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[Richard Urban [MVP]]

Back when Windows 95 came out I bought a "full install" CD for $199.00 A
month later I bought a "full install" of OS/2 for, guess what, $299.95.

I also bought NT 3.51 full install for $299.95.

I purchased Windows 98 Full install for - surprise, $199.00 - same as Win95.

I then bought NT 4.0 for WOW, $299.95 - same price as NT 3.51.

What does Windows XP Home - Full install cost NOW. Did I hear $199.95. You
are right! Same as Win95 and Win98 full installs.

Windows 2000 Full Install = $299.95

What about a full install of Windows XP Professional? Yep, $299.95 right
where all previous versions of an NT based operating system have always
been.

Do you get what I am saying? They haven't raised their prices for over 10
years.

Microsoft can raise the price, as far as I am concerned. They are due for
an increase and deserve it - IMHO! And I, for one, will not bitch about
paying another $299,00 for a full install of Windows Vista (or whatever it
comes out as).


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Richard Urban
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Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[Richard Urban [MVP]]

God help us - please!

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"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[Alias]

Kurt, you're a well-known malcontent. Your only saving grace is that you
occasionally provide a laugh. Other than that, I would venture to say that
most readers of this newsgroup have either filtered you into oblivion or
dismissed you as yet another belly-acher, albeit a more
obsessive-compulsive one.

Ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem. Tsk, tsk.

 

[Alias]

Nonsense. You get what you pay for in this world. Microsoft products are
reasonably priced

You call over 400 US dollars for XP Home "reasonably priced"!?

I have, three times, once for each machine. Fortunately, I know enough not
to buy the retail version.

It is

NOT highway robbery since you are NOT FORCED to purchase it.

Yes, I am. I only know windows. I don't know how to install Linux; don't
have the time to learn it either. I need to use my computer, not configure
it and learn how to use it again. It took me 8 years to get where I am not
and I am not getting any younger.

There are FREE alternatives.

That 99% of the computer users of the world cannot install, configure or
use.

That is the long and short of it. Period. You don't like them apples? No
one is forcing you to make the purchase. There are no lies here... no
insults. I'm dealing in reality which you're refusing to face. In truth it
is YOU who are dealing in lies, insults and ad hominems.

Name one lie, insult or ad hominem that I have used.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Then write your own OS that is the equivalent of Windows, sell it for
less, and get rich quick.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

I wish I could. I am, like most people, however, not a programmer.

 

[Alias]

Back when Windows 95 came out I bought a "full install" CD for $199.00 A
month later I bought a "full install" of OS/2 for, guess what, $299.95.

I also bought NT 3.51 full install for $299.95.

I purchased Windows 98 Full install for - surprise, $199.00 - same as
Win95.

I then bought NT 4.0 for WOW, $299.95 - same price as NT 3.51.

What does Windows XP Home - Full install cost NOW. Did I hear $199.95. You
are right! Same as Win95 and Win98 full installs.

Not where I live. The only place I could find a retail version, and only an
upgrade at that, was here:

http://www.elcorteingles.es/informa...o_lst.asp?tlst=00000007&tsel=2&tmar=000000001

Price: $ 371,11. AND IT'S ON SALE!

Windows 2000 Full Install = $299.95

What about a full install of Windows XP Professional? Yep, $299.95 right
where all previous versions of an NT based operating system have always
been.

Do you get what I am saying? They haven't raised their prices for over 10
years.

Microsoft can raise the price, as far as I am concerned. They are due for
an increase and deserve it - IMHO! And I, for one, will not bitch about
paying another $299,00 for a full install of Windows Vista (or whatever it
comes out as).

I'm not as rich as you apparently are and most people in this world aren't.
It's highway robbery and, to top it off, you have to prove that you bought
it not once but twice.

Alias

 

[Ben]

Your signature says it all!

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[kurttrail]

Back when Windows 95 came out I bought a "full install" CD for
$199.00 A month later I bought a "full install" of OS/2 for, guess
what, $299.95.
I also bought NT 3.51 full install for $299.95.

I purchased Windows 98 Full install for - surprise, $199.00 - same as
Win95.
I then bought NT 4.0 for WOW, $299.95 - same price as NT 3.51.

What does Windows XP Home - Full install cost NOW. Did I hear
$199.95. You are right! Same as Win95 and Win98 full installs.

Windows 2000 Full Install = $299.95

What about a full install of Windows XP Professional? Yep, $299.95
right where all previous versions of an NT based operating system
have always been.

Do you get what I am saying? They haven't raised their prices for
over 10 years.

Microsoft can raise the price, as far as I am concerned. They are
due for an increase and deserve it - IMHO! And I, for one, will not
bitch about paying another $299,00 for a full install of Windows
Vista (or whatever it comes out as).

