Windows XP Issue (Activation) II

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It's not impossible. It was just a guess. Put it this way a whole bunch.
At an average of a hundred a year (last few years way more) for 15 years
would be 1500 PC's.

My company produces 80% of what's in your home.

You believe what you want to believe. I don't care. I know what's in my
bank account and what I have in stock options.

Anyhow I don't attack anyone for no reason. I'm just defending myself.
 
daygo140 said:
The PSU went. Capacitor blew and due to unstable voltages produced while it
was failing, took out the integrated video card. The PC then wouldn't boot
only but once every twenty or so tries. I tried everything, finally I used
a cheapo test video card and it booted successfully. Bought a new the video
card particularlly one which when installed the system couldn't boot.
Ironically there was a BIOS update on the mobo manufacturers web site that
specifically "fixed system can't boot with that video card installed" among
other things which were beneficial. Among the fact that eMachines doesn't
provide any BIOS let alone the latest one that the mobo manufacturer had to
fix the issue.


Under those circumstances, I'd have replaced the entire motherboard. I
don't know that you can be entirely sure that the damage was limited to
the on-board video adapter. You may see some future problems stemming
from that power supply failure.

(And, if you obtain the replacement motherboard from eMachines, you
should once again be able to use the eMachines OEM license, removing one
more worry.)


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kurttrail said:
Are you done yet? I've had this arguement many times before, and I
always win it.



Actually, that not quite true. However, if you were to replace the
word "always" with the word "never," the sentence would be correct.


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OK, one last time for the slow...
It is theft because he violated the EULA which says in essance that you will
only install it on 1 (One) computer. Still with me? This copy of XP is
installed on his AND his mother's computers, last time I looked that would be
2 (Two). He would be OK if he either had used his mom's CD Key, which she
paid for and owns, but he didn't. Or if he had uninstalled XP from his own
machine, which he made clear he did not do. If he had done either of these
two things then there would have been no theft, no EULA violation, and no big
deal. But he didn't and that's where the theft comes in to it.
This really is very simple, daygo screwed up his mom's PC when he flashed
the BIOS, which any one of us might have done. But when the error presented
itself he should have gone back to the stable set up and looked for a video
driver that would work with the new video card instead of destroying his
mom's ability to use her bought and paid for license on her recovery CD. He
biffed it and now he's pissed because others have told him so.
Make no mistake, I do not agree with this current practice of only providing
a recovery CD and not the actual software. I think it is a major pain in the
butt and I can't tell you how many times I have had to tell someone the bad
news because they have formatted their hard drive and lost their recovery
partition, or flashed their BIOS like daygo did here and lost there ability
to reinstall. Alot of time you can reinstall from a regular Windows CD and
use the original number, no harm no foul. But not always, and it sucks! I
think Bill and the boys have enough money already, they don't need tp be
using these underhanded tactics to make more. But that does not change the
facts, and the facts that daygo screwed up by installing XP twice. It may not
be fair, but that's the way it is and we have to play by the rules or suffer
the consequences. I choose to play by the rules, you do what you want. But
proclaiming software piracy on the manufacturers own web site seems a bit
fool hardy to me.

As an after note; I don't need you to beleive if I speed or not Kurt.
Doesn't bother me at all if you don't, beleive what you you wish. However, I
did not say I never have I simply said I don't. Major difference there.
 
Under those circumstances, I'd have replaced the entire motherboard. I
don't know that you can be entirely sure that the damage was limited to
the on-board video adapter. You may see some future problems stemming
from that power supply failure.

I agree, most of the time when a bad PSU takes out anything on the
motherboard there are always going to be other stability problems.
(And, if you obtain the replacement motherboard from eMachines, you
should once again be able to use the eMachines OEM license, removing one
more worry.)

