Windows XP Issue (Activation) II

[Bruce Chambers]

I agree with you here.

Did that hurt you to type? ;-}

I believe he already mentioned that the computer was already out of
warranty, so eMachines won't replace the MOBO.

Even if the machine is out of warranty, he still should be able to
purchase a replacement motherboard from eMachines.


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[kurttrail]

Did that hurt you to type? ;-}

LOL! Yes it did! ;-)

Even if the machine is out of warranty, he still should be able to
purchase a replacement motherboard from eMachines.

And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from an
OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard [which
would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM copy of
XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to do in
the mean time, do without using a computer?

So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary fix,
I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up and
running again."

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[Guest]

I will not waste any more breath on one who seem so intent on proving his
stupidity. Please continue as you are, brainless and unaware.

 

[Guest]

Until now Terry I had assumed you could actually read. Please continue to
live in your own narrow brainless world...

 

[Guest]

Grow up daygo and let it die.

I don't have to prove nothing to anyone here. I must not be that bad with
all the people that consitantly consult with me to fix their PC. Everyone
of them has came back and referred their acquaintances to me.

As far as my grammar...I didn't know I was handing in this thread for
grading. Knit-picker.

 

[Plato]

I don't go to church and I don't need or want MVP status. You failed to

Try a baptist church. Mad fun.

 

[Kelly]

Missed this part!

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[kurttrail]

I will not waste any more breath on one who seem so intent on proving
his stupidity. Please continue as you are, brainless and unaware.

In other words, you can't back up your claims that it is a theft with
legal precedent or a law, so now you are gonna run away!

Theft is a criminal offence, at most breaking a EULA for a product you
legally purchased is a matter for the civil courts. When you are smart
enough to understand the difference, give me a call.

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[Kelly]

Hi Kurt,

How it the weather there? Has been raining here for two days. No
complaints, love the rain. )

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[kurttrail]

Hi Kurt,

How it the weather there? Has been raining here for two days. No
complaints, love the rain. )

Beautiful. Mid 70s to the uppers 50s, but it looks like I'll be getting
some of that rain later this week.

I used to love the rain too, but then I hiked in rain when the temp was
below freezing, so I've learned to not like it so much in those
situations.

Is it Mardi Gras time already? Gee how time flies!

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[Leythos]

OH PLEEEEESE, find reality! "calling MS"- sure after the PS blows you'll
call MS? "out of convenience"- No, to get his mother back up and
running. "Good systems techs..." Wake up! We do the best we can in the
least amount of time. I don't believe you even handle IT issues...

Are you really a troll or just so stupid that you think anyone would need
to call MS after a PSU dies - you know damn well that he could have called
MS when the activation was required, and it's highly likely that they
would have told him it was OK to install it, but he took the easy way out
and violated the EULA.

Now, come on back with another diversion instead of asking why he didn't
call MS to ask if what he was doing was permitted instead of asking in
this group.

 

[Leythos]

Restored the BIOS and video driver? For a chip that's fried? You can
blast him for what he did all you want. I think he did what anyone in
this group would have done given the same circumstances, regardless of
anyones arguments. I'm done...

Look chap, he already had a working solution BEFORE he changed the BIOS
and invalidated the installation - re-read the OP's posts - he said he
installed a card that worked without the change, didn't want to use that
card, switched to a second video card, but that video card didn't work
with out an unauthorized BIOS update. You were done before you started,
you didn't want to understand, just trolling.

 

[Leythos]

And I'm glad he got
his mother back up and running. I would have done the same thing. So you
can throw your little accusations at me also. Doesn't change anything.

His mothers system was up and running BEFORE HE decided to change the BIOS
which invalidated the license/activation - you might want to read the OP's
statements before you start spouting off.

 

[Leythos]

And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from an
OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard [which
would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM copy of
XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to do in
the mean time, do without using a computer?

So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary fix,
I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up and
running again."

Kurt, I've had to repair many OEM systems, and when I could not get the
parts quickly from the OEM the machine just sat and waited or I provided a
loaner for them to use. In addition, he could have put in a functional
motherboard, could have found another card (like the first one) that
worked (since he said the first card worked) or he could have done what he
did and then called MS to explain what he was doing and get it activated
for his Mom's machine - he decided to not try any of those paths.

 

[Guest]

Exactly!

Look chap, he already had a working solution BEFORE he changed the BIOS
and invalidated the installation - re-read the OP's posts - he said he
installed a card that worked without the change, didn't want to use that
card, switched to a second video card, but that video card didn't work
with out an unauthorized BIOS update. You were done before you started,
you didn't want to understand, just trolling.

