Ubuntu Really Sucks

[Gordon's Psychotherapist]

Ubuntu, like all things Linux, is the perfect example of the classic Puter
Nerd mentality. They will spend 20+ years in their basements building an
electric powered rocket ship to the moon. and then right before they go to
launch it... they remember that they forgot to bring a really long extension
cord.

In other words, they can make something great that ALMOST works like it's
supposed to, but they spend so much time tweaking out on massive amounts of
ways to customize and over complicate everything that they ignore the
simplest functions so that the average computer user can't use it. Why can't
GRANDMA use it?

1. Running the very limited catalog of programs from the Synaptic package
manager is easy. it's the other 99.9% of programs that require entering code
into the terminal or reading CHAPTERS of instructions on how to simply
install them. Seriously, how hard is it for a genius puter programmer to
write a simple program that will automatically run an .exe? Sorry but WINE
doesn't cut it. I really don't think my wife is willing to compile source
code for weeks so that she can watch her Netflix.

2. Incompatibility with hardware

3. Incompatibility with Windows & Mac

4. 18 different kinds of media players to run a CD, DVD, MP3, or video clip.

5. Most instructions written in l337 Speak as if everyone already
understands 99% of what they're talking about (because most people who read
instructions just do so as a hobby anyway)

Other than that, it's a great OS.

Don't get me wrong, I detest the proprietary, resource hogging, unstable,
insecure, over priced, Window$ garbage too. but it least it kind of works.

I already know what all the Lunix fanboys are getting ready to say:

"Yea. whatever. SHUT UP NOOB! You forgot to put a comma in the correct place
in that one sentence dummy butt! FINE! Go use windows then NOOB.

I will. And so will they. Because ALL Linux people use Windows or Mac if
they actually need to use a computer that works. they will just never admit
it

 

[philo]

Ubuntu, like all things Linux, is the perfect example of the classic Puter
Nerd mentality. They will spend 20+ years in their basements building an
electric powered rocket ship to the moon. and then right before they go to
launch it... they remember that they forgot to bring a really long extension
cord.

In other words, they can make something great that ALMOST works like it's
supposed to, but they spend so much time tweaking out on massive amounts of
ways to customize and over complicate everything that they ignore the
simplest functions so that the average computer user can't use it. Why can't
GRANDMA use it?

1. Running the very limited catalog of programs from the Synaptic package
manager is easy. it's the other 99.9% of programs that require entering code
into the terminal or reading CHAPTERS of instructions on how to simply
install them. Seriously, how hard is it for a genius puter programmer to
write a simple program that will automatically run an .exe? Sorry but WINE
doesn't cut it. I really don't think my wife is willing to compile source
code for weeks so that she can watch her Netflix.

2. Incompatibility with hardware

3. Incompatibility with Windows & Mac

4. 18 different kinds of media players to run a CD, DVD, MP3, or video clip.

5. Most instructions written in l337 Speak as if everyone already
understands 99% of what they're talking about (because most people who read
instructions just do so as a hobby anyway)

Other than that, it's a great OS.

Don't get me wrong, I detest the proprietary, resource hogging, unstable,
insecure, over priced, Window$ garbage too. but it least it kind of works.

I already know what all the Lunix fanboys are getting ready to say:

"Yea. whatever. SHUT UP NOOB! You forgot to put a comma in the correct place
in that one sentence dummy butt! FINE! Go use windows then NOOB.

I will. And so will they. Because ALL Linux people use Windows or Mac if
they actually need to use a computer that works. they will just never admit
it

Though I've been "fooling" with Linux for about 8 years now...
I still used Windows for most of my work.

Last year I got a root kit and had my credit card hacked.
Though I did not end up with any cash loss...it was a major scare and a
wake up call.

I am an extremely careful computer user...who never goes to the 'wrong'
kinds of websites. Keep the machine and all my security software
updated...but still ended up with a root kit.

I switched over to Linux at the beginning of the year and have been
using it for about 95% of my work.

Of the few Win-apps I need, some run in Wine and some don't...
so I will continue to use XP at least a small part of the time.


I did give Vista a try and found the performance absolutely
unacceptable... and also gave Win7 a try and found it to work quite a
bit better.

*however* neither Vista or Win7 had drivers for my very common SCSI card
and scanner..not did they have drivers for my very common sound chip.

Linux had no problems with any of the H/W.

Though I did eventually get Vista and Win7 to get my SCSI card and
scanner installed by using XP drivers...they still could not get my
sound chip working.

But the worst thing was that Vista and Win7 saw my external NTFS drive
as unformatted! Sheesh, XP has no problems with it and I can read and
write to it fine from Linux.

