Setting up a home network.

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Guest

I am trying to set up a home network. Microsoft recommends using (ICS), so that only one computer is exposed to the internet. Thats where I get into trouble

My Cableing..
I have the internet to Cable modem to ICS Host computer to D-link (DI-614+) Router to Client. The Host computer has 2 NIC's. The first is into the Modem, and the 2nd is into the Router (WAN) port. The Client has one NIC connected to port 1 on the router

I have disabled all firewalls, except the XP firewall on the ICS Host adapater. The host can reach the internet, but the client cannot. Neither computer can see any shared files accept there own

I ran the Setup wizard on the Host first, then the client. No change

Help, where do I go from here

Also, The Client computer can ping itself, and both NIC's on the HOST computer. The Host computer cannot ping the client
WEIRD, but maybe thats where my error is.
 
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Chuck

I am trying to set up a home network. Microsoft recommends using (ICS), so that only one computer is exposed to the internet. Thats where I get into trouble.

My Cableing...
I have the internet to Cable modem to ICS Host computer to D-link (DI-614+) Router to Client. The Host computer has 2 NIC's. The first is into the Modem, and the 2nd is into the Router (WAN) port. The Client has one NIC connected to port 1 on the router.

I have disabled all firewalls, except the XP firewall on the ICS Host adapater. The host can reach the internet, but the client cannot. Neither computer can see any shared files accept there own.

I ran the Setup wizard on the Host first, then the client. No change.

Help, where do I go from here?

Also, The Client computer can ping itself, and both NIC's on the HOST computer. The Host computer cannot ping the client?
WEIRD, but maybe thats where my error is.
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Gmeech,

ICS includes a DHCP server, which gives out a dynamic address to its
clients. That's how the clients get the settings that let it
automatically access the internet thru ICS. You also have a DHCP
server on the router. You need to disable the NAT and DHCP functions
of the router, and let it function as a switch only.

If you're using broadband, and have a router, you would be much better
off connecting the router to the modem, and both the client and host
computers to the router. The NAT router will provide a better
firewall than ICF, and better internet sharing than ICS. ICS is OK
when you need to share a dialup connection, but sucks shit for
broadband.

Here are a couple websites which may explain this better.
http://www.cablesense.com/sharing/
http://www.homenethelp.com/connection-sharing.asp

Cheers,

Chuck
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Jim

-----Original Message-----
I am trying to set up a home network. Microsoft
Click to expand...
recommends using (ICS), so that only one computer is
exposed to the internet. Thats where I get into trouble.
My Cableing...
I have the internet to Cable modem to ICS Host computer
Click to expand...
to D-link (DI-614+) Router to Client. The Host computer
has 2 NIC's. The first is into the Modem, and the 2nd is
into the Router (WAN) port. The Client has one NIC
connected to port 1 on the router.
I have disabled all firewalls, except the XP firewall on
Click to expand...
the ICS Host adapater. The host can reach the internet,
but the client cannot. Neither computer can see any
shared files accept there own.
I ran the Setup wizard on the Host first, then the client. No change.

Help, where do I go from here?

Also, The Client computer can ping itself, and both
Click to expand...
NIC's on the HOST computer. The Host computer cannot ping
the client?
WEIRD, but maybe thats where my error is.
.
Click to expand...
Hello
I know MS does not recommend this but it is easier to run
cable modem to router(wan)then router to each puter(cat5
cable) go to Local Area Connection Properties and
install>Client For MS Network>File & Printer
Sharing>NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBios Protocol>NetBios TCP/IP
Protocol then plug the printer into the puter you wish to
use for a host then run the network wizard on it create a
floppy run it on the other puters and it should ping then
all
Hope this helps
Jim
 
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Jim

-----Original Message-----
I am trying to set up a home network. Microsoft
Click to expand...
recommends using (ICS), so that only one computer is
exposed to the internet. Thats where I get into trouble.
My Cableing...
I have the internet to Cable modem to ICS Host computer
Click to expand...
to D-link (DI-614+) Router to Client. The Host computer
has 2 NIC's. The first is into the Modem, and the 2nd is
into the Router (WAN) port. The Client has one NIC
connected to port 1 on the router.
I have disabled all firewalls, except the XP firewall on
Click to expand...
the ICS Host adapater. The host can reach the internet,
but the client cannot. Neither computer can see any
shared files accept there own.
I ran the Setup wizard on the Host first, then the client. No change.