Yep, and they sell replacement parts if they are in stock and he also had
the option of calling MS to see if what he wanted to do was going to be a
problem, but he didn't do that either. His actions were out of convenience
and ease without regard for his Mothers licensing or stability. Good
systems techs pride themselves on stability and honesty to the job and
customers above all else.
 
I did not say his logic was flawed, simply that he took the wrong path. He
should have restored the original BIOS and looked for a suitable video driver
instead of invalidating the OEM license. The major problem here is not what
the OP did but the computer he had to do it to. We've all had similar
problems pop up, nut the answers have to be considered before you act on
them. Don't you think?
 
Terry said:
On 1/31/2005 2:05 PM On a whim, Leythos pounded out on the keyboard


And like it or not, he did what any other person with a penny's worth of
sense would have done. Short sighted you call him? Kudos to him I say,
he got the computer working again! And he got the answers he needed,
without any of your mindless dribble.
If that's your view Terry, then why keep going on with this eh? Go back to
Yahoo Chat.
 
Bruce said:
Actually, that not quite true. However, if you were to replace the
word "always" with the word "never," the sentence would be correct.

Always Brucey. Your claim to the contrary is meaningless. I never
leave these EULA thread without getting the last word.

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And yet you still f*k*d up your mom's e-machine. Wow. Maybe your Fortune 500
company needs to rethink it's IT department.
 
Bruce said:
Under those circumstances, I'd have replaced the entire motherboard. I
don't know that you can be entirely sure that the damage was
limited to the on-board video adapter. You may see some future
problems stemming from that power supply failure.

I agree with you here. There is a very good chance that the MOBO will
fail again. But as a temporary fix, I'd have done what he did, to get
my family member's computer up and running again.
(And, if you obtain the replacement motherboard from eMachines, you
should once again be able to use the eMachines OEM license, removing
one more worry.)

I believe he already mentioned that the computer was already out of
warranty, so eMachines won't replace the MOBO.

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Tom said:
ROFL...you are really the expert!!!

You can only get by with name calling...

You are a joke!

You actually do take after your mother!


ROFL!

And you know his mother?

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Gord said:
One would think that with all that schooling and expertise you should
have learned a bit of grammar along the way.

Grammar-laming. Ain't you just hot sh*t, NOT!

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Good, that's all you needed? Well you have your answers by now I think. Crawl
back into you imaginary fortune 500 hole and go to Yahoo next time. Amature
wanker.
 
Michael said:
OK, one last time for the slow...
It is theft because he violated the EULA which says in essance that
you will only install it on 1 (One) computer. Still with me?

Nope! Show me the law that says that breaking a contract is a THEFT.
This
copy of XP is installed on his AND his mother's computers, last time
I looked that would be 2 (Two). He would be OK if he either had used
his mom's CD Key, which she paid for and owns, but he didn't. Or if
he had uninstalled XP from his own machine, which he made clear he
did not do. If he had done either of these two things then there
would have been no theft, no EULA violation, and no big deal. But he
didn't and that's where the theft comes in to it.
This really is very simple, daygo screwed up his mom's PC when he
flashed the BIOS, which any one of us might have done. But when the
error presented itself he should have gone back to the stable set up
and looked for a video driver that would work with the new video card
instead of destroying his mom's ability to use her bought and paid
for license on her recovery CD. He biffed it and now he's pissed
because others have told him so.
Make no mistake, I do not agree with this current practice of only
providing a recovery CD and not the actual software. I think it is a
major pain in the butt and I can't tell you how many times I have had
to tell someone the bad news because they have formatted their hard
drive and lost their recovery partition, or flashed their BIOS like
daygo did here and lost there ability to reinstall. Alot of time you
can reinstall from a regular Windows CD and use the original number,
no harm no foul. But not always, and it sucks! I think Bill and the
boys have enough money already, they don't need tp be using these
underhanded tactics to make more. But that does not change the facts,
and the facts that daygo screwed up by installing XP twice. It may
not be fair, but that's the way it is and we have to play by the
rules or suffer the consequences. I choose to play by the rules, you
do what you want. But proclaiming software piracy on the
manufacturers own web site seems a bit fool hardy to me.

