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I agree with you
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kurttrail
mikesg said:
Remember, Nazis were nationalists too!
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Alias
mikesg said:
Oh, are you saying that Bush isn't in charge and had nothing to do with
the Patriot Act.
Surprise, surprise.
The apostrophe would not make sense before or after the "s".
Of course, that was a typo.
No, as I just stated, it was a typo.
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kurttrail
J. D. B. said:
Nice effective troll! Good Job!
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Steve N.
MAP said:
LOL! Oh man, you're scaring me!
Steve N.
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Leythos
mikesg.1zgtya@no- said:
I would say "Our corporations and stock holders" have shot us in the
Foot.
As a small business owner I don't have a chance to compete unless I
offer services that can be afforded by myself and my customers. When
working with customers in your same geographical area it's fairly easy
to keep all wages, costs, sales on the same level as everyone around
you. When you have to compete with the WalMarts and companies that
"Outsource" to areas outside your geographical area, well, they drive
down the sales prices to a point that local companies can't compete and
then go out of business.
To give you an idea, we can provide remote management of networks
anywhere in the world right now, and do as well as any other company in
the world, better I would like to think. Most of our business comes from
places within 3 states of our location - as most of those companies have
worked with the "Off-Shore" support groups that read from scripts, don't
think outside the box, and have no means to get onsite in a reasonable
time (or they send some noob with no skill because they use the lowest
bidder). At the same time, we talk with potential customers that have
not been burned by the above and want a rate of $20/hr for service - so
we turn them away.
At some point the field, wages and sales, will level out around the
world, it's already happening in India. First comes lower wages, which
means higher profits/shares, then less buying power for your own
geographical area, then wages creep up around the world, profit starts
to slip, they move to another area of cheap labour, repeat, later, it
all levels out because they can't keep the same margin, so they have to
lower the sale cost or increase wages or lower profit - or fire the
board for not having enough ethics to accept a lower profit margin while
still helping the community (wages) that got it started and made it what
it is today.
And most will agree with you, the intelligent ones, that it's not a
personal thing - it's about Corporate/Share Holder greed. If they can
get a call center to follow a script and handle 90% of the BS calls,
then they make a profit as people won't show their displeasure by buying
some other vendors products.
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ANONYMOUS
That is why we have a mess anywhere a yank went! Germany was divided
for nearly 50 years (East and West Germany)! Iraq will never have a
piece as long as Americans are in charge of the World peace!. I won't
be surprised if Iraq is also divided into Kurdish, Sunnis and Shias'
land! This means war in perpetuity! Constant demand for American
weapons of mass destruction! More jobs for Amricans unless this too is
outsourced!
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ANONYMOUS
Don't worry. OXFAM will come to your rescue when you are starving!
Muslims will also help you provided you convert yourself to their
religion like christians/missionaries did to the population of ex
colonies!
History always repeats itself. What you did to them comes to haunt you
in later life!
Long live indians and chinese workers. I can now afford to have 5 PCs
and 6 laptops which was not possible when Americans were making them.
Muslims will also help you provided you convert yourself to their
religion like christians/missionaries did to the population of ex
colonies!
History always repeats itself. What you did to them comes to haunt you
in later life!
Long live indians and chinese workers. I can now afford to have 5 PCs
and 6 laptops which was not possible when Americans were making them.
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ANONYMOUS
You are a typical american who doesn't know what is going on on this
planet. When Bush came to power, he didn't know there was a country
called China because he had never travelled outside USA. In fact he
didn't even have a passport!
Perhaps, you should travel a lot instead of bombing peasants who are
content with what they have have. You are trying to impose your will on
them and forcing them to change so that they can understand you. How
about you lot try to understand them?
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Kerry Brown
ANONYMOUS said:
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How is "Great" Britain under
Tony Blair any different?
Kerry
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ANONYMOUS
Great Britain is doing very well indeed. The only mistake Tony Blair
made was to follow George Bush blindly. British econony is at its
strongest in the last 30 years or so. Employers can't find enough
workers to do certain skilled jobs. This is partly due to previous
conservative party not invested enough in education and training. This
is being corrected under Tony blair.
Tony blair is not popular at present because of his stance towards Iraq
and his affiliation with George Bush. He did very well when he
supported Bill Clinton.
Regards,
George, George, George's a Belfast boy! The legend has been burried
today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4493898.stm
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Incognitus
Jitendra said:
I was absolutely positive your typing needed improvement, you've already
improved.
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Kerry Brown
ANONYMOUS said:
LOL I wasn't talking about the economy. Neither was your previous post.
Kerry
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ANONYMOUS
You asked:
What do you expect me to write about? Do you expect me to read your
mind? I might be good at solving IT problems but you can't expect me to
be good at reading people's minds as well.
Do you have a specific question about Tony Blair and when he is expected
to retire? If not then let us move on from this thread which has
nothing to do with General WindowsXP.
What do you expect me to write about? Do you expect me to read your
mind? I might be good at solving IT problems but you can't expect me to
be good at reading people's minds as well.
