Windows XP Issue (Activation) II

[kurttrail]

I'm glad he got his mom back up and running too, since it was he that
caused the problem, (post on-board video failure.) But the fact
remains that he went down the wrong road to do it. All I'm saying is
that according to the EULA, what he did is a violation. Go ahead,
read the stupid thing, one key per machine. It's the one thing MS
beats into you at any OEM system builder conference, one license per
key, one key per machine. The theft of intellectual property bit is
real, read the papers some time. MS went after folks in California
and they lost their OEM status, paid big fines. I don't remeber
anything about jail, but I know there was talk of it.
The only "soap box" I'm on is an effort to keep this industry honest.
There are plenty of folks out there looking for a fast buck that see
this industry as the perfect ticket. That costs me money and I don't
like it. That's all.

How did he cause on board video to stop working. He only started
working on the computer after it took a dive!



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[Alias]

| Michael wrote:
| > Hey Leythos, nevermind trying to reason with Kurt, he is simpleminded
| > troglodite that beleives that MS is the evil in the world and that he
| > is an avenging angel sent to save us all. Nevermind if he may actuall
| > be wrong in his beleifs of product activation, people like him are
| > the reason for product activation. Eventually his position will bite
| > him in the bum, but he still will not learn. One look at his web page
| > explains why he won't listen. I think they call folks like this
| > woo-hoos.
| >
|
| ROFL! I love that you can't argue against my opinions, so you just
| attack me and my web page!
|
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It's a very amateur debate technique called "personal ad hominem attacks".

 

[kurttrail]

Look chap, he already had a working solution BEFORE he changed the
BIOS and invalidated the installation - re-read the OP's posts - he
said he installed a card that worked without the change, didn't want
to use that card, switched to a second video card, but that video
card didn't work with out an unauthorized BIOS update. You were done
before you started, you didn't want to understand, just trolling.

He said he could use that card, it was from another system, and the only
video card he had was the one he was planning to use for his brothers
system.

He got his mom's computer up and running, and you would have made your
mom wait for parts! What a schmuck! How long was she in labor with
you?

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[Leythos]

He got his mom's computer up and running, and you would have made your
mom wait for parts! What a schmuck! How long was she in labor with
you?

Yep, based on my ethics I would have made anyone wait to fix their machine
properly and without putting them at risk by violating the EULA.

Nice to see your personal attack and comments about mothers when you don't
have a valid point to argue - spoken like a true Usenet Troll.

 

[Alias]

|
| He got his mom's computer up and running, and you would have made your
| mom wait for parts! What a schmuck! How long was she in labor with
| you?
|
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She still is?

 

[kurttrail]

It's a very amateur debate technique called "personal ad hominem
attacks".

I have my own name for those that use them, Chickensh*ts!

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[kurttrail]

Yep, based on my ethics I would have made anyone wait to fix their
machine properly and without putting them at risk by violating the
EULA.

The mother didn't violate the EULA.

Nice to see your personal attack and comments about mothers when you
don't have a valid point to argue - spoken like a true Usenet Troll.

It wasn't an attack, it's my opinion. Anyone would be a schmuck that
would make their mom wait for partsto use her computer, when they had
the means to get it up and running immediately.

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[kurttrail]

She still is?

ROFL!

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[Guest]

Read the whole post mate, we started by explaining reality which this guy
Kurt ignores. After 4 or 5 attempts and him just being obstinant you get a
bit tired of it. So before you go getting all sactimonius <sp> on us take a
peek at the facts at hand.

 

[Guest]

Not that I can't argue your opinions mate, I just don't enjoy having a battle
of wits with an unarmed person. Crawl back in the cave troll boy.

 

[Guest]

That is what I said.

How did he cause on board video to stop working. He only started
working on the computer after it took a dive!



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[Alias]

| Read the whole post mate, we started by explaining reality which this guy
| Kurt ignores. After 4 or 5 attempts and him just being obstinant you get a
| bit tired of it. So before you go getting all sactimonius <sp> on us take
a
| peek at the facts at hand.

I read the whole thread. I agree with Kurtis and your ad hominem attacks
only make you look stupid, mate.
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|
| "Alias" wrote:
|
| >
| >
| > | Hey Leythos, nevermind trying to reason with Kurt, he is simpleminded
| > | troglodite that beleives that MS is the evil in the world and that he
is
| > an
| > | avenging angel sent to save us all. Nevermind if he may actuall be
wrong
| > in
| > | his beleifs of product activation, people like him are the reason for
| > product
| > | activation. Eventually his position will bite him in the bum, but he
still
| > | will not learn. One look at his web page explains why he won't listen.
I
| > | think they call folks like this woo-hoos.
| >
| > Nothing like hurling ad hominem attacks instead of addressing the issues
to
| > make you feel like a real man, right Michael?
| > --
| > Alias
| >
| > Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
| > Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
| >
| > |
| > | "Leythos" wrote:
| > |
| > | > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:13:02 -0500, kurttrail wrote:
| > | >
| > | > > And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from
an
| > | > > OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard
[which
| > | > > would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM
copy
| > of
| > | > > XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to do
in
| > | > > the mean time, do without using a computer?
| > | > >
| > | > > So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary
fix,
| > | > > I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up
and
| > | > > running again."
| > | >
| > | > Kurt, I've had to repair many OEM systems, and when I could not get
the
| > | > parts quickly from the OEM the machine just sat and waited or I
provided
| > a
| > | > loaner for them to use. In addition, he could have put in a
functional
| > | > motherboard, could have found another card (like the first one) that
| > | > worked (since he said the first card worked) or he could have done
what
| > he
| > | > did and then called MS to explain what he was doing and get it
activated
| > | > for his Mom's machine - he decided to not try any of those paths.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > (e-mail address removed)
| > | > remove 999 in order to email me
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[kurttrail]

Not that I can't argue your opinions mate,

You haven't yet.

