Windows XP Issue (Activation) II

[kurttrail]

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I agree, and probably would have done the same to get the system
working, but would have replaced the video card with one that did not
require the bios flash and return the system back to the state where
it would not be in a non-eMachine restore configuration. There was
also the probability the option to use a generic OEM CD with the
eMachines key to do a repair install. The OP's reluctance to supply
all the vital information made the suggestions much more difficult
and volatile than they should have been.

I don't think the OP had access to OEM media at the time he was fixing
his mom's computer (a guess on my part), but I again want to thank you
for your honesty, Mike.

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[Leythos]

The OP was wrong not explaining the reason why he flashed the bios with a
non-eMachines flash. I still don't understand why it took him so long to
disclose the reason. I know it would have made a huge difference in my
original post that seemed to trigger this thread.

Having seen posts like his many times in many groups, he was deliberately
holding back the details since he was already aware that what he did was
unethical and wrong in most people eyes. Not only was he wrong and tried
to hide it, but he left his mother with a unstable system that could
experience another hardware fault at any time.

 

[kurttrail]

Having seen posts like his many times in many groups, he was
deliberately holding back the details since he was already aware that
what he did was unethical and wrong in most people eyes.

Um, most people in this thread don't even think that. It's about 50/50,
with people who are technically knowledgeable. In the real world where
most people aren't techies, I believe that MOST people would only care
that their system was up and running, and have little understanding
about the vageries of whether it was RIGHT or WRONG.

Not only was
he wrong and tried to hide it, but he left his mother with a unstable
system that could experience another hardware fault at any time.

LOL! The moron has never seen the system to know whether it is unstable
or not!

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[Terry]

On 2/2/2005 4:12 AM On a whim, Michael Stevens pounded out on the keyboard

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LOL I am sure it did.
Looking back on this thread, if the OP would have explained why he flashed
the bios with the non-eMachines flash in the first place, I believe this
thread would have been significantly shorter. I would not have made my first
post chastising the OP for using a non-authorized bios which was the start
of the thread.
BTW. Actually my original post was posted by mistake, my intent was to
answer the different questions in line, but I accidentally posted the
message before I finished the reply. When I realized the message was sent
out, it was too late to change the tone of the post. But I guarantee I would
not have hesitated in doing what the OP did in his situation to get his
mom's computer up and working. But I would have done exactly what you
suggested in your Monday morning suggestion to get everything back to a
system that is not at risk in the future for updates.
I never suggested or felt the OP was in any way in violation of the MS EULA,
the only thing they violated was the eMachines restore policy. If daygo had
been upfront about what prompted his bios flash, the thread would not have
exploded into the monster it did. LOL

I agree with you Michael. There never was any reason for the, "I'm
right, he was wrong" comments expressed here.

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[Terry]

Having seen posts like his many times in many groups, he was
deliberately holding back the details since he was already aware that
what he did was unethical and wrong in most people eyes.

Um, most people in this thread don't even think that. It's about 50/50,
with people who are technically knowledgeable. In the real world where
most people aren't techies, I believe that MOST people would only care
that their system was up and running, and have little understanding
about the vageries of whether it was RIGHT or WRONG.

Not only was
he wrong and tried to hide it, but he left his mother with a unstable
system that could experience another hardware fault at any time.

LOL! The moron has never seen the system to know whether it is unstable
or not!
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And he didn't think of that himself. He only started using that line
after someone else brought up the possibility of the MB having further
damage that may show up later.

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[Leythos]

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:33:35 -0800, Terry wrote:
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And he didn't think of that himself. He only started using that line
after someone else brought up the possibility of the MB having further
damage that may show up later.

And the fact that someone mentioned it first has what to do with the idea
that it's most likely true?

Would you be willing to bet stability on returning a system with fried
components to your "mother"?

