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Lang Murphy
Time to get rid of that PIII...
Lang
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BSchnur
Yes Vista is different. You will have to learn something new. To address
clients that believe Office 2007 will be peachy keen for them -- these
are folks who have been living with Office 97 mostly for 10 years and
have finally figured it out -- they have 'keyboard memory' -- and they
don't have time for any training.
Fortunately, implementation and support of their applications is
neither my call or responsibility...
I'm not saying that 'new' is bad at all. (be it Vista or Office 2007),
just that 'all things new and different are better' is a mantra I tend
not to chant...
But in some ways not as really different as Office 2007 -- I have somesome of your problems.
clients that believe Office 2007 will be peachy keen for them -- these
are folks who have been living with Office 97 mostly for 10 years and
have finally figured it out -- they have 'keyboard memory' -- and they
don't have time for any training.
Fortunately, implementation and support of their applications is
neither my call or responsibility...
I'm not saying that 'new' is bad at all. (be it Vista or Office 2007),
just that 'all things new and different are better' is a mantra I tend
not to chant...
D
Dale
While not all new may be better, you can't get to better without having new.
Dale
Dale
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bJames
Wow... I had no idea SO MANY people could really care SO MUCH about me!
I've gotten so much attention from so many of you in response to my post!
I feel so warmly loved and accepted right now!
Now, I have absolutley no doubt God genuinely loves me!
From now on, when I experience technical issues, I'm NOT going to recklessly
spew my pitiful, woe-is-me garbage into this newsgroup!
Instead, I'm going to immediately GET A GRIP and drop to my knees to PRAY
for solutions!
I'm going to LOOK DEEP WITHIN MYSELF to find and recognize the individual
who's TRULY RESPONSIBLE for my current difficulties!
From now on, I'm going to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for resolving MY issues
instead of blaming everything and everyone else!
Thanks to all of you who cared so much about me to love me!
God Bless You!
I've gotten so much attention from so many of you in response to my post!
I feel so warmly loved and accepted right now!
Now, I have absolutley no doubt God genuinely loves me!
From now on, when I experience technical issues, I'm NOT going to recklessly
spew my pitiful, woe-is-me garbage into this newsgroup!
Instead, I'm going to immediately GET A GRIP and drop to my knees to PRAY
for solutions!
I'm going to LOOK DEEP WITHIN MYSELF to find and recognize the individual
who's TRULY RESPONSIBLE for my current difficulties!
From now on, I'm going to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for resolving MY issues
instead of blaming everything and everyone else!
Thanks to all of you who cared so much about me to love me!
God Bless You!
M
MICHAEL
Who have you been "browbeating", Ronnie? 99% of the users
who have been to these forums over the last 8 months have been
beta testers. Most of the users coming in now, have never been
to this forum. Probably, some of those would have never made it
here had Microsoft not added the news server by default to Windows Mail.
I can understand some of the frustration going on. Many users are
reporting they ran that useless upgrade advisor and/or are using
computers that say "Vista ready" or whatever tag is put on computers
that make them sound like you'll have no problem using Vista.
That upgrade advisor is worthless. Absolutely, positively worthless.
Users are being told their systems are compatible by the advisor
and/or by the stickers on the machines.
Not only that, at the beginning of the install, they are told to remove
certain things- that is so hit and miss, it might as well not even make
suggestions.
-Michael
who have been to these forums over the last 8 months have been
beta testers. Most of the users coming in now, have never been
to this forum. Probably, some of those would have never made it
here had Microsoft not added the news server by default to Windows Mail.
I can understand some of the frustration going on. Many users are
reporting they ran that useless upgrade advisor and/or are using
computers that say "Vista ready" or whatever tag is put on computers
that make them sound like you'll have no problem using Vista.
That upgrade advisor is worthless. Absolutely, positively worthless.
Users are being told their systems are compatible by the advisor
and/or by the stickers on the machines.