Blah, Blah, Blah. Theft, Piracy. This is nothing but FUD. MS and it's
minions might claim it is a theft or piracy, but show me the law that
makes it such!
As an after note; I don't need you to beleive if I speed or not Kurt.
Doesn't bother me at all if you don't, beleive what you you wish.
However, I did not say I never have I simply said I don't. Major
difference there.


I don't believe you don't. Nobody does 25, and doesn't go over from
time to time. Totally unrealistic.

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The PSU went. Capacitor blew and due to unstable voltages produced while it
was failing, took out the integrated video card. The PC then wouldn't boot
only but once every twenty or so tries. I tried everything, finally I used
a cheapo test video card and it booted successfully. Bought a new the video
card particularlly one which when installed the system couldn't boot.
Ironically there was a BIOS update on the mobo manufacturers web site that
specifically "fixed system can't boot with that video card installed" among
other things which were beneficial. Among the fact that eMachines doesn't
provide any BIOS let alone the latest one that the mobo manufacturer had to
fix the issue.



Under those circumstances, I'd have replaced the entire motherboard. I
don't know that you can be entirely sure that the damage was limited to
the on-board video adapter. You may see some future problems stemming
from that power supply failure.

(And, if you obtain the replacement motherboard from eMachines, you
should once again be able to use the eMachines OEM license, removing one
more worry.)
[/QUOTE]

Not counting RAM. Had that happen before.


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On 1/31/2005 7:07 PM On a whim, Leythos pounded out on the keyboard
I agree, most of the time when a bad PSU takes out anything on the
motherboard there are always going to be other stability problems.




Yep, and they sell replacement parts if they are in stock and he also had
the option of calling MS to see if what he wanted to do was going to be a
problem, but he didn't do that either. His actions were out of convenience
and ease without regard for his Mothers licensing or stability. Good
systems techs pride themselves on stability and honesty to the job and
customers above all else.

OH PLEEEEESE, find reality! "calling MS"- sure after the PS blows you'll
call MS? "out of convenience"- No, to get his mother back up and
running. "Good systems techs..." Wake up! We do the best we can in the
least amount of time. I don't believe you even handle IT issues...

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On 1/31/2005 7:13 PM On a whim, Michael pounded out on the keyboard
I did not say his logic was flawed, simply that he took the wrong path. He
should have restored the original BIOS and looked for a suitable video driver
instead of invalidating the OEM license. The major problem here is not what
the OP did but the computer he had to do it to. We've all had similar
problems pop up, nut the answers have to be considered before you act on
them. Don't you think?

:

Restored the BIOS and video driver? For a chip that's fried? You can
blast him for what he did all you want. I think he did what anyone in
this group would have done given the same circumstances, regardless of
anyones arguments. I'm done...

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On 1/31/2005 2:05 PM On a whim, Leythos pounded out on the keyboard



And like it or not, he did what any other person with a penny's worth of
sense would have done. Short sighted you call him? Kudos to him I say,
he got the computer working again! And he got the answers he needed,
without any of your mindless dribble.

If that's your view Terry, then why keep going on with this eh? Go back to
Yahoo Chat.

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Because people like you Michael have no clue as to what his issue was.
You're getting on a soapbox and no one is listening. And I'm glad he got
his mother back up and running. I would have done the same thing. So you
can throw your little accusations at me also. Doesn't change anything.


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On 1/31/2005 7:23 PM On a whim, Michael pounded out on the keyboard
Good, that's all you needed? Well you have your answers by now I think. Crawl
back into you imaginary fortune 500 hole and go to Yahoo next time. Amature
wanker.

:

Wow, you're really good at tech support, Michael! And what's your deal
with Yahoo? Never been there personally, but it appears you must.

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