Most ironic of it all, Win7 and Vista can run CHKDSK on the drive while
booting up and still in the console mode...
and read the drive fine from there and find *no* problems

but booted to the GUI see the drive as unformatted and then prompt me to
format it!


So though I can hardly say that Linux can do *everything*, it's still
been doing a heck of a good job for me

 

[webster72n]

Though I've been "fooling" with Linux for about 8 years now...
I still used Windows for most of my work.

Last year I got a root kit and had my credit card hacked.
Though I did not end up with any cash loss...it was a major scare and a
wake up call.

I am an extremely careful computer user...who never goes to the 'wrong'
kinds of websites. Keep the machine and all my security software
updated...but still ended up with a root kit.

I switched over to Linux at the beginning of the year and have been using
it for about 95% of my work.

Of the few Win-apps I need, some run in Wine and some don't...
so I will continue to use XP at least a small part of the time.


I did give Vista a try and found the performance absolutely
unacceptable... and also gave Win7 a try and found it to work quite a bit
better.

*however* neither Vista or Win7 had drivers for my very common SCSI card
and scanner..not did they have drivers for my very common sound chip.

Linux had no problems with any of the H/W.

Though I did eventually get Vista and Win7 to get my SCSI card and scanner
installed by using XP drivers...they still could not get my sound chip
working.

But the worst thing was that Vista and Win7 saw my external NTFS drive as
unformatted! Sheesh, XP has no problems with it and I can read and write
to it fine from Linux.

Most ironic of it all, Win7 and Vista can run CHKDSK on the drive while
booting up and still in the console mode...
and read the drive fine from there and find *no* problems

but booted to the GUI see the drive as unformatted and then prompt me to
format it!


So though I can hardly say that Linux can do *everything*, it's still been
doing a heck of a good job for me

Good for you, but why should that interest me in this particular group?
Please, don't answer it, because it doesn't.

Harry.

 

[Alias]

Good for you, but why should that interest me in this particular group?
Please, don't answer it, because it doesn't.

Harry.

If you weren't interested, you wouldn't comment and you would ignore
this thread.

Alias

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

philo wrote:

Though I've been "fooling" with Linux for about 8 years now...
I still used Windows for most of my work.

Last year I got a root kit and had my credit card hacked.
Though I did not end up with any cash loss...it was a major scare and a
wake up call.

You contributed to the compromise of the machine in someway. It just
didn't happen by itself.

I am an extremely careful computer user...who never goes to the 'wrong'
kinds of websites. Keep the machine and all my security software
updated...but still ended up with a root kit.

I switched over to Linux at the beginning of the year and have been
using it for about 95% of my work.

And Linux is not going to save you if you do the wrong point and click.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-even-rootkits-are-open-source
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/62275.html?wlc=1253652363
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10356421-83.html

The 'security by oblivion party', because no one is using it, for Linux
is coming to an end. And the Swiss cheese and Flying Dutchman that Linux
really is will be exposed more and more. And the clueless are not going
to be safe there either, as they start coming after Linux for the all
mighty $$$$$.

But the worst thing was that Vista and Win7 saw my external NTFS drive
as unformatted! Sheesh, XP has no problems with it and I can read and
write to it fine from Linux.

Most ironic of it all, Win7 and Vista can run CHKDSK on the drive while
booting up and still in the console mode...
and read the drive fine from there and find *no* problems

but booted to the GUI see the drive as unformatted and then prompt me to
format it!

And you were given a solution to circumvent the problem. You made the
choice to not take that the path. So it was not mission critical for you
now was it? It's a moot point man.


Linux is no bed of roses, and it's wilting more and more, as they now
start to come after it.

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

Alias wrote:

<snipped>

And let me cut you off, because you're too low caliber.

 

[Spanky de Monkey, ESQ]

HA HA HA HA - Alias is very low caliber. When Alias looks up he sees the
gutter.

 

[Alias]

philo wrote:



You contributed to the compromise of the machine in someway. It just
didn't happen by itself.


And Linux is not going to save you if you do the wrong point and click.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-even-rootkits-are-open-source

Be sure and read the comments at the bottom of this one year old blog.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/62275.html?wlc=1253652363

From this 1 1/2 year old blog:

"Linux users can weaken the built-in resilience of the operating system
by running Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) More about Microsoft Windows
programs under applications such as Wine, Sergeant added."

LOL!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10356421-83.html

Hackers using Open Source is good for Open Source, bad for Windows users.

