Further reason to hate IE and to use Firefox.

[Daniel Mandic]

It does not matter how much you whine.. IE7 will be out WITH activeX
and you will have all your time to cry about it.

Hi Kenny!


I hope without Tabs, or MS-like at least to disable.

What is this thread good for. MS Products are the best alternative to a
lame hardware called IBM-PC compatible´s. Now with IBM-PC sold it got
even more worse (more lame hardware).

All I can say is, that IE is IMO the best, fastest, most reliable,
multi-NORm Browser. The least I cannot understand is, that many other
browser are told to be faster than IE!? I tried many browsers and IE is
the fastest. Till Ver.5. 3 or 4 were really slower (I used Netscape
3.04 at this time). I have also heard, MS is destroying his own Product
XP, with Srvice Pqck 2. ;-).... My Hardware got fully updated (new
drivers etc,. 1996 Chipset). Linux and consorts did not even finish the
ISA Cards, for now .. hehe. Not to mention the other lame
hardware-drivers. Well, maybe it gets better when also hardware is
available for free ;-)

I like MS and their IBM-PC politic. They know what is good hardware.
They can write good drivers and support their OS with many good other
Software. And they have the rights to kick out any stupid modernizer
from their OS. SP2 is Best!!! Windows 95 is cool!! NT4 is fast. XP is
plain genius, though it needs a bit faster PC´s. DOS is also Nice.





Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Bob Adkins]

Now that MS knows the threats it will improve security and all the problems
will be solved.

Hmmmm... well, I believe MS will honestly TRY to.

However, they will never totally succeed. If the little snot-nose hackers
can't break through the wall, they will take up the challenge and find a way
to go around it. The vaunted "Safe" FireFox has already been breeched
several times. I bet much of FF's development time has been diverted to
patching up security holes instead of working on tangible improvements.

But you said it best Kenny: Blame the hackers first and foremost for
spoiling things for everyone. Blame MS (and Mozilla, etc) to a much lesser
degree for not being totally secure. Many, many people can not grasp the
meaning of the word "totally". It's an absolute, and absolutes are rare in
the universe.

 

[Bob Adkins]

I'm the first to admit that not everything MS does is engraved on clay
tablets from God, but if you're going to criticise a product - from
anyone -use facts, not prejudice.

Borrowed from the Web:

Q: Why do you hate IE?
A: Because it's from Microsoft!

Q: Why do you love FireFox"
A: Because it's not from Microsoft!

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 27 Nov 2005, Bob Adkins wrote

Now Harvey, there you go trying to confuse us with facts and
clear logic again.

[hangs head in shame and stands in corner]

 

[Morten Skarstad]

Active X was a fantastic technology born in a time where hackers were
scarce.

MS had good ideas... then after several years newage brat 18 year old
hackers came along and ruined everything.

No MS could not see into the future and know how evil users would
become.
You do not accuse the hackers.

Yes we do. We accuse hackers for being malevolent, sociopatic scum with
nothing good to do with their time. But doing that does not mean we have
forfeited the right to call MS stupid, and say that ActiveX was a bad idea
poorly executed.

 

[Morten Skarstad]

Mike Bourke & 9999 monkeys in a room full of typewriters eventually
produced:

Bla bla bla: Nonsense. Bla bla bla bla
bla bla bla bla.

(1) One of the standard items on the IE toolbar is "copy", which
copies whatever is currently highlighted.

Did you actually _read_ the thread you are replying to?

Hint:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/unselectable.asp

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Morten Skarstad wrote:

Hi Morten!



I hear so much about spam, hackers, spy and more. Can you show me one
face? Just one.






Best Regards.

Daniel Mandic

 

[Morten Skarstad]

I hear so much about spam, hackers, spy and more. Can you show me one
face? Just one.

My language skills must be a bit off, because I did not understand the
question. Care to clarify?

 

[Dan]

From the Wikipedia, the following definition:

"In Internet slang, a luser is a painfully annoying, stupid, or
irritating computer user."

Why would you make such an offensive remark? Do you know me? What
have I done that would make you refer to me in such a manner?

Are we just a little hypersensitive, John?

 

[Dan]

No, that isn't the case. As proof, I notice that I am able to select
(word by word if I like) but not copy. Besides, I'm not so
inexperienced as to make that mistake.

I must have the special version of IE that never has this issue.

 

[Dan]

select >> and copy text from a website in IE, but can go to that same
website in >> Firefox and then be allowed to do so?

Ha ha! And what irony that this proof of standards non-compliancy is
at a Microsoft site.

Thanks very much for your help and for providing this proof, REM! It
goes right along with my remark "Just wish that ActiveX other such
proprietary shinanigans would die a well deserved death."