Do you have a specific question about Tony Blair and when he is expected
to retire? If not then let us move on from this thread which has
nothing to do with General WindowsXP.
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Max Wachtel
(e-mail address removed) AKA ANONYMOUS on 12/3/2005 in
If we hadn't been in Germany,you would be speaking German.
This East/West "thing" has been going on for over a thousand years now.
Isn't it time we stepped in and finished it?
Don't even get me started on the Kurds. They deserve their own homeland.
Seems that when the Europeans divided up the east after WWI they used a
straight-edge instead of looking at the ethnic makeup of the population.
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If we hadn't been in Germany,you would be speaking German.
This East/West "thing" has been going on for over a thousand years now.
Isn't it time we stepped in and finished it?
Don't even get me started on the Kurds. They deserve their own homeland.
Seems that when the Europeans divided up the east after WWI they used a
straight-edge instead of looking at the ethnic makeup of the population.
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jonah
? This some sort of reference to Country Bumpkins or similar insult?
Please enlighten me I am intrigued.
Jonah
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Winux P
: Had to reload XP on a laptop today. It would not take my license code
: (I've loaded Linux on it, then back to Windows, then.....well you get
: the picture) so I had to call them. A woman on the phone answered.
: Said her name was "Dorothy" and she had an Indian accent. This is the
: second time I've called a company, had the call shipped to India, and
: the person on the phone used an American name. I think these companies
: like Microsoft know we hate these Indian/overseas call centers so they
: think they can fool us into acceptance by having these people use
: American names. Well anyone with a brain knows they are not Americans
: on the phone. You can tell by all the static on the line and sometimes
: the systems on their end are very slow in responding. Hey Microsoft, if
: you want Americans to buy your expensive operating systems and
: applications, then stop shipping the jobs overseas.
After voting Pres. G. W. Bush Jr. a second term, the whole world thinks
Americans are stupid. It's the premise MS is most probably acting on. Anyway
J.D.B it is the U.S pushing for the (double speak) level playing field, free
market, free world, democracy everywhere. If you disagree, you'll get
annihilated, guess MS support goes offshore then. Just don't feel ambivalent
if you get a chance to pirate MS software, then call India for activation
and support, you'll feel better for it.
- Winux P
In Philosophy, two wrongs don't make a right. In Mathematics two negatives
make a positive.
I think maths is more precise.
: (I've loaded Linux on it, then back to Windows, then.....well you get
: the picture) so I had to call them. A woman on the phone answered.
: Said her name was "Dorothy" and she had an Indian accent. This is the
: second time I've called a company, had the call shipped to India, and
: the person on the phone used an American name. I think these companies
: like Microsoft know we hate these Indian/overseas call centers so they
: think they can fool us into acceptance by having these people use
: American names. Well anyone with a brain knows they are not Americans
: on the phone. You can tell by all the static on the line and sometimes
: the systems on their end are very slow in responding. Hey Microsoft, if
: you want Americans to buy your expensive operating systems and
: applications, then stop shipping the jobs overseas.
After voting Pres. G. W. Bush Jr. a second term, the whole world thinks
Americans are stupid. It's the premise MS is most probably acting on. Anyway
J.D.B it is the U.S pushing for the (double speak) level playing field, free
market, free world, democracy everywhere. If you disagree, you'll get
annihilated, guess MS support goes offshore then. Just don't feel ambivalent
if you get a chance to pirate MS software, then call India for activation
and support, you'll feel better for it.
- Winux P
In Philosophy, two wrongs don't make a right. In Mathematics two negatives
make a positive.
I think maths is more precise.
A
Alias
Winux said:
In English grammar, two negatives make a positive. "He isn't doing
nothing", for example ;-)
Alias
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Tom [Pepper] Willett
None of your crap has anything to do with this newsgroup. Do you have
double standards? Or, do you consider this your private chat group?
|
| You asked:
|
| > >> Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How is "Great" Britain
| > >> under Tony Blair any different?
|
| What do you expect me to write about? Do you expect me to read your
| mind? I might be good at solving IT problems but you can't expect me to
| be good at reading people's minds as well.
|
| Do you have a specific question about Tony Blair and when he is expected
| to retire? If not then let us move on from this thread which has
| nothing to do with General WindowsXP.
|
|
|
|
|
| Kerry Brown wrote:
| >
| > ANONYMOUS wrote:
| > >> Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How is "Great" Britain
| > >> under Tony Blair any different?
| > >>
| > >
| > > Great Britain is doing very well indeed. The only mistake Tony Blair
| > > made was to follow George Bush blindly. British econony is at its
| > > strongest in the last 30 years or so. Employers can't find enough
| > > workers to do certain skilled jobs. This is partly due to previous
| > > conservative party not invested enough in education and training.
| > > This is being corrected under Tony blair.
| > >
| > > Tony blair is not popular at present because of his stance towards
| > > Iraq and his affiliation with George Bush. He did very well when he
| > > supported Bill Clinton.
| >
| > LOL I wasn't talking about the economy. Neither was your previous post.