Help, where do I go from here?

Also, The Client computer can ping itself, and both
Click to expand...
NIC's on the HOST computer. The Host computer cannot ping
the client?
WEIRD, but maybe thats where my error is.
.
Click to expand...
Hello Again
I forgot to tell you with the NWLink IPX/SPX installed
you shouldn't have to turn your firewalls off, can if you
want your router should supply the only firewall you
need, that is why MS doesn't recommend this setup for
fear of some using a router without firewall
Jim
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

I am trying to set up a home network. Microsoft recommends using (ICS), so that only one computer is exposed to the internet. Thats where I get into trouble.

My Cableing...
I have the internet to Cable modem to ICS Host computer to D-link (DI-614+) Router to Client. The Host computer has 2 NIC's. The first is into the Modem, and the 2nd is into the Router (WAN) port. The Client has one NIC connected to port 1 on the router.

I have disabled all firewalls, except the XP firewall on the ICS Host adapater. The host can reach the internet, but the client cannot. Neither computer can see any shared files accept there own.

I ran the Setup wizard on the Host first, then the client. No change.

Help, where do I go from here?

Also, The Client computer can ping itself, and both NIC's on the HOST computer. The Host computer cannot ping the client?
WEIRD, but maybe thats where my error is.
Click to expand...

You have a router, so you don't need to use ICS.

Disable ICS on the host computer. Connect one NIC of each computer to
the router. Run the Network Setup Wizard on each computer and tell it
that they connect to the Internet through a "residential gateway",
which is what the Wizard calls a router. Don't specify the "network
hub" option, which doesn't apply to your setup.

Use TCP/IP as the only protocol for both Internet access and
file/printer sharing. Disable XP's built-in firewall on both
computers -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection to the
Internet, not on a router connection. Configure any other firewall
program (Norton Internet Security, ZoneAlarm, etc) to allow access by
computers on your local area network.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Stuart Grant

You seem very knowledgeable ! Hope you can help me. I have set up a very
simple network - a laptop(XP) and a desktop(Win98se) connected by a hub and
each one with an attached printer. Internet connection is over a USB ADSL
modem plugged into the laptop (USB ADSL Modems seem to be relatively
uncommon in USA). I set up both with the Wizard; with laptop set to "This
computer connects directly to the Internet" and ICS enabled, the desktop
with "This computer connects to the Internet by another computer"
The connection works fine on the laptop but when I try OE or IE on the
desktop, I get "Unable to establish a connection".
What is wrong ?
Stuart
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Stuart Grant" said:
You seem very knowledgeable ! Hope you can help me. I have set up a very
simple network - a laptop(XP) and a desktop(Win98se) connected by a hub and
each one with an attached printer. Internet connection is over a USB ADSL
modem plugged into the laptop (USB ADSL Modems seem to be relatively
uncommon in USA). I set up both with the Wizard; with laptop set to "This
computer connects directly to the Internet" and ICS enabled, the desktop
with "This computer connects to the Internet by another computer"
The connection works fine on the laptop but when I try OE or IE on the
desktop, I get "Unable to establish a connection".
What is wrong ?
Stuart
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On the desktop, run Internet Explorer, go to Tools | Internet Options
| Connections | LAN Settings, and clear all of the boxes.

If that doesn't solve the problem, run these tests:

1. On the laptop, right click the local area network connection (not
the shared DSL connection) and click Status | Support | Details. It
should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: none
DNS Server = none

2. On the desktop, go to Start | Run | Winipcfg, select the LAN
adapter from the menu, and click More Info. It should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1

3. If #1 and #2 are right, open a command prompt window on the desktop
and enter these lines. Each one should get four replies:

ping 192.168.0.1
ping 216.239.57.99
ping www.google.com

4. If #1-#3 are right, enter these addresses in Internet Explorer on
the desktop. They should both take you to the Google web page:

http://216.239.57.99
http://www.google.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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Stuart Grant

Steve

You've been a great help. I now have both computers on the net. Thank you
very much for your time.

Stuart
 

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