$299 to go from 5.0 to 5.1 is highway robbery. Roxio/Sonic to go from
7.0 to 7.5, and I told them to go to hell, but Roxio/Sonic has heads up
competition, I don't have to change computer hardware components or buy
a whole bunch of new software to move to Roxio/Sonic's competition. The
same can't be said of moving from Windows to something else.

And from what I've heard about Longhorn/Vista, its sound more like NT5.5
than a move to NT6.

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[kurttrail]

God help us - please!

And what have you done lately to deserve my help? ;-)

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[kurttrail]

Your signature says it all!

Yes. "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!

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[Richard Urban [MVP]]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6709065&type=product&id=1083713449054


$299.99 for Windows XP Professional - Full Install

Damn - they raised the price 4 cents since it came out. Then again, maybe I
am wrong and it always was $299.99.

NT 3.5 Full Install was $299.95

NT 3.51 Full Install was $299.95

NT 4.0 Full Install was $299.95

Windows 2000 Full Install was $299.95

No one forced me to buy all of the operating systems I have had. I just
"wanted" them!

No one forced you to buy "any" operating system YOU have had. You did that
voluntarily by paying cash or plopping down your credit card.


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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[Alias]

I cannot purchase from Best Buy. You do know, don't you, that this is an
international newsgroup? It's still more expensive than almost anything else
you can get for a computer at $299.99. It's still highway robbery when MS
knows that most people cannot operate anything but Windows and I don't think
you are going to see HPs, Packard Smells, Dells or any other large computer
maker shipping with Linux.

The don't-buy-it-if-you-don't-like-it trip just doesn't apply with Windows
and you know it.

Alias

 

[Richard Urban [MVP]]

Due to the anti trust settlement Microsoft can not force a computer
manufacturer to install Windows, of any flavor.

It is the choice of the manufacturer to install Windows and not Linux. They
know people wouldn't buy Linux and they, the manufacturers, also don't want
the support headaches that offering Linux would cause.

It is the choice of Dell, and somewhat HP, Gateway, Sony, Toshiba etc to
primarily - of definitely - offer only Intel CPU's. No one has the bal*s to
stand up to Intel. People did stand up to Microsoft and, as of this very
minute, they can sell a computer with Linux, Lindows (or whatever) or no O/S
at all. Companies don't want to. Do you hear that? Again, companies don't
want to!

You did NOT have to get Windows. You WANTED Windows. People have to pay for
what they want in this world - unless you intend to steal to get it. There
are lots of those type of people also.

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Richard Urban
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Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[Richard Urban [MVP]]

If I were 15 I would say "<choke> <gag>". Oops. That may well be out of
style now.

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Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

 

[kurttrail]

If I were 15 I would say "<choke> <gag>". Oops. That may well be out
of style now.

If you weren't a Crusty Old Bastard, you would have just laughed.

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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

You still need to insult others to prop up your point Kurt.
When are you going to regain control of yourself and end your need to insult
others.

It seems to be normal for you to blame all your problems on others while
accepting no responsibility for yourself.
That has become the American way lately and you are on that wagon.
As I suggested before, if I hated something as much as you claim to hate
Microsoft, I would go quickly.
I would not let learning, hardware etc get in the way, but that is yet
another excuse you use.
If I felt something was that evil, I would leave regardless the expense, I
have lost $ deliberately before for as much.

"...find MS's totally without any blame..."
If you say that about me, you are the liar as you so carelessly claim others
to be.
Or you have a very short memory.
As I have said to you many times, I see blame in many places including
Microsoft while you with your blinders seem to see all the fault with
Microsoft and no others.

As for the sss, that was a mistake as I am sure you know, but it is just as
well.
Keep calling myself and others "child", insults such as that seem to feed
the needs of your ego and serve no other purpose other than display your own
character.

 

[kurttrail]

You still need to insult others to prop up your point Kurt.
When are you going to regain control of yourself and end your need to
insult others.

What insult? What were you insulted by? Calling you a child for
changing my words in my sig? If so, then you only have yourself to
blame, because it is perfectly acceptable to snip the entire sig, but
changing people words is not an acceptable practice. And calling you a
child, is mild compared to the trollish act of changing my words
deserves. But I find it amusing that you are such a stick in the mud
when someone doesn't go along with the MS party line, but you have the
audacity to pull off such a trollish act.

It seems to be normal for you to blame all your problems on others
while accepting no responsibility for yourself.

LOL! My whole post was about being responsible. About taking the time
to move to Linux when I'm ready for it.

That has become the American way lately and you are on that wagon.

LOL! You sound like a Republican. And yes, THAT IS AN INSULT!

As I suggested before, if I hated something as much as you claim to
hate Microsoft, I would go quickly.

Quote me, Juppy. Where did I say I "hate" Microsoft?

I would not let learning, hardware etc get in the way, but that is yet
another excuse you use.

Cool. You would cut off your nose to spite your face. And if I had
your face, I would too, but I don't.

I'm going move to Linux in my own sweet time. This isn't like changing
between brands of underwear. But you are totally illogical when it
comes to anything about your precious Microsoft.