I just don't enjoy having
a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Yeah, you can only argue with other half-wits like yourself!

Crawl back in the cave troll
boy.

LOL! Like I'm gonna listen to the likes of you!

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[kurttrail]

That is what I said.

He caused what problem? His moms computer is running. And there is no
problem after he got it up and running. He just asked questions about
if his computer could be disabled by MS, which it can't, and whether he
can get in any trouble, which is about as likely to happen as winning
$750,000,000 in the lottery.

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[Bruce Chambers]

Nothing like hurling ad hominem attacks instead of addressing the issues to
make you feel like a real man, right Michael?

Was "Ad hominem" something you found on a "Word of the Day" calendar?
I don't think you were really intended to use it every single day (or
nearly so) after having learned it. Now, you should also learn the
phrase's meaning, as Michael's simple statement of his (and of many
others, myself included) observation of Kurttrail's repeatedly
demonstrated behavior hardly qualifies.


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[kurttrail]

Was "Ad hominem" something you found on a "Word of the Day" calendar?
I don't think you were really intended to use it every single day (or
nearly so) after having learned it. Now, you should also learn the
phrase's meaning, as Michael's simple statement of his (and of many
others, myself included) observation of Kurttrail's repeatedly
demonstrated behavior hardly qualifies.

LOL! I just love it when people talk about me instead of my opinions.
It goes to show how valid my opinion really is.

If I were just some "simpleminded troglodite," no discussion of me would
be necessary, but since I make a lot of sense, people go out of their
way to bash me, as they can't bash my opinions.

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[Alias]

| Alias wrote:
|
| >
| > Nothing like hurling ad hominem attacks instead of addressing the issues
to
| > make you feel like a real man, right Michael?
|
|
|
| Was "Ad hominem" something you found on a "Word of the Day" calendar?

I suspect I knew about that phrase long before you were born.

Snip ad hominem attack.

 

[Michael Stevens]

In

LOL! Yes it did! ;-)

LOL I am sure it did.
Looking back on this thread, if the OP would have explained why he flashed
the bios with the non-eMachines flash in the first place, I believe this
thread would have been significantly shorter. I would not have made my first
post chastising the OP for using a non-authorized bios which was the start
of the thread.
BTW. Actually my original post was posted by mistake, my intent was to
answer the different questions in line, but I accidentally posted the
message before I finished the reply. When I realized the message was sent
out, it was too late to change the tone of the post. But I guarantee I would
not have hesitated in doing what the OP did in his situation to get his
mom's computer up and working. But I would have done exactly what you
suggested in your Monday morning suggestion to get everything back to a
system that is not at risk in the future for updates.
I never suggested or felt the OP was in any way in violation of the MS EULA,
the only thing they violated was the eMachines restore policy. If daygo had
been upfront about what prompted his bios flash, the thread would not have
exploded into the monster it did. LOL
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Even if the machine is out of warranty, he still should be able to
purchase a replacement motherboard from eMachines.

And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from an
OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard [which
would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM copy
of XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to do
in the mean time, do without using a computer?

So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary fix,
I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up and
running again."

 

[Michael Stevens]

In

On 1/31/2005 7:13 PM On a whim, Michael pounded out on the keyboard


Restored the BIOS and video driver? For a chip that's fried? You can
blast him for what he did all you want. I think he did what anyone in
this group would have done given the same circumstances, regardless of
anyones arguments. I'm done...

I agree, and probably would have done the same to get the system working,
but would have replaced the video card with one that did not require the
bios flash and return the system back to the state where it would not be in
a non-eMachine restore configuration. There was also the probability the
option to use a generic OEM CD with the eMachines key to do a repair
install. The OP's reluctance to supply all the vital information made the
suggestions much more difficult and volatile than they should have been.
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[Michael Stevens]

In

He said he could use that card, it was from another system, and the
only video card he had was the one he was planning to use for his
brothers system.

He got his mom's computer up and running, and you would have made your
mom wait for parts! What a schmuck! How long was she in labor with
you?

I would not have done exactly done as the OP did to get his mother's
computer up and running, but I would not have let any licensing restrictions
get in the way of getting the system up and running to retrieve the valuable
information.
The OP was wrong not explaining the reason why he flashed the bios with a
non-eMachines flash. I still don't understand why it took him so long to
disclose the reason. I know it would have made a huge difference in my
original post that seemed to trigger this thread.