Movie Maker 2 just won't work

[Guest]

I am trying to capture video from my analog camcorder. When I hit the
capture video button, the program freezes up. I tried to re-install the
program, but the Microsoft download site says it comes with SP2 (which, of
course I already have) and the wizard it puts me through auto-detects that I
already have SP2 and it won;t let me download anything. Can anyone help me
with this?

 

[John Kelly]

Hello there,

You need a capture device in order to convert your analog to digital.... Such a
device may be internal or external to your computer, or if you have a DV camera
that has the pass through function you can use that as a bridge between your
analog source and the computer.

We need to know what type of analog signal you are connecting...is it an RF or
S-VHS / VHS video out and what exactly are you connecting it too.

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[Guest]

Thanks John.
On the front of my computer (a Medion) there is a lttle flip down door which
has several ports including
An RCA port titled "Composite"
A miniplug titled "Audio"
A miniplug titled "Microphone"
an S-Video input
a couple of USB ports and another plug that I don't recognize the icon to.


The capture device - I Think is listed under "Available devices" when I
begin the capture wizard and is entitled nVidia Video Capture (Universal)

On my analog camcorde, I am plugging into a miniplug titled "Video Out" the
cable splits the mini plug into seperate RCA plugs. The yellow rca plug is
plugging into the "composite" socket on the PC.
Ironically, just for laughs, I plugged the red "Audi RCA in to the Audio
minijack and heard sound throught the pc's speakers.

I hope that's the information you need.

 

[John Kelly]

Hello,

Audio
====
OK, the fact you hear audio is not necessarily a good sign The red RCA
plug/socket connection would not carry a stereo signal through the computer.
As your computer almost certainly has stereo it sounds as though you are using
only one of the two available sockets....at this point it does not matter
whether your camera is stereo or mono. So, at least one other socket must be
for audio in on your machine. whether your camera is stereo or not, you need to
sort out the audio otherwise you will only have sound from one channel when you
play your production back...

Video
====
I don't have enough info on your machine to be able to look at its spec sheet.
The same with the camera. But, I would suggest you use the S-Video socket on
your machine rather than composite.

I would take another look at your machine or find any documentation you have so
that all of those sockets are properly identified.

You may not be able to capture full sized images with the nVidia Video Capture
(Universal), its where I started and to be honest gave up on it. I was
disappointed with the results...but that was 3yrs ago..

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[Graham Hughes]

Movie maker is designed to work with firewire connections, though some
people have been able to use it with analogue, it depends on the hardware.
You I'm afraid are in the majority who can't. Now, if you search through the
apps which were installed on your computer you may find an analoge capture
utility which you can use.
This may capture in something like mjpeg, a common analogue capture format,
and again MM cannot use this, so then you need to find a utility to convert
it to av-/wmv, this can then be used in MM.
As John says, the other option is to get an analogue to digital convertor,
more expensive but so easy to use if you buy a good one, see here for
reviews on some by canopus/miglia both well recommended and dazzle.
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/reviews.html
You can also buy internal pci cards, but the external tend to be easier to
use, less pc conflicts and no messing with the insides of your pc!!

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MVP Digital Media
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[Guest]

Thanks again. Although, I'm not at all convinced that the program itself
isn't messed up due to the locking up issue. Is there a way to re-install
Movie Maker?

 

[Guest]

I used ZIO CameraMate and captured more than 30 gig of analog video but now
ZIO and Nero both freeze after 30-60 frames. I suspect audio codec
corruption. Moviemaker captures video okay but no audio, produces large
WMTE6.tmp file, then freezes after capture as it processes files. Am I able
to reload codecs?

 

[John Kelly]

Hello WarNPeace (Love the name)

It depends on exactly what you are doing when the program freezes.

It is possible that a codec is to blame but unlike Movie Maker Nero is quite
good in that area (I have never had a problem with Nero in fact)

I suspect that your problem is going to be related to hard drive space
(amount free) rather than a codec issue. 30GB is quite a large file and that
in itself is not an issue. I have also captured large files 3 and 4 hr VHS
tapes converted to DV-AVI) The problem will occur when the program tries to
create its temporary files. There can be several of these in use at any one
time and they can be as large as the source file. If you do not have enough
space for these temp files the program will almost certainly fail.

It is very easy tto accumulate "temporary" files without realising and
searching for them can be a real pain....but there is a free solution you
can use...go to my website and download the program called Delete Dross.
Operation is obvious and simple and once you have given it a search
parameter it does not forget it.....so the method for you would be ...

1) Select the hard drive,
2) Add a new search parameter using this text... WMTE*.tmp
3) Select all search patterns you want to use
4) Start the search.

By the time you have blinked you will be presented with a list of files that
match the search criteria. Now, once you are familiar with what you are
doing you will be able to click the option SELECT ALL and then DELETE.
Before you do that though I strongly advice that you look at each file in
the list and ask the question "Do I really want to delete this". The reason
is that once you click DELETE they will be gone for good, they will NOT go
into the recycle bin (a feature that is self defeating I always
feel)...Fact, the files can be retrieved but you will be very lucky if you
retrieve all of them.

