Where is the DRM?

[PSiegmann]

So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all
the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so
far!

Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx
movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online
radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am
sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or
what?

After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this
is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

 

[Spirit]

You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/w...-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by
the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista
experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then
that protection mechanism is not used.

 

[PSiegmann]

You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/win...

When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by
the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista
experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then
that protection mechanism is not used.

And on XP, it was different?! I can't remember that WMP on XP played
protected media files without license.

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

So, I have installed Vista, and played around with it.. Now, after all
the DRM hype, I am even a bit disappointed that.. I didn't find DRM so
far!

Seriously, where is it? I played so far MP3's, DVD's, some dodgy divx
movies, listened to online radio, captured the stream from the online
radio with audacity.. and nothing happened.

Am I missing something? OK, I didn't try blu-ray and HD DVD, and I am
sure, there are some restrictions with those, but, this is it, or
what?

After all DRM doom and gloom craze that I was reading everywhere, this
is.. like watching a horror movie without any blood in it.

No, seriously, where are all the evil restrictions?

So you didn't have to activate over the internet? You didn't download
updates from Windows updates for Vista? Those all include various types
of DRM.

You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting
information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or
without your knowledge:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forg...s-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

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[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

You obviously don't having anything using DRM.......

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/w...-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

When are Windows Vista's content protection features actually used?

Windows Vista's content protection mechanisms are only used when required by
the policy associated with the content being played. For Windows Vista
experiences, if the content does not require a particular protection, then
that protection mechanism is not used.

If you have installed Vista, you are already using content that has DRM
restrictions.

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[Alias]

You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting
information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or
without your knowledge:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forg...s-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtml

Wow!

Alias

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

Wow!

Alias

Yeah, right!

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[DanS]

Wow!

Alias

So *THAT'S* where the WOW is !!!!

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

So *THAT'S* where the WOW is !!!!

LOL!

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[PSiegmann]

So you didn't have to activate over the internet? You didn't download
updates from Windows updates for Vista? Those all include various types
of DRM.

Activation is not new to Vista. Yeah, I downloaded all the updates
from Windows Update...still, nothing happened, in regard to multimedia
files at least.

You also should be aware of the 20+ services and features harvesting
information about you and your machine and sending it to MS with or
without your knowledge:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-...

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Ehm. From the website:

"Activation, Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP), Device
Manager, Driver Protection, Dynamic Update, Event Viewer, File
Association Web Service, Games Folder, Error Reporting for Handwriting
Recognition, Input Method Editor (IME), Installation Improvement
Program, Internet Printing, Internet Protocol version 6 Network
Address Translation Traversal, Network Awareness (somewhat), Parental
Controls, Peer Name Resolution Service, Plug and Play, Plug and Play
Extensions, Program Compatibility Assistant, Program Properties-
Compatibility Tab, Program Compatibility Wizard, Properties,
Registration, Rights Management Services (RMS) Client, Update Root
Certificates, Windows Control Panel, Windows Help, Windows Mail (only
with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) and Windows Problem
Reporting are the main features and services in Windows Vista that
collect and transmit user data to Microsoft. "

Activation - was already in XP
Customer Experience - wasn't that thing in office for years? It can be
deactivated.
Device Manager - Big news, I think since windows 2000 it was able to
search for drivers on Windows Update on the internet,if you wanted to.
Driver Protection - Does it really contact MS? AFAIK it checks just if
the driver is "valid" (on 64 bit systems at least)
Dynamic Update - Can't find it (VHP)
Event Viewer - Yes, it does contact MS, but as far as I know, only if
you want it (it redirects you to a web page where an event is
described more in depth) .. this behavior also was already in XP.
File Assiocation Web Service - well, DUH! This thing was already in
XP, it contacts a website, if you want to know what a certain unknown
file ending stands for (at users will).
Problem Reporting - ... now, this is nearly stupid. If you report a
problem, who should it contact?
Windows Mail (only with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) -
DUH. Windows mail contacts MSN if you use MSN? Oh my GOD!
Windows Help - if you start it, it already gives you an option to
contact MS, and search the MS website for help (was already in XP).
Program Compatibility Assistant - Well ... this thing:http://
windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/82c0440d-553e-47e9-
b4bd-6c2d10df4de71033.mspx#EQ ? It gives you the option to contact MS,
and ask for a solution for a problem with the program.


Seriously, this is lame. Half of the list was already on XP, and the
rest is somewhat.. DUH.

I am still searching for the allmighty big evil I am hearing about.
Seriously. All that I have seen and now experienced with Vista on this
computer so far, was pretty non-spectacular.

 

[Lang Murphy]

Activation is not new to Vista. Yeah, I downloaded all the updates
from Windows Update...still, nothing happened, in regard to multimedia
files at least.