The 'security by oblivion party', because no one is using it, for Linux
is coming to an end. And the Swiss cheese and Flying Dutchman that Linux
really is will be exposed more and more. And the clueless are not going
to be safe there either, as they start coming after Linux for the all
mighty $$$$$.

Ill informed opinion contradicted by the very same articles you cited.

Linux is no bed of roses, and it's wilting more and more, as they now
start to come after it.

Ill informed opinion contradicted by the very same articles you cited.

Alias

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

This article talks about a rootkit that is actually part of a software
tool suite called Canvas Toolkit for security professionals. This is NOT
something in the wild and replicating by itself.

So, it's a root kit nonetheless, and it doesn't take a professional to
write a root kit. But, I guess that's beyond your comprehension?.

The articles conclusion.......

"Bottom Line

Linux users shouldn't panic with fears of new attack vectors zeroing in
on their hard drives, however. No really threatening virus attacks exist.

"There always have been some viruses for the Linux platform. But there is
nothing new out there," Paul Piccard, director of threat research for
phishing scams and Linux viruses at Webroot, told LinuxInsider."

Bottom line is it's not going to stay that way, and it changing.

"Why virus writers are turning to open source" is the title of this
article.

The word Linux was never used, nor Windows, nor Apple/MAC. It's about the
virii/malware being listed as open-source and having many different
developers working on them.

'Open Source' refers to a software development model, NOT any specific
OS.

I guess you are one of the clueless that believe Open Source = Linux.

It's more associated with Linux.

Or that all Linux programs are free. That's wrong too.

As a matter of fact, your posting with Thunderbird.....Open
Source...better look out....there's a rootkit coming your way.

I know this, your point is moot.

Not according to the articles you linked.

I'm ranking you at Jewboy/StanStarinski level...wait....slightly below.

And you're just a COLA Boy out of place.

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

Alias wrote:

<snipped>

Did you read my other post to you?

 

[Alias]

Alias wrote:

<snipped>

What was totally refuted by me.

Did you read my other post to you?

To which of the many are you referring?

Alias

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

Alias wrote:

<snipped>

You actually replied with nose wide opened, huh?

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

Nothing is beyond my comprehension. But the sky is falling analogy you
want to portray is not realistic.

The more popular Linux gets in the home user sector, the more it's going
to be compromised.

That was the story last year......and 3 years ago.....and back in
2003...etc.

Sure, it may happen, but it hasn't started yet.

It's been happening, and it's going to happen even more.

You linked an article in your argument as evidence that OS s/w is the
next target of malware/virii, but the article is completely irrelevant,
it doesn't matter.

You don't count, because O/S(s) get attacked due to the software that's
running on them, which will be targeting Linux.

Puleeeeze. What a joke. COLA.

I'm just offering a rebuttal to your post, as it was nothing but FUD, and
the articles stated exactly opposite of what you thought they said. You
don't seem to smart, or thorough, or maybe it's just a lack of due
diligence.

You're no more than a COLA boy with all kinds of excuse.

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

DanS wrote:

<snipped>
<yawn>

You're boring me.

 

[Waz Medano]

If you are part of the 5% of users that absolutely must use Windows, then do
so.

I would guestimate that a lot more than 5% of Windows users are
gamers. Games on Windows is a multi bilion dollar per year industry so
**** off with your useless and free OS. If it can't run my games then
it is shite.

*----------------------------------------------------------------------*
"A good neighbor is one who stays on their side of the ****ING fence."
*----------------------------------------------------------------------*

 

[Alias]

Alias wrote:

<snipped>

You actually replied with nose wide opened, huh?

Oh, you think you're being cute and clever by snipping and then being
snide? How cute. Can you roll over and play dead too?

Alias

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

Alias wrote:

<snipped>
<yawn>

 

[philo]

Because you put forth a very weak argument that a 3rd grader could have
picked apart, I'm boring you ?

Oh one other point I forgot to make the first time...

Several of the Linux distributions I tried probed my graphics card
exceedingly well.

Both Fedora and Debian based distributions (such as Ubuntu) gave far
superior graphics rendition to my Windows installation on the same
machine. (I multi-boot through the use of removable drives)

Though NVidia does have Linux drivers...even without them the graphics
rendition was very clear, crisp and sharp.

As a photographer that turned out to be a major plus for Linux.

Once I saw how great it was it was pretty hard to even go back and look
at a Windows machine...and after a lot of fooling around I was at least
able to tweak XP a bit...to make it slightly better

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

DanS wrote:

<snipped>

You are kind of worthless, your usual MO.

 

[Alias]

You far over-estimate PC gaming.
Console gaming is where real gamers go.

Bullshit.

Alias