| >
| > Kerry
| >
| > >
| > > Regards,
| > > George, George, George's a Belfast boy! The legend has been burried
| > > today:
| > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4493898.stm
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > Kerry Brown wrote:
| > >>
| > >> ANONYMOUS wrote:
| > >>>> I am not pro Bush nor am I against everything he has done, but he
| > >>>> hasn't bombed me yet so I can't speak on that part.
| > >>>>
| > >>>
| > >>> You are a typical american who doesn't know what is going on on this
| > >>> planet. When Bush came to power, he didn't know there was a country
| > >>> called China because he had never travelled outside USA. In fact he
| > >>> didn't even have a passport!
| > >>>
| > >>> Perhaps, you should travel a lot instead of bombing peasants who are
| > >>> content with what they have have. You are trying to impose your
| > >>> will on them and forcing them to change so that they can understand
| > >>> you. How about you lot try to understand them?
| > >>>
| > >>
| > >> Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How is "Great" Britain
| > >> under Tony Blair any different?
| > >>
| > >> Kerry
double standards? Or, do you consider this your private chat group?
|
| You asked:
|
| > >> Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How is "Great" Britain
| > >> under Tony Blair any different?
|
| What do you expect me to write about? Do you expect me to read your
| mind? I might be good at solving IT problems but you can't expect me to
| be good at reading people's minds as well.
|
| Do you have a specific question about Tony Blair and when he is expected
| to retire? If not then let us move on from this thread which has
| nothing to do with General WindowsXP.
|
|
|
|
|
| Kerry Brown wrote:
| >
| > ANONYMOUS wrote:
| > >> Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How is "Great" Britain
| > >> under Tony Blair any different?
| > >>
| > >
| > > Great Britain is doing very well indeed. The only mistake Tony Blair
| > > made was to follow George Bush blindly. British econony is at its
| > > strongest in the last 30 years or so. Employers can't find enough
| > > workers to do certain skilled jobs. This is partly due to previous
| > > conservative party not invested enough in education and training.
| > > This is being corrected under Tony blair.
| > >
| > > Tony blair is not popular at present because of his stance towards
| > > Iraq and his affiliation with George Bush. He did very well when he
| > > supported Bill Clinton.
| >
| > LOL I wasn't talking about the economy. Neither was your previous post.
| >
| > Kerry
| >
| > >
| > > Regards,
| > > George, George, George's a Belfast boy! The legend has been burried
| > > today:
| > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4493898.stm
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > Kerry Brown wrote:
| > >>
| > >> ANONYMOUS wrote:
| > >>>> I am not pro Bush nor am I against everything he has done, but he
| > >>>> hasn't bombed me yet so I can't speak on that part.
| > >>>>
| > >>>
| > >>> You are a typical american who doesn't know what is going on on this
| > >>> planet. When Bush came to power, he didn't know there was a country
| > >>> called China because he had never travelled outside USA. In fact he
| > >>> didn't even have a passport!
| > >>>
| > >>> Perhaps, you should travel a lot instead of bombing peasants who are
| > >>> content with what they have have. You are trying to impose your
| > >>> will on them and forcing them to change so that they can understand
| > >>> you. How about you lot try to understand them?
| > >>>
| > >>
| > >> Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How is "Great" Britain
| > >> under Tony Blair any different?
| > >>
| > >> Kerry
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jonah
Dear All Frustrated People
This is not the question of Indian or American. But skilled and the unskiled
one. America is also prividing such foolish help centres. The example is
Macromedia. A month back i called Macromedia product help center and
finsihed with disappointment. This was a direct product help center. I was
surprised by
theier product knowledge. Whoops u can get better people in India.
I m from India and ofcourse i understand your problem. When some1 needs help
and the other end is just with a blank mind. But there is nothing to blame
India.
I think this is the habit of Americans of blaming the world over. Sometimes
they blame China then Iraq, then India then Russia....and so on. This is true
dear Aliens will land first on America.
Pls get rid of this and come positive with the world.
Whtever is happening is coz of the business profits in USA so blame yr
people not India.
Hi Jitendramr,
The problem is not one of Indian, Chinese or whatever it is a question
of the quality of service offered which you found was pathetic and the
loss of jobs. Its the coporations most of us are really angry with not
the "support centres" wherever they are. It is insulting to have been
promised support by a product manufactorer then finding that "support"
involves hours of wasted time talking to somebody who knows very very
little about the product in question beyond what is on the script in
front of them. It was bad enough when this rigmarole involved in
country support centres but now to add insult to injury they outsource
the support elsewhere sacking local workers and saving money to con
the consumer that they do indeed provide support.
Good for you guys if you get the jobs coming your way from outsoucing,
but don't expect a positive attidude we do not like being cheated
especially not by corporate tosspots.
Personally I think the apalling quality of service will kill the
outsourcing of support sooner rather than later, as people in general
become more PC savvy they will learn that "Free and Cheap mean Crap
with regard to hardware and software and that "support" means
absolutley nothing unless they provide the CEOs phone number.
Consumers are ulitmately in charge and the market always corrects
itself in the end, in other words Google will eventually rule the
world
You get what you pay for in all things.
Jonah