Not only that, at the beginning of the install, they are told to remove
certain things- that is so hit and miss, it might as well not even make
suggestions.
-Michael
S
Saucy Lemon
INLINE:
Honing skills / interest in computers / etc. etc. is more like it.
'Must of had an easy question or were posting an opinion. The tough
questions get few responses here, if any.
That's nice. You probably would find a sort of acceptance here if you
participated w/o being an idiot about it.
That is true. He loves you and calls you to repentence. The price is payed
and you can reap the reward: eternal life. Think deeply about life and you
will realize God loves you: "Be still and know I am the Lord."
Yes, please don't.
It's not called Plug 'n Pray for nothing. And some Vista issues might indeed
require prayer.
Well, you are somewhat responsible. I don't believe the individual is always
entirely responsible for his or her own difficulties. But one can choose to
make a positive out of things 'tis true. As per your Vista difficulties, it
somewhat depends on whether you want to make Vista work for you or not. A
small glitch could have some people running to mama, others, I gather, solve
major issuses as sport. A lot depends on you and your attititude.
Good for you. But don't beat yourself up over things just because it is all
your responsibility now.
If I met you, I would seek in my heart to love you on account of Jesus, the
Christ. Jesus takes away the animosity that you find between humans.
Thank you. And God Bless you.
Apple, by the way, has promised a new version of iTunes that should work
with Vista - they say it will be available in a few weeks.
bJames > said:Wow... I had no idea SO MANY people could really care SO MUCH about me!
Honing skills / interest in computers / etc. etc. is more like it.
I've gotten so much attention from so many of you in response to my post!
'Must of had an easy question or were posting an opinion. The tough
questions get few responses here, if any.
I feel so warmly loved and accepted right now!
That's nice. You probably would find a sort of acceptance here if you
participated w/o being an idiot about it.
Now, I have absolutley no doubt God genuinely loves me!
That is true. He loves you and calls you to repentence. The price is payed
and you can reap the reward: eternal life. Think deeply about life and you
will realize God loves you: "Be still and know I am the Lord."
From now on, when I experience technical issues, I'm NOT going to
recklessly spew my pitiful, woe-is-me garbage into this newsgroup!
Yes, please don't.
Instead, I'm going to immediately GET A GRIP and drop to my knees to PRAY
for solutions!
It's not called Plug 'n Pray for nothing. And some Vista issues might indeed
require prayer.
I'm going to LOOK DEEP WITHIN MYSELF to find and recognize the individual
who's TRULY RESPONSIBLE for my current difficulties!
Well, you are somewhat responsible. I don't believe the individual is always
entirely responsible for his or her own difficulties. But one can choose to
make a positive out of things 'tis true. As per your Vista difficulties, it
somewhat depends on whether you want to make Vista work for you or not. A
small glitch could have some people running to mama, others, I gather, solve
major issuses as sport. A lot depends on you and your attititude.
From now on, I'm going to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for resolving MY issues
instead of blaming everything and everyone else!
Good for you. But don't beat yourself up over things just because it is all
your responsibility now.
Thanks to all of you who cared so much about me to love me!
If I met you, I would seek in my heart to love you on account of Jesus, the
Christ. Jesus takes away the animosity that you find between humans.
God Bless You!
Thank you. And God Bless you.
Apple, by the way, has promised a new version of iTunes that should work
with Vista - they say it will be available in a few weeks.
D
Dale
Did I miss something here?
Dale
Dale
Saucy Lemon said:INLINE:
Honing skills / interest in computers / etc. etc. is more like it.
'Must of had an easy question or were posting an opinion. The tough
questions get few responses here, if any.
That's nice. You probably would find a sort of acceptance here if you
participated w/o being an idiot about it.
That is true. He loves you and calls you to repentence. The price is payed
and you can reap the reward: eternal life. Think deeply about life and you
will realize God loves you: "Be still and know I am the Lord."
Yes, please don't.