 

[Guest]

Hey Leythos, nevermind trying to reason with Kurt, he is simpleminded
troglodite that beleives that MS is the evil in the world and that he is an
avenging angel sent to save us all. Nevermind if he may actuall be wrong in
his beleifs of product activation, people like him are the reason for product
activation. Eventually his position will bite him in the bum, but he still
will not learn. One look at his web page explains why he won't listen. I
think they call folks like this woo-hoos.

And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from an
OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard [which
would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM copy of
XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to do in
the mean time, do without using a computer?

So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary fix,
I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up and
running again."

Kurt, I've had to repair many OEM systems, and when I could not get the
parts quickly from the OEM the machine just sat and waited or I provided a
loaner for them to use. In addition, he could have put in a functional
motherboard, could have found another card (like the first one) that
worked (since he said the first card worked) or he could have done what he
did and then called MS to explain what he was doing and get it activated
for his Mom's machine - he decided to not try any of those paths.

 

[Guest]

I'm glad he got his mom back up and running too, since it was he that caused
the problem, (post on-board video failure.) But the fact remains that he went
down the wrong road to do it. All I'm saying is that according to the EULA,
what he did is a violation. Go ahead, read the stupid thing, one key per
machine. It's the one thing MS beats into you at any OEM system builder
conference, one license per key, one key per machine. The theft of
intellectual property bit is real, read the papers some time. MS went after
folks in California and they lost their OEM status, paid big fines. I don't
remeber anything about jail, but I know there was talk of it.
The only "soap box" I'm on is an effort to keep this industry honest. There
are plenty of folks out there looking for a fast buck that see this industry
as the perfect ticket. That costs me money and I don't like it. That's all.

If that's your view Terry, then why keep going on with this eh? Go back to
Yahoo Chat.

Because people like you Michael have no clue as to what his issue was.
You're getting on a soapbox and no one is listening. And I'm glad he got
his mother back up and running. I would have done the same thing. So you
can throw your little accusations at me also. Doesn't change anything.


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[Alias]

| Hey Leythos, nevermind trying to reason with Kurt, he is simpleminded
| troglodite that beleives that MS is the evil in the world and that he is
an
| avenging angel sent to save us all. Nevermind if he may actuall be wrong
in
| his beleifs of product activation, people like him are the reason for
product
| activation. Eventually his position will bite him in the bum, but he still
| will not learn. One look at his web page explains why he won't listen. I
| think they call folks like this woo-hoos.

Nothing like hurling ad hominem attacks instead of addressing the issues to
make you feel like a real man, right Michael?
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|
| "Leythos" wrote:
|
| > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:13:02 -0500, kurttrail wrote:
| >
| > > And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from an
| > > OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard [which
| > > would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM copy
of
| > > XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to do in
| > > the mean time, do without using a computer?
| > >
| > > So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary fix,
| > > I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up and
| > > running again."
| >
| > Kurt, I've had to repair many OEM systems, and when I could not get the
| > parts quickly from the OEM the machine just sat and waited or I provided
a
| > loaner for them to use. In addition, he could have put in a functional
| > motherboard, could have found another card (like the first one) that
| > worked (since he said the first card worked) or he could have done what
he
| > did and then called MS to explain what he was doing and get it activated
| > for his Mom's machine - he decided to not try any of those paths.
| >
| > --
| > (e-mail address removed)
| > remove 999 in order to email me
| >
| >

 

[kurttrail]

And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from an
OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard [which
would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM copy
of XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to
do in the mean time, do without using a computer?

So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary fix,
I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up and
running again."

Kurt, I've had to repair many OEM systems, and when I could not get
the parts quickly from the OEM the machine just sat and waited or I
provided a loaner for them to use. In addition, he could have put in
a functional motherboard, could have found another card (like the
first one) that worked (since he said the first card worked) or he
could have done what he did and then called MS to explain what he was
doing and get it activated for his Mom's machine - he decided to not
try any of those paths.

LOL! Could they have sent the parts so the computer was up and running
the next day? What Bullsh*t!

You would had your mom wait for parts, before you got her machine up and
running again! You don't like your mom, do you?

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[kurttrail]

Hey Leythos, nevermind trying to reason with Kurt, he is simpleminded
troglodite that beleives that MS is the evil in the world and that he
is an avenging angel sent to save us all. Nevermind if he may actuall
be wrong in his beleifs of product activation, people like him are
the reason for product activation. Eventually his position will bite
him in the bum, but he still will not learn. One look at his web page
explains why he won't listen. I think they call folks like this
woo-hoos.

ROFL! I love that you can't argue against my opinions, so you just
attack me and my web page!

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