"non-genuine" XP PRO ??

[Frank]

ANONYMOUS wrote:
|| Frank wrote:
|||
||| Employees or whoever were using the numbers from the
||| tag affixed to the case to install XP. The first one to use
||| WGA has the edge. It will then show up as not valid
||| for the original buyer.
||| This is a real world problem. I am in the process of slowly
||| switching to MACs. One company, one OS, few to no
||| viruses, etc, etc.
|||
||
||
|| you should *quickly* switch to MACs (not slowly) and don't bother to
|| tell us about it. We are not interested in what you do. When you
|| decide to come back to Windows then you can tell us that as this is
|| what we are interested in!!
||
|| Good luck!!

Who died and made you the spokesman. _We_ is a lot
of people. Or do you have a mouse in your pocket?

 

[Mistoffolees]

Where did you read that a certain MVP "practically accused Newegg of
fraud"?

Are you referring to what Carey wrote?
"It could be that Newegg inadvertently and unknowingly, purchased some
high-quality, counterfeit OEM Windows XP CDs a few years ago."

If so, which part of "inadvertently and unknowingly" are you saying
could be construed as an accusation of fraud?

If not, what/where is this accusation you refer to?

The computer business is so big, yet marginal, that there is
no reason for Newegg to be dealing outside of the established
norm of acquiring sales items. To write that the acquisition
was inadvertant and unknowingly indicts the entire distribution
chain. Newegg (nor any other organization in the chain) is not
going to show up on the docks of Long Beach, pick up a pallet of
Windows XP from some ship arriving from Hong Kong, and put them
into distribution. The risk to make a few more pennies in profit,
by Newegg or by its local and regional distributors, in this way
is simply not there. It's bad business for a top-ranked company
and all of the links, right up to Microsoft Sales (and, yes, a
few of them had tried to give me some "screwy" deals in the past).

But there are more private users who would copy a Windows XP OEM
cdrom and swipe the COA's that are attached to sides or bottoms of
computers and distribute the list to friends, co-workers, class-
mates, etc. The probability of this scenario is very significant,
more so than small dealers who really need to squeeze pennies and
might be duped by high-quality counterfeiters.

Defend Carey, if you want; I do, when it is warranted.

 

[Guest]

and once more, we now know why man does not have the ability to govern
himself...

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

You will find "NoWhereMan's" thread in the WGA Forum interesting:
http://forums.microsoft.com/genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=536661&SiteID=25

"I received the replacement software from Newegg and used the Key Update Tool to reflect the new License Key. It worked like a charm
and the O/S now validates as genuine."


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User

Enjoy all the benefits of genuine Microsoft software:
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/default.mspx

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|
| Incognitus wrote:
|
| >
| > | > <snip>
| >
| >> Explain to them the solutions that you
| >> are being offered by Microsoft and add that a certain MVP has
| >> practically accused Newegg of fraud.
| >
| >
| > Where did you read that a certain MVP "practically accused Newegg of
| > fraud"?
| >
| > Are you referring to what Carey wrote?
| > "It could be that Newegg inadvertently and unknowingly, purchased some
| > high-quality, counterfeit OEM Windows XP CDs a few years ago."
| >
| > If so, which part of "inadvertently and unknowingly" are you saying
| > could be construed as an accusation of fraud?
| >
| > If not, what/where is this accusation you refer to?
|
| The computer business is so big, yet marginal, that there is
| no reason for Newegg to be dealing outside of the established
| norm of acquiring sales items. To write that the acquisition
| was inadvertant and unknowingly indicts the entire distribution
| chain. Newegg (nor any other organization in the chain) is not
| going to show up on the docks of Long Beach, pick up a pallet of
| Windows XP from some ship arriving from Hong Kong, and put them
| into distribution. The risk to make a few more pennies in profit,
| by Newegg or by its local and regional distributors, in this way
| is simply not there. It's bad business for a top-ranked company
| and all of the links, right up to Microsoft Sales (and, yes, a
| few of them had tried to give me some "screwy" deals in the past).
|
| But there are more private users who would copy a Windows XP OEM
| cdrom and swipe the COA's that are attached to sides or bottoms of
| computers and distribute the list to friends, co-workers, class-
| mates, etc. The probability of this scenario is very significant,
| more so than small dealers who really need to squeeze pennies and
| might be duped by high-quality counterfeiters.
|
| Defend Carey, if you want; I do, when it is warranted.