It's not called Plug 'n Pray for nothing. And some Vista issues might
indeed require prayer.
Well, you are somewhat responsible. I don't believe the individual is
always entirely responsible for his or her own difficulties. But one can
choose to make a positive out of things 'tis true. As per your Vista
difficulties, it somewhat depends on whether you want to make Vista work
for you or not. A small glitch could have some people running to mama,
others, I gather, solve major issuses as sport. A lot depends on you and
your attititude.
Good for you. But don't beat yourself up over things just because it is
all your responsibility now.
If I met you, I would seek in my heart to love you on account of Jesus,
the Christ. Jesus takes away the animosity that you find between humans.
Thank you. And God Bless you.
Apple, by the way, has promised a new version of iTunes that should work
with Vista - they say it will be available in a few weeks.
K
Kerry Brown
Very well said. I like that one.
D
David R. Norton, MVP Shell/User
Dale said:Did I miss something here?
You don't want to know, trust me on this one!
D
Dale
Yeah, I think you're right... The whole thing looks kinda scary to me.
Dale
Dale
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arachnid
It's called stockholders. They tend to object to giving it all away for
free.
"Stockholders" have become the all-purpose corporate excuse for screwing
consumers at all costs: "We'd rather not sell that tainted baby formula to
mothers in developing nations, but our stockholders would sue us if we
didn't."
I remember when I supported a bunch of Mac users about 10 years ago and to
do anything useful on a Mac took 256MB. And checking Apple's website, I
don't see any 256MB Macs for sale today.
I don't see corporations lining up to install Ubuntu.
Ubuntu's primary focus will eventually be corporate desktops and servers,
but Canonical hasn't polished that end yet. They're still working on
the consumer-distro end of things. I'm not sure there is any one top
noncommercial distro for corporate desktops - Debian, CentOS, Fedora, and
OpenSuSE are all about equally popular. PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu, and MEPIS are
relatively new to that market but they're so much easier to use that I
expect them to take the lead over the next few years.
The Linux of choice in the corporate world is as expensive as Windows
is...
The Linux of choice (Red Hat) is free - what they're paying for is
support, which is entirely optional. If you want Red Hat Enterprise Linux
without the support contracts, CentOS is just RHEL with the name and logos
changed.
and they didn't have to develop anything except an installer to
get started.
Red Hat has been a major contributor to Linux and OSS development. A lot
of great code and no small amount of funding comes out of that company.
And they charge you for every friggin' year that you use their
product... a lot...
They're charging for support, just like Microsoft does. However, unlike
Microsoft, you can choose your support from competitors who all have the
OS source code and most of whom are likely to be involved in kernel and
applications development themselves.
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Sean
Saucy Lemon said:INLINE:
Honing skills / interest in computers / etc. etc. is more like it.
'Must of had an easy question or were posting an opinion. The tough
questions get few responses here, if any.
That's nice. You probably would find a sort of acceptance here if you
participated w/o being an idiot about it.
That is true. He loves you and calls you to repentence. The price is payed
and you can reap the reward: eternal life. Think deeply about life and you
will realize God loves you: "Be still and know I am the Lord."
Yes, please don't.
It's not called Plug 'n Pray for nothing. And some Vista issues might
indeed require prayer.
Well, you are somewhat responsible. I don't believe the individual is
always entirely responsible for his or her own difficulties. But one can
choose to make a positive out of things 'tis true. As per your Vista
difficulties, it somewhat depends on whether you want to make Vista work
for you or not. A small glitch could have some people running to mama,
others, I gather, solve major issuses as sport. A lot depends on you and
your attititude.
Good for you. But don't beat yourself up over things just because it is
all your responsibility now.
If I met you, I would seek in my heart to love you on account of Jesus,
the Christ. Jesus takes away the animosity that you find between humans.
Thank you. And God Bless you.
Apple, by the way, has promised a new version of iTunes that should work
with Vista - they say it will be available in a few weeks.
