How to turn off the "File System Real-time Protection" in Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition?

D

David Candy

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

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Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

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Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

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Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

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Phil Weldon said:
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
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For communication,
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You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude certain
file types from scanning?

--
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B

Bill Sanderson

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

He also said:

The administrator doesn't like me and doesn't know how to turn off the
mandatory "File System Real-time Protection" for my computer. The
administrator who turned on doesn't work here anymore.

This implied to me that he at least asked, and that the Admin might be
interested in hearing how to do the job. Maybe I should actually look that
up!

On balance, I'm inclined to agree with you that we've given Dmitriy
sufficient help--this is a bit like the threads in Work_remotely where folks
want to know how to run Remote Desktop from their work locations to talk to
their home machines when the work location has a firewall or proxy setup.
There's a limit to how much precise information I'm willing to impart
basically to help somebody do an end run around their admin--regardless of
how much they assure us that the admins don't care, or their motivations are
pure, or whatever....

I'd rather solve the 5x performance hit, however, but I also tire of being
Symantec's tech support operation--that isn't what we are here for either,
and although Symantec's KB is pretty good, I do wish they'd provide their
own peer support forum--darn near everybody else does.
 
P

Phil Weldon

Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
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Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
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For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
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Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.
spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
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D

David Candy

Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than
spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
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P

Phil Weldon

Back to the performance hit. How much physical memory does your system
have?

Just for an experiment, and granted that most of the system, program and
data are very different from yours, I ran the following -

Using Norton Antivirus 2003 (latest definitions and updates)
Dell notbook with 600 MHz mobile Celeron (256 Kbyte L2 cache)
60 Gbyte 4200 rpm hard drive
256 Mbyte SDRAM

using the 'Framework SDK' folder in Microsoft Visual Studio .NET (7,714
files, 1591 folders, 182 Mbytes Data)

the CPU time utilized for scanning by NAVW32.exe was 1 minute 57 seconds,
and the bottle neck was the relatively slow hard drive.

At least the dataset seems close to yours. All this leads me to think you
have some performance bottle neck other than the processing time required by
the NAV scan.
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P

Phil Weldon

As I said, unsupported, untrue, inflamatory, and actionable. And, well, why
don't you confine yourself to another, more appropriate forum?

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Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than
spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
D

David Candy

Well Mr (e-mail address removed) (just thought I'd let the spam harvesters harvest) I've been here for years, you occasionally for 18 months or so. How about you go.

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Phil Weldon said:
As I said, unsupported, untrue, inflamatory, and actionable. And, well, why
don't you confine yourself to another, more appropriate forum?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
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Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law'
you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where
Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised
modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

My system has 256 MB of (administrator said, faster) physical memory. My CPU
is P4-1800. My hard drive is 7200 rpm.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

What "rules, which I brake" are you talking about?
Our company is an investment company. I'm an investment analyst. The
administrator is threatening my and so company's work by slowing it down!
Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than
spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
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For communication,
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D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

David! You are just a dastard! Phil could smash your nose if you were near
him!
Well Mr (e-mail address removed) (just thought I'd let the spam harvesters
harvest) I've been here for years, you occasionally for 18 months or so. How
about you go.

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Phil Weldon said:
As I said, unsupported, untrue, inflamatory, and actionable. And, well, why
don't you confine yourself to another, more appropriate forum?

--
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For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
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Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

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Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
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For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?



Source:

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from,
and offence"
or
card
or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised
modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
D

David Candy

Talk to management then. I sympathise. But XP is MIL strength security. You solution is to get the policy changed.

Log on as a local user that may get around it.

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Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
What "rules, which I brake" are you talking about?
Our company is an investment company. I'm an investment analyst. The
administrator is threatening my and so company's work by slowing it down!
Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

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Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
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Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law'
you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where
Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised
modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
P

Phil Weldon

And this too is malicious and actionable.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Well Mr (e-mail address removed) (just thought I'd let the spam harvesters
harvest) I've been here for years, you occasionally for 18 months or so. How
about you go.

--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
As I said, unsupported, untrue, inflamatory, and actionable. And, well, why
don't you confine yourself to another, more appropriate forum?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?



Source:

--
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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
from,
and offence"
or
card
or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised
modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
D

David Candy

Piss off SFB

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Phil Weldon said:
And this too is malicious and actionable.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Well Mr (e-mail address removed) (just thought I'd let the spam harvesters
harvest) I've been here for years, you occasionally for 18 months or so. How
about you go.

--
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And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
As I said, unsupported, untrue, inflamatory, and actionable. And, well, why
don't you confine yourself to another, more appropriate forum?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?


Dmitriy Kopnichev wrote:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks
questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is
engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the
headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from,
and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law'
you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where
Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than
spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence"
or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit
card
or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised
modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

I'm logged on as a local user. I installed the Antivirus by myself. I worked
with "File System Real-time Protection" turned off for 4,5 years and our
company didn't have any problems because of my computer!
Let me see, can't spell gaol, doesn't understand ethics by your support of
someone breaking rules and threatening his company's infrastructure, and you
are on pacific time with a US ISP so probably a yank, if so you bear
collective responsibility for the war crime in Iraq - pay taxes to burn
children to death do you. Have you used your right to bear arms to change to
a non criminal government. War criminal fits. It certainly defamatory but
the defence of truth will suffice I think and make it non actionable. You
would certainly make it through the jury stage of a trial but it would be
tossed out at the judge stage of the trial (which is the main part).