 

[kurttrail]

Um, most people in this thread don't even think that. It's about
50/50, with people who are technically knowledgeable. In the real
world where most people aren't techies, I believe that MOST people
would only care that their system was up and running, and have
little understanding about the vageries of whether it was RIGHT or
WRONG.


LOL! The moron has never seen the system to know whether it is
unstable or not!

And he didn't think of that himself. He only started using that line
after someone else brought up the possibility of the MB having further
damage that may show up later.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, But I do agree that the mobo could possibly fail again, but I can
possibly die before I post this. Possibility doesn't mean the mobo is
actually unstable, any more than I will die before posting this. But
Leythos is having his little hissy fit, because deep down inside he
knows it is he that might be WRONG, but he is so full of himself that he
can't possibly publicly admit his own self-doubt, and definitely can't
admit it to himself. That's why he had to say that "most people" would
think what the OP did was wrong, to convince himself that he was the one
that is really RIGHT.

And after reading some of his advise and some of his questions in this
group, I highly doubt he would have thought to check with the mobo
manufacturer for an updated bios that had specific fix for the kind of
video card that the OP used, and would have made his own mother spend
hundreds of bucks [on a new motherboard and a new copy of windows], and
wait for days, if not longer, for those items to ship, in order her to
use her computer again.

Hell, I bet he would have charged her for a repair call too!

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[Kelly]

Still raining here and don't hike, but I hear you. )

As for Mardi Gras, yup. Parades started last Friday, continue throughout
the week and end on Fat Tuesday. Followed by Ash Wednesday then six weeks
of lent. Go crawfish!!!

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[David Candy]

Friday 4th February 2005 (6pm to 11pm) Mardi Gras Festival Launch 2005

Sunday 20th February 2005 (10:30am to 8pm) Fair Day 2005

Saturday 5th March 2005 Parade & Party

Sunday 6th March 2005 Official After Party - ToyBox Luna Park (SOLD OUT!)

http://www.mardigras.org.au/

 

[jeffrey]

Hi,

I miss Mardi Gras, been in New Orleans for it in 90 and 95, still have a ton
of beads and coins from the parades. Someday will go back to enjoy another.

Jeff

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Friday 4th February 2005 (6pm to 11pm) Mardi Gras Festival Launch 2005

Sunday 20th February 2005 (10:30am to 8pm) Fair Day 2005

Saturday 5th March 2005 Parade & Party

Sunday 6th March 2005 Official After Party - ToyBox Luna Park (SOLD OUT!)

http://www.mardigras.org.au/

 

[Kelly]

Ah, a bit different. However, none the less excluded from ours. )
Thanks for sharing, David.

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Friday 4th February 2005 (6pm to 11pm) Mardi Gras Festival Launch 2005

Sunday 20th February 2005 (10:30am to 8pm) Fair Day 2005

Saturday 5th March 2005 Parade & Party

Sunday 6th March 2005 Official After Party - ToyBox Luna Park (SOLD OUT!)

http://www.mardigras.org.au/

 

[Kelly]

And were you a balcony viewer? ) BTW, why did you move?

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[Kelly]

Good on you, Michael. Thanks! )

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[Kelly]

<LOL> returned. Yall two are great examples. )

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In

LOL! Yes it did! ;-)

LOL I am sure it did.
Looking back on this thread, if the OP would have explained why he flashed
the bios with the non-eMachines flash in the first place, I believe this
thread would have been significantly shorter. I would not have made my
first post chastising the OP for using a non-authorized bios which was the
start of the thread.
BTW. Actually my original post was posted by mistake, my intent was to
answer the different questions in line, but I accidentally posted the
message before I finished the reply. When I realized the message was sent
out, it was too late to change the tone of the post. But I guarantee I
would not have hesitated in doing what the OP did in his situation to get
his mom's computer up and working. But I would have done exactly what you
suggested in your Monday morning suggestion to get everything back to a
system that is not at risk in the future for updates.
I never suggested or felt the OP was in any way in violation of the MS
EULA, the only thing they violated was the eMachines restore policy. If
daygo had been upfront about what prompted his bios flash, the thread
would not have exploded into the monster it did. LOL
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I believe he already mentioned that the computer was already out of
warranty, so eMachines won't replace the MOBO.