Anyway, using the program may result in a large amount of space being freed
up, and thats the object of the exercise. I wrote the program because I am a
little bit of a control freak and being a programmer results in large
amounts of files being created in the compiling of some software....I tried
using the Microsft search feature and grue tired of having to re-enter a
search parameter and even then its speed of search was less than
breathtaking!!! So I wrote my own search and kill program..Delete Dross

Pleased to see the access to the web site was sorted OK.

Hope that helps.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

 

[Guest]

Hello John,
I really appreciate all the time you took to reply to my problem, although I
must apologize for being so brief and misleading in stating the problem. I
wasn't sure if it was okay to post, perhaps in the wrong subject.

First of all, I still have 129 gig hard drive available of 233 total. Also,
I meant a total of 30+ gig that cover 26 files, large and small. The largest
is just over 4 gig.

When Zeo CameraMate with Zeo ProPix DVD software failed in the first few
seconds of the capture, I tried Nero Express 3 with identical results - no
audio and video froze at maybe 60 frames. Win Movie Maker did not freeze,
but no audio was captured.

I restored my system to the last date that capture worked successfully, but
that didn't help either. I am able to use both Zeo and Nero to burn the
video that was captured before the problem began and the result on DVD is
really good. I notice codecs have so many little dll's and other routines so
if a codec is corrupted, perhaps it isn't even used in the burn process.

Sometime today I will download your software and clean up some files. I'll
report again after that. Again, thanks!
Warren

 

[Guest]

John, I didn't describe my setup completely. The CameraMate converts the
analog video to digital. The connection from camera is RCA, from the
converter to PC is USB. My DV camera doesn't have passthru capability.
Thanks.

 

[John Kelly]

Hello,

OK, thats one of the problems then Movie Maker is designed to capture
via a firewire interface. This interface carries a lot of data that USB does
not as well as being capable of carrying data at a sustained rate, something
USB does not do well.

To capture the audio you need to bypass the converter and send the audio
direct to your "Line-IN" and configure Movie Maker to look at that location
to get the signal.

Many people who have none the less captured in a still similar to you
came unstuck when the upgraded to SP2. The reason for that is that SP2
conforms more properly to international standards....one of those standards
is the firewire system.

On the information given it seems you need a better capture
device....unless there is something else you wish to add.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

 

[Guest]

Thanks again, John. It looks like I have several things to do to get this
solved. Funny that it worked so well long after SP2 had been installed.
Since my line-in does not accept RCA audio L & R then I need to do so
shopping for a different analog capture device. Oh well. I spent 8+ hours a
day for nearly 40 years on fun things like this so I'll consider it an
opportunity. I chose WarNPeace because I didn't like wornout or worndown
(all sound likes for Warren).

 

[John Kelly]

Hello,

Why don't you just buy a converter plug?...they are a lot cheaper than
buying a new card.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

 

[Guest]

Hi John Kelly,
I found a converter cable - RCA to line-in - in my stuff and finally managed
to capture the audio. The program freeze was resolved by a ZEO provided
driver but it didn't resolve the no-audio problem. I don't seem to have a
line-in port on my PC so used the microphone connection. The minijack ports
are sound out (2) and microphone. I think I'm in business now thanks to you.

 

[John Kelly]

Hello,

Well I am pleased you have moved forward.

Its something of a suprise to hear that you do not have a Line-In socket
an yet you have two line-out. Out of interest are the line out individually
Stereo or is one the left and the other the right speaker??

Anyway, pleased that you found a solution.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

Its no Lie, I am not an Instant Expert

 

[Guest]

Hello John Kelly,
I checked with the fellow who put this PC together and he said the socket
marked with a microphone is the Line-In. Also, the two audio outputs are
both stereo. Perhaps there could be a need for two of them.

Thanks again,
warnpeace

 

[John Kelly]

Oh ok then..

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
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On the day Terrorists stike in London

 

[Guest]

Hello John Kelly,
I nearly missed your footnote but then saw the shocking news on Fox. Please
accept my condolences (I assume you are in the UK). My wife and I were
privileged to use the underground on a recent visit so the scenes strike
home. My family roots are there - my father was born in Nebraska but spent
some years in London and Chesterfield after his father inherited the family
bakery (over 100 years ago). I apologize for this post in a technical area,
but I haven't yet learned my way around.
Best regards,
Warren Smith

 

[Rach]

Same here, John. Your American cousins are thinking of you all!

Rach

 

[John Kelly]

In 1974. I rushed my 6 month pregnant wife out of a bar because I believed a
bomb was in there.....it blew up killed a lot of people and did some damage
to me (IRA).....that same damage resulted in the wife and I flying home 2
days early prior to 9/11 we were going to be shown around Tower 1 on one of
the remaining days we were supposed to be there (a friend used to work
there)...we had been staying in the Marriot part of the World Trade Centre.
Today our oldest son mentioned above decided not to go into work. He is the
boss. The tube train he would have been on was one of those that had a bomb
in it. He phoned us just after the event to say he was at home etc. Someone
is watching over us.

The price of freedom is always high

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org