Ehm. From the website:

"Activation, Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP), Device
Manager, Driver Protection, Dynamic Update, Event Viewer, File
Association Web Service, Games Folder, Error Reporting for Handwriting
Recognition, Input Method Editor (IME), Installation Improvement
Program, Internet Printing, Internet Protocol version 6 Network
Address Translation Traversal, Network Awareness (somewhat), Parental
Controls, Peer Name Resolution Service, Plug and Play, Plug and Play
Extensions, Program Compatibility Assistant, Program Properties-
Compatibility Tab, Program Compatibility Wizard, Properties,
Registration, Rights Management Services (RMS) Client, Update Root
Certificates, Windows Control Panel, Windows Help, Windows Mail (only
with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) and Windows Problem
Reporting are the main features and services in Windows Vista that
collect and transmit user data to Microsoft. "

Activation - was already in XP
Customer Experience - wasn't that thing in office for years? It can be
deactivated.
Device Manager - Big news, I think since windows 2000 it was able to
search for drivers on Windows Update on the internet,if you wanted to.
Driver Protection - Does it really contact MS? AFAIK it checks just if
the driver is "valid" (on 64 bit systems at least)
Dynamic Update - Can't find it (VHP)
Event Viewer - Yes, it does contact MS, but as far as I know, only if
you want it (it redirects you to a web page where an event is
described more in depth) .. this behavior also was already in XP.
File Assiocation Web Service - well, DUH! This thing was already in
XP, it contacts a website, if you want to know what a certain unknown
file ending stands for (at users will).
Problem Reporting - ... now, this is nearly stupid. If you report a
problem, who should it contact?
Windows Mail (only with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) -
DUH. Windows mail contacts MSN if you use MSN? Oh my GOD!
Windows Help - if you start it, it already gives you an option to
contact MS, and search the MS website for help (was already in XP).
Program Compatibility Assistant - Well ... this thing:http://
windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/82c0440d-553e-47e9-
b4bd-6c2d10df4de71033.mspx#EQ ? It gives you the option to contact MS,
and ask for a solution for a problem with the program.


Seriously, this is lame. Half of the list was already on XP, and the
rest is somewhat.. DUH.

I am still searching for the allmighty big evil I am hearing about.
Seriously. All that I have seen and now experienced with Vista on this
computer so far, was pretty non-spectacular.

No kidding... DRM is not a Vista only "feature." Ask anyone who has
purchased music via iTunes...

Lang

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

Activation is not new to Vista. Yeah, I downloaded all the updates
from Windows Update...still, nothing happened, in regard to multimedia
files at least.


Ehm. From the website:

"Activation, Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP), Device
Manager, Driver Protection, Dynamic Update, Event Viewer, File
Association Web Service, Games Folder, Error Reporting for Handwriting
Recognition, Input Method Editor (IME), Installation Improvement
Program, Internet Printing, Internet Protocol version 6 Network
Address Translation Traversal, Network Awareness (somewhat), Parental
Controls, Peer Name Resolution Service, Plug and Play, Plug and Play
Extensions, Program Compatibility Assistant, Program Properties-
Compatibility Tab, Program Compatibility Wizard, Properties,
Registration, Rights Management Services (RMS) Client, Update Root
Certificates, Windows Control Panel, Windows Help, Windows Mail (only
with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) and Windows Problem
Reporting are the main features and services in Windows Vista that
collect and transmit user data to Microsoft. "

Activation - was already in XP
Customer Experience - wasn't that thing in office for years? It can be
deactivated.
Device Manager - Big news, I think since windows 2000 it was able to
search for drivers on Windows Update on the internet,if you wanted to.
Driver Protection - Does it really contact MS? AFAIK it checks just if
the driver is "valid" (on 64 bit systems at least)
Dynamic Update - Can't find it (VHP)
Event Viewer - Yes, it does contact MS, but as far as I know, only if
you want it (it redirects you to a web page where an event is
described more in depth) .. this behavior also was already in XP.
File Assiocation Web Service - well, DUH! This thing was already in
XP, it contacts a website, if you want to know what a certain unknown
file ending stands for (at users will).
Problem Reporting - ... now, this is nearly stupid. If you report a
problem, who should it contact?
Windows Mail (only with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) -
DUH. Windows mail contacts MSN if you use MSN? Oh my GOD!
Windows Help - if you start it, it already gives you an option to
contact MS, and search the MS website for help (was already in XP).
Program Compatibility Assistant - Well ... this thing:http://
windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/82c0440d-553e-47e9-
b4bd-6c2d10df4de71033.mspx#EQ ? It gives you the option to contact MS,
and ask for a solution for a problem with the program.


Seriously, this is lame. Half of the list was already on XP, and the
rest is somewhat.. DUH.

I am still searching for the allmighty big evil I am hearing about.
Seriously. All that I have seen and now experienced with Vista on this
computer so far, was pretty non-spectacular.

Not everyone is like you. Some value their privacy.


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hackers."

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- T. S. Eliot