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Yes, unsupported:

A. You refered to Dmitriy Kopnichev with the statement "You know that what
you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you can't spell) time. If I
help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop trying to act
illegally." Demonstrably untrue as you and Dmitriy Kopnichev live and work
in completely different countries with unrelated legal systems.


B. You referred to me as "Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded,
war criminal yank". That statement is at best that is unsupported and
reckless; at worst defamatory and actionable.


--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."

Unsupported?


Dmitriy said:
Yes. He set the restriction. But I want to overcome it.
Source:

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http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
Free with your unsupported accusations aren't you. On balance, I'd say
you're not fitted to be a gate-keeper.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Well Dimitry been trying to get round his admin for years. He asks questions
here that only his admin knows the answer too. He did it when he was a 98
user, a ME user, and now as an XP user. He usually withholds as much
information as possible. This is the first time he's admitted he is engaging
in unethical behaviour though I've suspected for years.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
Phil Weldon said:
So far, your posts are inappropriate for any forum listed in the headers.
Your thinking is insular, but, then, that is to be expected.

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


Another ethically challenged, spelling retarded, war criminal yank.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
What the hell are you talking about, and where are you talking from, and
what possible connection is there between whatever system of 'law' you're
babbling about have with whatever system of law is in effect where Dmitriy
works? And a hell of a lot more people spell jail correctly than
spell
it
alternately goal. Do you spell fish 'ghoti' also?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."


You know that what you want is illegal with 5 years gaol (jail if you
can't
spell) time. If I help I'm conspiring with you. Take the hint and stop
trying to act illegally.

Ten year prison sentences will apply to the "unauthorised modification
of data with intent to cause impairment" and the "unauthorised
impairment of electronic communication". Meanwhile, a person found
guilty of "possessing data with intent to commit a computer offence" or
the "producing, supplying or obtaining data with intent to commit a
computer offence" faces up to three years in prison.=20

Up to two years in prison awaits anyone found guilty of "unauthorised
access to or modification of restricted data in a computer" or the
"unauthorised impairment of data held in computer disk, credit card or
other device".=20

Turning off virus checking that is enforced is "unauthorised modification
of data [ie the setting] with intent to cause impairment"


--
----------------------------------------------------------
And the band played ....
http://www.livejournal.com/users/aldon/74121.html
It's not possible.
Is it possible for you at your level of system access to exclude
certain
file types from scanning?

--
Phil Weldon, pweldonatmindjumpdotcom
For communication,
replace "at" with the 'at sign'
replace "mindjump" with "mindspring."
replace "dot" with "."
 
P

Phil Weldon

Dmitriy, what I was trying to point out is that normal operation of a Norton
AntiVirus scan should not be a bottle neck; if 7,714 files contining 182
Mbytes of data require only 1 minute 57 seconds with a Celeron 600, then you
should consider looking for some other bottleneck; page file thrashing, for
example that could be analyzed with 'Task Manager'.

What exactly is the task that requires 5 X the time with NAV as without NAV?
Your CPU should outperform the Celeron 600 mobile by about 3 times (if your
Pentium 4 is a Northwood.) If you are just transfering from one drive to
another within the same system, then 200 Mbytes of data in 7000 files would
take ~ 10 seconds without accounting for file overhead. If that is the
case, then 40 seconds CPU time used for scanning would increase the task
time by five. But that can't be the case, so the bottleneck is elsewhere.

--
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D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

Yes. 7,714 files containing 182 Mbytes of data require only 1 minute 57
seconds, but moving them to another folder on the same disk takes about 10
seconds without the "Real-time protection"! This is 13 times slowing down!
Also, what is the point to check files (while moving) which already have
been checked?
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

I have actively used my computer for 5 years without the "Real-time
protection" and didn't have problems with viruses. Does the protection
against viruses (which I catch without the Real-time protection) worth the
slowing down?
 
P

Phil Weldon

Perhaps you need to more thoroughly explain what it is that you are trying
to do; certainly not moving a set of files from one folder to another;
moving from one folder to another takes almost no time at all, nor are the
files checked by NAV, because the data in the files themselves are not
moved, the only changes are in the file management records on the volume,
NOT in the data nor are the data repositioned, so NAV is not invoked.
Moving files from one drive to another is a completely different operation.
Additionaly, the 1 minute 57 second CPU usage for a NAV scan is with a
Celeron 600 mobile, NOT a Pentium 4 1.8, for which a similar task would use
more like 40 seconds. If your task is repetitive enough for 20 or 30
seconds delay in transfering the same 7,000 files and 200 Mbytes of data a
problem, then perhaps there should be a completely different way of doing
it. If the transfer is to a CD-ROM, for example, then 20 or 30 seconds is
hardly more than the time necessary to remove the recorded disk and insert a
blank disk.

--
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D

David Candy

You've been told twice, this is the third time, it's 700 approx 1 mb files to CD-Rom
 

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