SP 2 ??

[Wab]

I would assume that people would do that for themselves anyhow.
The responsibility is with the upgrader.

Kind regards

Wab

BTW I wonder why you firstly question someone's figures then give your
own now are saying that they are meaningless. This defeats your
arguement in the first place.

 

[Testy]

NEVER ASSUME.

Testy

I would assume that people would do that for themselves anyhow.
The responsibility is with the upgrader.

Kind regards

Wab

BTW I wonder why you firstly question someone's figures then give your own
now are saying that they are meaningless. This defeats your arguement in
the first place.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

What does this tell you about the health of the human race:
Get total numbers of people who were in a hospital, clinic, emergency
trauma center etc in the last month.
Do not distinguish between visitors, doctors, staff, patients etc.
Also ignore if they are returning for a follow up.
You want just the total # of visits to those facilities in the last
month.
What can be concluded about the health of the human race?

The raw data in the Google search you suggest tells about as much and
is just as worthless.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Bobby;
Please post source for these statistics.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Barry;
You probably need SP-2.
Many computers having problems could have been prevented by
eliminating virus, spyware as well as other known and unknown problems
existing at the time.
When you are ready to install SP-2, be sure your computer is ready:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

 

[Testy]

Irrelevant to the sick and dying.

Testy

What does this tell you about the health of the human race:
Get total numbers of people who were in a hospital, clinic, emergency
trauma center etc in the last month.
Do not distinguish between visitors, doctors, staff, patients etc.
Also ignore if they are returning for a follow up.
You want just the total # of visits to those facilities in the last month.
What can be concluded about the health of the human race?

The raw data in the Google search you suggest tells about as much and is
just as worthless.

 

[Al Smith]

I have heard many pros and cons about SP 2.

Can someone tell me if I really need to install it? Is the version that
can be downloaded from the Microsoft website , the same as the free SP2 CD
that Microsoft will provide?
For whatever it's worth, my computer runs fine.,.
Thanks again
Barry/Austin

No, you don't need to install it. Just be sure to download and
install the critical updates that address security issues with XP.

 

[Alias]

:> I have heard many pros and cons about SP 2.
: > Can someone tell me if I really need to install it? Is the version
that
: > can be downloaded from the Microsoft website , the same as the free
SP2 CD
: > that Microsoft will provide?
: > For whatever it's worth, my computer runs fine.,.
: > Thanks again
: > Barry/Austin
:
: No, you don't need to install it. Just be sure to download and
: install the critical updates that address security issues with XP.

Please don't give out false information. If you don't really know, don't
comment.

Thank you.

Alias

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

And your raw data is irrelevant without further analysis.
Just because you can not install SP-2, do not assume others are also
incapable.

 

[Guest]

When jimping into the middle of a thread please read trhe entire thread. This
will make YOUR reply more relevant.

Testy

 

[Testy]

You are not very bright Jupiter. I am not having any problems with SP2! My
reply was to someone who stated A "98%" sucsess rate for SP2 based only on
his personal experience. If you take the time to actually read a thread
instead of your usual knee-jerk (no pun intended) reactions we will all be
better served.

Testy

And your raw data is irrelevant without further analysis.
Just because you can not install SP-2, do not assume others are also
incapable.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

You assume everyone "trashed his computer" since you need to consider
irrelevant the successful installations.
And yet there are solutions presented in this and other newsgroups
that can reduce the risk.
Your inability to install SP-2 does not have to be indicative of
typical results.

 

[Testy]

Boy you are totally STUPID! I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH SP2 please read the
thread BEFORE putting your foot in your big mouth!

Testy

 

[Wab]

I think you will find that some critical updates require SP2 to be
installed.

Kind regards

Wab

 

[Tony Talmage]

So now, just in this thread, we've heard about 312 machines (112 via R.
McCarty and 200 via Wab) that have had the SP installed, with only 2
machines experiencing problems. So, just as far as this thread is
concerned, that's a 0.6% failure rate. I understand that 312 machines is a
minute amount compared to the total number of computer owners, but if we're
going for statistics and evidence, it's a starting point.

--
Tony Talmage

Who did the surveys and verified them?

The diversity of the figures is so wide one wonders about the accuracy
in the first place. A spread of 8 to 30% makes one assume that the
survey is not scientific whatsoever.

And just because Google had 90,000 hits doesn't mean to say that all
90,000 had problems with the Service Pack. These could be hits from
people who haven't put it in yet, people who have and are looking to see
what problems others had [and yes I did that] or people who have problems.

All I can speak from is the experience I have which tells me that all
the PCs at my place of work were upgraded with no problems [over 200], I
have had no personal problems with my pc after upgrade nor have any of
my friends and work mates.

I also am a member of several computer forums and with the odd exception
there has been little negative feedback about SP2 installation.

Kind regards

Wab

Verified surveys put the figure between 8% and 30%.
Try Google over 90,000 hits on XP SP2 failure.

Testy

 

[Tony Talmage]

There will be people that experience problems. As with many things, a 100%
success rate cannot be achieved. This is why every single user that
installs SP2 backs up data files and does all important necessary
pre-upgrade tasks, just in case he falls under the few that experience
problems. Someone who performs these steps can hardly be considered
"trashed", as their important information would have been preserved; with an
hour, the machine could be restored back to how it was.

What I'm saying is that you can't go only based off of negative
statistics... a doctor stating he's successfully performed 150 liver
transplants and unsuccessfully performed 3 sounds a lot better to me than a
doctor that just says he's botched 3. If you're looking at statistics, it's
necessary to look at all statistics; you can't possibly say that the
optimistic side of the statistics is irrelevant.

 

[Bobby]

Source: my common sense.

Do you seriously think that Joe Public has the slightest idea about service
packs? These guys don't know how to update their virus definitions let alone
perform an OS upgrade.

Get real.

Bobby

 

[Plato]

I have heard many pros and cons about SP 2.
Can someone tell me if I really need to install it? Is the version that
can be downloaded from the Microsoft website , the same as the free SP2 CD
that Microsoft will provide?
For whatever it's worth, my computer runs fine.,.

Why fix what aint broke?

 

[Plato]

Do you seriously think that Joe Public has the slightest idea about service
packs? These guys don't know how to update their virus definitions let alone
perform an OS upgrade.

What sucks is that many folks are ill-advised to upgrade their OS to fix
common non-OS related problems. Which of course, just creates a mess.

 

[Testy]

I am not going by anything I was simply challenging one person who quoted a
98% success rate overall to prove it.

Testy