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David
That's the other David. He's a decent enough fellow, I suppose, just not
as smart.
as smart.
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David
I bought 2 laptops with Vista, so I can't be very smart...David said:That's the other David. He's a decent enough fellow, I suppose, just
not as smart.
Dave
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dennis@home
(( carmen )) said:
Why listen to anyone that wants to stay as they are? There is no point in
developing XP as it is "finished" and you don't want it changed anyway. Any
significant changes are going to be rejected as its no longer XP, just as
you are rejecting vista now.
It isn't a problem for M$ if you want to pay $$ for an OS they no longer
need to pay $$$ to develop then they are $$$$$ better off.
H
HeyBub
(( carmen )) said:
I have to say that every day I use Vista, I'm a real stallion that night
with the wife.
She couldn't be happier.
C
Celegans
"Extensive usability studies"? Some changes seem like they were semester
projects in a software engineering class -- good ideas, but not much thought
about reality. You should always be able to explain in one or two sentences
why a change was made or was necessary instead of hiding behind "extensive
usability studies". Just saying something is an improvement doesn't make it
so.
Yes, there were some good changes in Vista, but why now after a series of
new steps in Vista do I see the same old dialog box from before? How did
"different" become "better"? Word 2007 is especially frustrating. After
10 months with Word 2007 I am still LESS productive than I was with earlier
versions. Some changes were welcome, but the NEGATIVES are still MUCH
larger than any improvements. Did "extensive usability studies" really
suggest to use the term "Quick Parts" as a "better" way on the path to
inserting fields in a Word 2007 document? Just what is a "Quick Part"
anyway?
What I've learned from these "extensive usability studies" is to NEVER TRUST
MICROSOFT AGAIN -- and I'm been a faithful Windows user since Windows 95. I
am more likely now to look at Apple or Linux for my next computer so I can
be productive instead of dealing with arbitrary changes made by Microsoft
that helps them more than anyone else. I really don't know how Microsoft
expects to keep customers when they treat us so badly. Microsoft should use
"carrots" (improvements that sell themselves) instead of "sticks" (arbitrary
changes that really are not improvements) if they really care about
customers and productivity.
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Alias
Celegans said:
Hear, hear! Very well said.
Alias
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Frank
Alias said:
Translation: alias has no understanding of what was said just that is
was an MS bashing post.
You're rather stupid aren't you?
Frank
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That Guy
sorry this group is only for people who are not happy.
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Alias
Frank said:
Wrong again, Frank.
Alias
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swb_mct
Vista and Office 2007 >>> Big globs of Massive buttons and Color and
terrible visbility of the essential information required.
The vista registry > cant tell an open key in the left pane from a closed
key . they are all the same !!!
Thanks for expressing my frustration with Vista and Office 2007.
We tried both for a month and it was such a hassle we switched back to our
disk images of XP and Office 2003.
At home, I just bought a Mac so I can start moving from XP to Mac.
That is why CRN says Windows XP is "The Operating System of the Year"
terrible visbility of the essential information required.
The vista registry > cant tell an open key in the left pane from a closed
key . they are all the same !!!
Thanks for expressing my frustration with Vista and Office 2007.
We tried both for a month and it was such a hassle we switched back to our
disk images of XP and Office 2003.
At home, I just bought a Mac so I can start moving from XP to Mac.
That is why CRN says Windows XP is "The Operating System of the Year"
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thetruthhurts
"Sold millions" on new PCs, but how many are actually being used?
"Vista isn't the greatest" no kidding
"Vista will probably get better over time" I sure the hell hope so
" With a couple of Service Packs
and upgraded software, Vista just might be OK." I was hoping for
something better than just OK after several SPs
"Get that high powered machine to run it on." Why??? After your own
comments, why?
P
Paul Knudsen
Well, now you have. Few glitches? Sure. But I'm sticking with it.
P
Paul Knudsen
Something to that. I'm happy, though.
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Robyn
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\(\( carmen \)\)
I have a couple of workstations....most of them run XP and are what I use
the vast majority of time.