If I felt something was that evil, I would leave regardless the
expense, I have lost $ deliberately before for as much.

Example please. And how many thousands of dollars? Or are you just
talking sh*t?

"...find MS's totally without any blame..."
If you say that about me, you are the liar as you so carelessly claim
others to be.

OK, do you acknowledge and accept that MS is a proven monopoly and an
intellectual property infringer?

If so, do you acknowledge and accept that MS's monopolist actions have
had an effect on its customers?

And do you acknowledge and accept that with PA and WGA, MS's is make
"fair use" into piracy, which has no factual basis in law? No private
non-commercial individual has ever been charge with piracy for
installing software on more than one of their own computers, and
certainly never been legaly been found to have done anything legally
wrong in doing that!

Or you have a very short memory.
As I have said to you many times, I see blame in many places including
Microsoft while you with your blinders seem to see all the fault with
Microsoft and no others.

Many times? ROFL! Notice you don't give examples!

As for the sss, that was a mistake as I am sure you know, but it is
just as well.
LOL!

Keep calling myself and others "child", insults such as that seem to
feed the needs of your ego and serve no other purpose other than
display your own character.

No. For now on I'm gonna call a spade, a spade. Only a Troll changes
the words of others, instead of snipping them. YOU ARE A TROLL. And
you prove that with YOUR actions, Juppy.

Now you can have the last word, as your ego needs it so much, Troll!


A Troll is what a Troll Does!

"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"

Oh I know, that is your MicroTroll way of letting me know about all the
kisses you'd want to give me in person! ;-)

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[Guest]

As I unwittingly started these "wide ranging discussions" when I asked a
simple question about Giantantispy may I just say that they have been
sometimes laughable sometimes enlitening and always informative.(in their own
way)
The info on XP prices again highlights how much cheaper software is to you
on your side of the pond.
In the UK a new retail copy is £186.83 that is $324.86.
See what I mean.

 

[kurttrail]

As I unwittingly started these "wide ranging discussions" when I
asked a simple question about Giantantispy may I just say that they
have been sometimes laughable sometimes enlitening and always
informative.(in their own way)

That's what happens in a Newgroup. By the end of a discussion of a long
duration, you're on a totally different topic.

The info on XP prices again highlights how much cheaper software is
to you on your side of the pond.
In the UK a new retail copy is £186.83 that is $324.86.
See what I mean.

And OS prices are way too high on either side of the pond. You can buy
a low end computer for about that much. And if you knew the net margin
before taxes on Windows you'd see why. It is 86%. and that make the
markup around the 400% percent range. So when people tell you the price
hasn't changed in years, that is a bogus argument when the should have
been a 1/4 of what it was long ago.

Nobody is trying to say that MS doesn't derserve to profit from the
labor of its employees, but the markup MS has raked in for Windows are
at the levels of illegal drugs, prostitution, and illegal gambling rakes
in for organized crime syndicates.

I always find it quite amusing to see the MS Advocates that are
consumers too, take the side of Microsoft instead of the side of their
own wallets, and the wallets of their friends and family. It is almost
as amazing as poor people that are Torries and Republicans! Or
Christians that believe in committing violence instead of turning the
other cheek.

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[James]

That's what happens in a Newgroup. By the end of a discussion of a long
duration, you're on a totally different topic.





And OS prices are way too high on either side of the pond. You can buy
a low end computer for about that much. And if you knew the net margin
before taxes on Windows you'd see why. It is 86%. and that make the
markup around the 400% percent range. So when people tell you the price
hasn't changed in years, that is a bogus argument when the should have
been a 1/4 of what it was long ago.

Nobody is trying to say that MS doesn't derserve to profit from the
labor of its employees, but the markup MS has raked in for Windows are
at the levels of illegal drugs, prostitution, and illegal gambling rakes
in for organized crime syndicates.

I always find it quite amusing to see the MS Advocates that are
consumers too, take the side of Microsoft instead of the side of their
own wallets, and the wallets of their friends and family. It is almost
as amazing as poor people that are Torries and Republicans! Or
Christians that believe in committing violence instead of turning the
other cheek.

What I find amusing is that YOU think people actually give any credence
to what you say. I find you a malcontent (albeit a somewhat amusing
one), a hypocrite, and someone who apparently needs a life.

No one really cares what your take on Microsoft is, Kurt. No one cares
what your political views happen to be. No one really gives a rat's ass
what you happen to believe about Christian practices. In short....
you're just a blip on my monitor than only exists as long as I decide to
allow it. Once you no longer amuse me, I can simply plonk you into cyber
non-existence. And that is what I've decided to do. I've wasted far too
much time and effort reading your assinine posts from day to day. You're
a nobody, Kurt. You say you're self-annointed. True. No one else would
appoint you to anything given the fact that you've seldom demonstrated
any intelligence on these forums.

Okay. PLONK! Bye bye.