Your original inference was that IE was defective, thus your assertion
was not validated. You are simply whining because some web authors
choose to protect their content using HTML attributes. If you don't
like protected content, simply move on. There are billions of
unprotected web pages out in cyberspace.

 

[Dan]

Mike Bourke & 9999 monkeys in a room full of typewriters eventually
produced:

Did you actually read the thread you are replying to?

Hint:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/u
nselectable.asp

A web author using this attribute to protect content does not mean that
IE is defective as Mr Corliss would like us to believe.

 

[R_Green]

kenny wrote:

Yes we do. We accuse hackers for being malevolent, sociopatic scum with
nothing good to do with their time. But doing that does not mean we have
forfeited the right to call MS stupid, and say that ActiveX was a bad idea
poorly executed.

That's like saying that pkware are stupid because the made the zip format
that are used as a container for viruses. ActiveX is a wonderful tool when
it's used well. The problem arise when the technology is missused or
insecurely used. IE had protection from it's missuse from day one, but how
many stupid persons clicked in the Install button without reading when a
ActiveX control wanted to install something? Don't blame the technology.
Blame the uneducated users.

I did read that 23% of the linux servers compromised last years were
compromised because users never patched the "bind" server. Will people blame
Linus for this?

 

[Daniel Mandic]

My language skills must be a bit off, because I did not understand
the question. Care to clarify?

erm. I tried to explain in other words, that I fear more such people
defending and hunting spammer, they cannot see.
I had times getting 200 Emails per day. I never used a spam blocker or
something else, nor using a firewall (now I use one :-(... otherwise no
internetting is possible at all).
Maybe this spam is offworld..... how would the anti-spammer community
look like then ... Many arguments, laws, organizations and standard
comments would be rebutted. eh? There are no unfailingly sources to
underpin evidence, or? Someone already catched a real living human - a
spammer? Names? Photos?

It´s not possible to make good from bad. Terminating bad makes maximal
neutral. For me it makes not really a difference, if an observer is a
jerking adolescent or a representative of the government. So it seems
to me, many anti-xxxxx are likely to take over the behaviours, they
started primarily to get rid off. So spammer and anti-spammer
initiatives can be understand as a Job. The Logic forbids a long time
work, ;-).




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[jacaranda]

You can leave javascript enabled. To permanently stop scripts from
disabling the right-click menu, it's Tools » Options » Web Features
» the 'advanced' button next to JavaScript » uncheck the box for
'Disable or replace context menus'. I thought it was unchecked by
default.

Thanks for that. I normally leave javascript off, so when I enable it, I
didn't realize I had any control over it. Now I know.

 

[David]

Your original inference was that IE was defective, thus your assertion
was not validated. You are simply whining because some web authors
choose to protect their content using HTML attributes. If you don't
like protected content, simply move on. There are billions of
unprotected web pages out in cyberspace.

Since it is only IE that understands these non-standard attributes
then the assertion that IE is defective is proven.
--
David
Remove "farook" to reply
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
E-mail: justdas at iinet dot net dot au

 

[Dan]

Since it is only IE that understands these non-standard attributes
then the assertion that IE is defective is proven.

Operating as designed = nondefective.

 

[Morten Skarstad]

Someone already catched a real living human - a
spammer? Names? Photos?

Well, a man known to be "UK's worst spammer" was recently sentenced to six
years in jail. See
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listing.lasso?-op=cn&spammer=Peter Francis-Macrae

Also, "Russia's biggest spammer", Vardan Kushnir, was found this year after
having his head subjected to massive blunt violence. I was unable to find a
photo of him, though.

Apart from that, a lot of spammers are known and has been for quite some
time. A big problem so far has been that a lot of countries have not had
laws that enables them to act upon spammers. Things have been changing
though, and this last year I have seen a lot of hackers, spammers and virus
makers hitting mainstream news headlines.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

That's like saying that pkware are stupid because the made the zip
format that are used as a container for viruses.

No, pkzip never had a vulnerability that allowed malware to install
without user input.

IE had protection from it's missuse from day one, but how
many stupid persons clicked in the Install button without reading
when a ActiveX control wanted to install something? Don't blame
the technology. Blame the uneducated users.

If the many vulnerabilities discovered in ActiveX had required user
input in order to exploit them, ActiveX wouldn't have the bad
reputation it deserves. If the "blame the users" argument is to be
used, you have to blame them for not disabling ActiveX.

 

[John Corliss]

John Corliss wrote:




Are we just a little hypersensitive, John?

Look, you just called me a "luser". How would YOU like to be referred to
in that manner? How would YOU respond?

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.