Even if the machine is out of warranty, he still should be able to
purchase a replacement motherboard from eMachines.

And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from an
OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard [which
would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new OEM copy
of XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom supposed to do
in the mean time, do without using a computer?

So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary fix,
I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer up and
running again."

 

[David Candy]

It's the biggest parade in Sydney. I used to live on the route. This is a family event here for spectators.

 

[Kelly]

Didn't realize that, David. Hope all goes well. )

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It's the biggest parade in Sydney. I used to live on the route. This is a
family event here for spectators.

 

[Michael Stevens]

In Kelly (e-mail address removed)

And were you a balcony viewer? ) BTW, why did you move?

I was on my first Mardi Gras in 1972, Orleans Street, what a blast it was.
Big pot of crawfish boiling; lot's of good spirits; good people having lot's
of fun. Counted 90 happy souls on the balcony at one time, thank goodness
they add the extra supports.
No place like the French Quarter. Ever hear of a place called Mosca's, and
old speakeasy across the Ponchitrain? Wonderful food, the best Oyster
casserole I ever tasted.

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[Michael Stevens]

In Kelly (e-mail address removed) Respectfully replied ;-)

<LOL> returned. Yall two are great examples. )

Now you have to tell us what we [Yall] are great examples of. LOL

In

Bruce Chambers wrote:
kurttrail wrote:



I agree with you here.


Did that hurt you to type? ;-}

LOL! Yes it did! ;-)

LOL I am sure it did.
Looking back on this thread, if the OP would have explained why he
flashed the bios with the non-eMachines flash in the first place, I
believe this thread would have been significantly shorter. I would
not have made my first post chastising the OP for using a
non-authorized bios which was the start of the thread.
BTW. Actually my original post was posted by mistake, my intent was
to answer the different questions in line, but I accidentally posted
the message before I finished the reply. When I realized the message
was sent out, it was too late to change the tone of the post. But I
guarantee I would not have hesitated in doing what the OP did in his
situation to get his mom's computer up and working. But I would have
done exactly what you suggested in your Monday morning suggestion to
get everything back to a system that is not at risk in the future
for updates. I never suggested or felt the OP was in any way in violation
of the
MS EULA, the only thing they violated was the eMachines restore
policy. If daygo had been upfront about what prompted his bios
flash, the thread would not have exploded into the monster it did.
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I believe he already mentioned that the computer was already out
of warranty, so eMachines won't replace the MOBO.


Even if the machine is out of warranty, he still should be able to
purchase a replacement motherboard from eMachines.

And have you ever tried to purchase a replacement motherboard from
an OEM? The markup is humungous, and buying a cheapy motherboard
[which would be no step down from the ones eMachines uses] and new
OEM copy of XP would probably be cheaper. And what was his mom
supposed to do in the mean time, do without using a computer?

So I'll repeat what you cut from your reply, "But as a temporary
fix, I'd have done what he did, to get my family member's computer
up and running again."

 

[kurttrail]

In Kelly (e-mail address removed) Respectfully replied ;-)

<LOL> returned. Yall two are great examples. )

Now you have to tell us what we [Yall] are great examples of. LOL

Exploding threads into monsters?

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[Kelly]

Hi Michael,

Balcony viewers are generally known as flashers. <w> Other than that, you
said it right.....Cajun folks are all about: Great people, food, spirits,
times and music. Glad you enjoyed it. )

As per your latter mention, crossing the Lake means taking a 26 mile hike
over the Causeway.

However, from seeing the addresses here, you must have meant the view. )
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=Mosca's&near=New+Orleans,+LA&sa=X&oi=localr

As per hearing of them, nada. Speaking of oysters and oyster casseroles, no
comment. <w> Last on my list.

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