 

[GHalleck]

You will find "NoWhereMan's" thread in the WGA Forum interesting:
http://forums.microsoft.com/genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=536661&SiteID=25

"I received the replacement software from Newegg and used the Key Update Tool to reflect the new License Key. It worked like a charm
and the O/S now validates as genuine."

That is a good ending for NoWhereman. But something written
by Phil Liu is very interesting. It points to the very need to
uniquely identify every legitimate activation in contrast to
attempt to eliminate the illicit activations based on just the
first block of 5 numbers and the last block of 5 numbers. The
uniqueness is contributed by the hash block of 7 numbers. If
the entire sequence of ID - WWWWW-XXX-YYYYYYY-ZZZZZ - is not used
for WGA, then the limitations of just WWWWW and ZZZZZ can result
in problems for legitimate users. If YYYYYYYY is being used in
accordance to prior Microsoft tradition, then a far superior way
to clearly identify the illegitimate (i.e., reported stolen, lost,
or other license usage, etc.) copies. Maybe there is still hope.

 

[Incognitus]

Defend Carey, if you want; I do, when it is warranted.

Your permission isn't required.

 

[Frank]

and once more, we now know why man does not have the ability to govern
himself...

............................................................................................................
Another top poster with nothing to say from the web interface../..

 

[ANONYMOUS]

I am just curious that you have decided to move to MACs because WGA will
catch you out with all the pirated software you are using. I wonder
where will you get pirated software for your MACs? You will have to
come back to Wintel which has plenty of software out there for pirates
like you.

Does this open your eyes in any way? If so go and get stuffed with MACs
and don't bother to bore us with nonsence argument.

 

[Frank]

I am just curious that you have decided to move to MACs because WGA will
catch you out with all the pirated software you are using. I wonder
where will you get pirated software for your MACs? You will have to
come back to Wintel which has plenty of software out there for pirates
like you.

Does this open your eyes in any way? If so go and get stuffed with MACs
and don't bother to bore us with nonsence argument.

reply post should be here to remain consistent with the
rest of the thread.

Just what are you accusing me of. You don't even know how
to follow a thread. Are you a troll, or hasn't your mommy
come home from work yet? I live in a country that one is
free to move across town or across country just because
they feel like it. I don't need a reason to change OS except
that I want to.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

I am simply wondering if you are using pirated MS software. If you are
not using pirated MS software then why are you afraid of installing WGA?
Why would anyone be so stupid to move to another OS just because one
must have WGA or else no more patches! I have not come across any
stupid person making such decisions without taking account of all the
costs involved! ARE you A TROLL?

As to top posting, bottom posting or inline posting, there aren't right,
or wrong ways. Indeed, my posion has already been online and it says do
whatever turns you on. why would one wants to scroll down a long
message just to see two lines reply from a troll like you?

So where do you get your pirated software for MACs? Aren't you a bit
hasty of moving to another OS where you are not likely to get pirated
software? What is it so objectionable about WGA?

Come with a convincing argument this time and make sure you top post
otherwise I will not bother to reply. I don't like scrolling down the
page!!

Bye Bye!!

 

[Gordon]

As to top posting, bottom posting or inline posting, there aren't right,
or wrong ways. Indeed, my posion has already been online and it says do
whatever turns you on. why would one wants to scroll down a long
message just to see two lines reply from a troll like you?

Quite - but you don't read a book from the bottom of a page to the top, do
you?

 

[ANONYMOUS]

I do. At school I read the book from end to front in the belief that
exam questions would be hard and they are invariably at the end!!. The
stuff at the beginning is for people with absolute no knowledge. ZILT
they say!

I passed my exams and went to London University and got a PHd in
computing so I must have done something right! Did you read your books
from page one? did you have any success in this system?

 

[Frank]

Quite - but you don't read a book from the bottom of a page to the top, do
you?

People do not read the last paragraph, the first paragraph, and then
some paragraphs from the middle of a thread. But apparently
ANONYMOUS does. He is just rude.

 

[Frank]

Top posted to stay with the structure of the thread.
You are just rude and completely uninformed about keeping your
privacy.

 

[Frank]

BULLSHXT......

I do. At school I read the book from end to front in the belief that
exam questions would be hard and they are invariably at the end!!. The
stuff at the beginning is for people with absolute no knowledge. ZILT
they say!

I passed my exams and went to London University and got a PHd in
computing so I must have done something right! Did you read your books
from page one? did you have any success in this system?

 

[ANONYMOUS]

BULLSHXT......

Now you have conformed what I thougt of you from the start. Experience
is a wonderful thing on this planet. I have come across many crack pots
like you in my life and I am not a teenager!!