
Based on where I've been in the world, what I've seen, what I still get
intel on, I believe in our prior and current mission.
The other, loosely related question here, is of course whether you want to
fight terrorism or just get that good feeling of "bringing them on".
I want to fight the people that want all innocent Americans dead just
because they are Americans - no other reason.
There's a reason for the US being that target it is. One of them is that
pretty much all US governments, during the last 50 years, have supported
pretty much every fascist movement there was, against pretty much all
movements by their repressed people to get some rights.
Ask one of the terrorists whey they "hate" Americans - you won't find
that as a reason in the top 10 they list.
And continue to do
so -- or how would you classify the Saudi government, for example? I'm
pretty sure that no US government would have supported the Revolution, if
it had existed at that time
I've been to their embassy, talked with several members of the royal
family, never saw anything wrong with their business practices as
related to what I was involved with. At the same time, I've learned a
few things about their own tribal groups and what they sponsor and
disagree with many of the tribal groups beliefs, strongly. There are
some changes that are taking place you may not be aware of, but, there
are politics involved so it's not likely to come out as perfectly as we
would want.