Don't 'cha just luv this newsgroup? ? ? ?
B
BobC
Huh?arachnid said:"Stockholders" have become the all-purpose corporate excuse for screwing
consumers at all costs: "We'd rather not sell that tainted baby formula to
mothers in developing nations, but our stockholders would sue us if we
didn't."
You jest of course.
Stockholders get to vote their shares at the annual meeting of stockholders
,,period..;MS is "run" by the Officers under the direction of The Board of
Directors.
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/default.mspx
Go here to view or download the Annual Report.
B
BSchnur
While not all new may be better, you can't get to better without having new.I'll disagree with that -- you can certainly get to 'better' by
learning how to use what you already have more effectively. In a sense
that is still 'new' in that it is new *knowledge*.
Heck, that's why folks populate these newsgroups.
learning how to use what you already have more effectively. In a sense
that is still 'new' in that it is new *knowledge*.
Heck, that's why folks populate these newsgroups.
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arachnid
Huh?
You jest of course.
No, I'm serious. I've seen all kinds of wrongs done to consumers and even
employees in the name of pleasing the stockholders.
Stockholders get to vote their shares at the annual meeting of
stockholders ,,period..;MS is "run" by the Officers under the direction
of The Board of Directors.
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/default.mspx Go here to view or
download the Annual Report.
Why they actually do what they do, as opposed to the excuses they make, is
a different issue.
D
Dale
arachnid said:No, I'm serious. I've seen all kinds of wrongs done to consumers and even
employees in the name of pleasing the stockholders.
That blame lies with the stockholders. They have an obligation to stand up
for what is right and not for just rising stock prices. The CEOs and other
executives are always going to do whatever it takes to please the
stockholders.
Take big oil. Consider them in regards to outrageous oil profits and also
regards to global warming. Both are huge moral failures on the part of the
oil companies and also of thier stockholders by not reigning it in - by not
saying enough is enough.
Corporate and business morality is only a reflection of stockholders'
personal and private morality. You want change, take a stand for what's
right.
Dale
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Richard Urban
Somehow, I do not think that the big oil stock holders would consider their
huge profits a failure. The stock holders will not even take time to
consider what big oil is doing to their children's and grand children's
future. They are too busy running to the bank.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
huge profits a failure. The stock holders will not even take time to
consider what big oil is doing to their children's and grand children's
future. They are too busy running to the bank.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
D
Dale
Yep. That's what happens when personal greed overrules personal morality.
S
Saucy Lemon
And that has become a big big problem, agreed. Exxon is now offering
$10,000.00 dollar prizes to scientists who "discover" evidence that the
burning of oil products does not contribute to global warming .. geesh, talk
about corrupt.
Saucy Lemon
$10,000.00 dollar prizes to scientists who "discover" evidence that the
burning of oil products does not contribute to global warming .. geesh, talk
about corrupt.
Saucy Lemon
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arachnid
That blame lies with the stockholders. They have an obligation to stand
up for what is right and not for just rising stock prices. The CEOs and
other executives are always going to do whatever it takes to please the
stockholders.
Not quite what I've been saying, but close enough. Now add to it the
thought that since stockholders do have this power and do behave this way,
they also make a convenient scapegoat for corrupt businesses.
Take big oil. Consider them in regards to outrageous oil profits and
also regards to global warming. Both are huge moral failures on the
part of the oil companies and also of thier stockholders by not reigning
it in - by not saying enough is enough.
There's no shortage of good examples. If it were rare, it wouldn't be a
problem.
Corporate and business morality is only a reflection of stockholders'
personal and private morality.
A reflection yes, but in my eyes "the stockholders' wishes" is not an
acceptable excuse for abuse of employees and consumers by businesses. I
once quit a job because they wanted me to skip some circuit tests we'd
contracted to do and fake the logs. Executives have that same choice.
You want change, take a stand for what's right.
Too late. Those same corporations already own the US government and run
our major political parties.
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