How to turn off the "File System Real-time Protection" in Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition?

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Dmitriy Kopnichev

I have had the ability to turn it off for half a year. I can stop the
Symantec Antivirus Client Service also.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

Our enterprise is about 200 computers, but only I and several other people
use computers actively, therefore only we notice the slowing down.
The site is a MosMap program download site. The MosMap program itself slows
down.
 
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Phil Weldon

Sorry, another typo. The first sentenced should read "I use Windows 2000
Professional and Windows 2000 Professional Server..." Windows 2000
Professional is the second Windows NT based Microsoft operating system,
preceeding Windows 2000 XP. The two operating systems are similar, and the
"Windows XP Professional Resource Kit" should help answer your questions
about performance monitoring and analysis. Unfortunately the cost is about
$70 US, but it is THE book that should be provided as the manual with
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Operating system... it's just unbundled to
save the average user the extra money.

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Phil Weldon

Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude certain
file types from scanning?

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Dmitriy Kopnichev

I have Windows 2000 Professional Resource Kit.
Phil Weldon said:
Sorry, another typo. The first sentenced should read "I use Windows 2000
Professional and Windows 2000 Professional Server..." Windows 2000
Professional is the second Windows NT based Microsoft operating system,
preceeding Windows 2000 XP. The two operating systems are similar, and the
"Windows XP Professional Resource Kit" should help answer your questions
about performance monitoring and analysis. Unfortunately the cost is about
$70 US, but it is THE book that should be provided as the manual with
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Operating system... it's just unbundled to
save the average user the extra money.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


MHz
 
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David Candy

NT 3.1, NT3.51, NT4, NT5, NT5.1
NT started at 3.1 cause windows was up to 3.1 at the time.
 
D

David Candy

You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

"data" and "setting" are different!

Encarta: data - factual information: information, often in the form of facts
or figures obtained from experiments or surveys, used as a basis for making
calculations or drawing conclusions.
The setting is on my own computer (which however is in a corporate network).
How would you prove that "intent" was "to cause impairment"?
What law did you quote?
You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"
 
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Bill Sanderson

Nav corporate really locks things down quite well at the workstation level.
All the changes have to happen in the admin console, and I've never
experimented with how granular the options are for opening things up.

However, I've also never had this kind of complaint. Presently, I've only
got a few dozen client machines running the version, but I've worked with
places that had several hundred--and I don't think the experience Dmitriy is
having is at all typical.
 
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cquirke (MVP Win9x)

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:23:07 +0400, "Dmitriy Kopnichev"
A virus can't do much if a Windows XP Pro is logged on with user rights.

Yeah, right. Sorry to sound sarcastic, but I've read far too many /kb
about escalation beyond intended rights (as well as exploits that
attain system rights or even raw hardware access a la Witty) to put
any faith in that whatsoever.

I'd rather be able to to see decent info about files to help me assess
risk - which is hidden in XP Home in accounts set to anything other
than full admin rights - than rely on that stuff to keep me safe!


-------------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -
Running Windows-based av to kill active malware is like striking
a match to see if what you are standing in is water or petrol.
 
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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Scanning a file takes a second, but if there are 700 of 1MB files to be
moved to another folder, it'll take additional 700 seconds=10 minutes and 16
seconds! Moving 700 of 1MB files to another folder takes 5 seconds without
the "Real-time protection"!
 
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David Candy

NSW law. In every company I've worked for most employees would be sacked for what you want to do. In the same situation as you I was a programmer and the IT dept left us alone (no point picking a fight with the other compter dept) but the non computer staff they didn't. I turned mine off (it does raise an alarm if anyone looks).

These days I wouldn't turn it off cause I would get sacked. And I would report anyone who did because I would have a duty of care to the company.

The point is your admin has set a policy. There is probably no way around it (or symantec are incompentent). And you shouldn't be trying.

If you are allowed to do what you want. Go to the admin and get him to login and do it yourself. It will be in the manual.

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Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
"data" and "setting" are different!

Encarta: data - factual information: information, often in the form of facts
or figures obtained from experiments or surveys, used as a basis for making
calculations or drawing conclusions.
The setting is on my own computer (which however is in a corporate network).
How would you prove that "intent" was "to cause impairment"?
What law did you quote?
You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


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Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
It's not possible.
 
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Phil Weldon

What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"
 
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David Candy

Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

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Phil Weldon said:
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


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Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
It's not possible.
 
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Bill Sanderson

C'mon David--Yank yes--and perhaps the spelling issue is justified, but I
don't get the other two accusations.

You've quoted NSW law for Dmitriy, who is probably in Moscow, RU. Although
there might be similar strictures on his actions, there might not be.
Surely you aren't suggesting that Dmitriy was intentionally trying to draw
you into a violation of your local laws?

The war criminal remark is beyond the pale. You know nothing of Phil
Weldon's background and it is irrelevant to the discussion here. I think
Phil's message was somewhat intemperate, but yours was more so. What is it
about this relatively anonymous medium of exchange that allows us to spout
off in ways we wouldn't in person? Or maybe we would, and then smile and
shake hands and go off and have a beer afterwards?--harder for that to
happen here, but it should.

Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

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Phil Weldon said:
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


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Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
It's not possible.
 
P

Phil Weldon

So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


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Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
It's not possible.
 
D

David Candy

Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98 user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

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Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
P

Phil Weldon

Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 

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