However, I do realize that Vista is here to stay and I need to get used to
it, so I do have it on one pc that I use periodically. I've had no hardware
issues, mind you the pc is rather new.
It's just in terms of the looks that I haven't got used to. Control panel
looks very different, the way Windows Explorer shifts left and right as you
move over folders is something I haven't got used to yet, the missing run
command which I figured out later, etc, etc.
It's not so much I dislike Vista, it's just it's very different. Personally
speaking, coming from a customer orientated industry, change and progress is
inevitable and must be made but at the same time, I believe most companies
do try and make the transitions slowly so that consumers have an easier time
with the change.
I guess that's a challenge with an OS as you have to release it and then
that's pretty much it, whereas in other industries the change can be a
little more gradual.
the vast majority of time.
However, I do realize that Vista is here to stay and I need to get used to
it, so I do have it on one pc that I use periodically. I've had no hardware
issues, mind you the pc is rather new.
It's just in terms of the looks that I haven't got used to. Control panel
looks very different, the way Windows Explorer shifts left and right as you
move over folders is something I haven't got used to yet, the missing run
command which I figured out later, etc, etc.
It's not so much I dislike Vista, it's just it's very different. Personally
speaking, coming from a customer orientated industry, change and progress is
inevitable and must be made but at the same time, I believe most companies
do try and make the transitions slowly so that consumers have an easier time
with the change.
I guess that's a challenge with an OS as you have to release it and then
that's pretty much it, whereas in other industries the change can be a
little more gradual.
K
Ken Blake, MVP
Two points:
1. You can choose the Classic View, and make it look more like older
versions of Windows, if you prefer.
2. There *are* aspects of it that are different. You can't have
improvements and also keep everything the same. And unquestionably
change takes time to get used to. But if you run XP "the vast majority
of time," and Vista only seldom, you may find that you will never get
used to the changes and improvements in Vista.
My recommendation is to decide which operating system you want to use
and use it. Either forget about Vista and run all XP machines, or get
rid of XP and run only Vista. That should greatly simplify your life.
My choice would be to stick with Vista, but you have to decide for
yourself.
J
JLY
My new HP laptop came with Vista installed. I love the laptop, but I
certainly don't like Vista! I would NEVER have chosen this program! I wish
Microsoft would give us a choice. Don't preload it with what YOU want,
Microsoft, let ME decide what that is. I have XP Professional on my desktop,
I chose to upgrade to it, and it is great. In my opinion it walks all over
Vista. I don't mind upgrades if they are purposeful, but they should be
seamless and totally compatible with the previous version. Vista is neither.
Bells and whistles do not make a product better, just cumbersome...most of
the time, less is more! Instead of deciding for us what we have to use, why
not let us tell you what we want when we make the purchase. We have that
choice in just about every other aspect of our lives when we purchase cars,
houses, boats, etc. , and a computer shouldn't be any different.
certainly don't like Vista! I would NEVER have chosen this program! I wish
Microsoft would give us a choice. Don't preload it with what YOU want,
Microsoft, let ME decide what that is. I have XP Professional on my desktop,
I chose to upgrade to it, and it is great. In my opinion it walks all over
Vista. I don't mind upgrades if they are purposeful, but they should be
seamless and totally compatible with the previous version. Vista is neither.
Bells and whistles do not make a product better, just cumbersome...most of
the time, less is more! Instead of deciding for us what we have to use, why
not let us tell you what we want when we make the purchase. We have that
choice in just about every other aspect of our lives when we purchase cars,
houses, boats, etc. , and a computer shouldn't be any different.
C
Chris Game
Because users don't always know what they want, never mind what they
need? And a product that meets the needs of 90% of the population is
a pretty good match, even if it annoys the heck out of the other
10%. The 10% can always use another OS anyway.
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Alias
Chris said:
MS' way or the highway, eh? Such arrogance will be MS' downfall.
Alias
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Alias
JLY said:
Take the laptop back and insist on either your money back or that they
give you one with XP.
Alias