a-ohh....>>>Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself


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Tiberius

I guess the vistaboy laugh is stopping abruptly as people are showing
what they really feel about the worse OS ever made> vista
I told you so.. and it will come to pass. Vista will fall.

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9785337-7.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=NewsBlog

Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself
Posted by Don Reisinger

The Microsoft albatross
(Credit: Microsoft)
While Vista was originally touted by Microsoft as the operating system
savior we've all been waiting for, it has turned out to be one of the
biggest blunders in technology. With a host of issues that are inexcusable
and features that are taken from the Mac OS X and Linux playbook, Microsoft
has once again lost sight of what we really want.
As we're more than aware, Vista Ultimate comes at a premium. For an
additional $160 over the Premium SKU price, Ultimate gives you a complete
backup and restore option, BitLocker Drive encryption, the ever so popular
Windows Fax & Scan, and the "Ultimate Extras." But what started with a
promise of "Extras" by summer, quickly turned into an apology from Microsoft
and the eventual release of DreamScene and Windows Hold 'Em (among others)
today. And while each of the "Extras" runs just fine, Microsoft's "Extras"
blunder is just another reason why the company must abandon Vista before
it's too late.
The first indication that Microsoft should abandon Vista is its poor sales
figures. According to a recent report titled "Windows Vista Still
Underperforming in U.S. Retail" from NPD, Vista sales are significantly
behind XP sales during its early days. Even worse for Redmond, some are
reverting to XP, citing issues with compatibility and overall design. And if
that wasn't enough, Macs continue to surge and with the impending release of
Leopard, Microsoft may be in for a rough holiday season.
With each passing day, it's becoming blatantly clear that Microsoft released
Vista too early and the company's continual mistakes and promises that can't
be kept are further annoying the Windows faithful.
Much talk has been given to Service Pack 1 and how this update should
address many of the issues users have with Vista, but I simply don't agree.
Will SP1 eliminate the ridiculous Microsoft licensing schemes? Will SP1 drop
the price on the higher-end versions? Will SP1 eliminate the need for users
to buy a new computer just to use the faulty OS?
SP1 will do nothing but fix the holes and issues we currently know about and
create even more. As we all know from the days of Windows ME and even XP,
Microsoft is not the best company at finding and addressing security issues,
and chances are, Vista will be no different.
One significant problem that I have with Vista is its inclusion of new DRM,
specifically the company's decision to install Protected Video Path. To
prevent a person from copying (or in most cases, backing up) a movie, the
operating system provides process isolation and if an unverified component
is in use, the operating system shuts down DRM content. For the first time
on any operating system, we're not even allowed to backup our favorite
movies? Come on.
I also find it interesting that Microsoft decided to take the user access
control concept from Mac OS X and make it much worse. Can someone please
explain to me why I need to be asked if I wanted to do something entirely
innocuous like open a third-party app from a well-known software company?
Never before have I seen such an abysmal start to an operating system
release. For almost a year, people have been adopting Vista and becoming
incensed by how poorly it operates. Not only does it cost too much, it
requires more to run than XP, there is still poor driver support, and that
draconian licensing scheme is a by-product of Microsoft picking on the wrong
people.
The road ahead looks dangerous for Vista and Microsoft must realize that.
With Mac OS X hot on its tail, Vista is simply not capable of competing at
an OS level with some of the best software around. If Microsoft continues
down this path, it will be Vista that will bring the software giant to its
knees--not Bill Gates' departure.
Of course, categorically dumping an operating system is quite difficult and
with millions already using the OS, chances are Microsoft won't find a good
enough reason to do it. And while I can understand that argument, there's no
reason the company can't continue to support Vista and go back to the
drawing board for its next OS. Even better, go back to XP--it's not nearly
as bad as Vista.
As a daily user of Mac OS X, Ubuntu and Vista, I'm keenly aware of what
works and what doesn't. Mac and Linux work.
The time is up. Microsoft must abandon Vista and move on. It's the company's
only chance at redemption.
Originally posted at The Digital Home.
 
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f/fgeorge

MS is NOT abandoning Vista, it is the next step in a long line of new
OS's that MS has planned. We users will either learn to use it or be
like the current 2k users, be an OS behind!
MS couldn't care less what opiners have to say about Vista, it is
going forward and nothing can stop it. People WILL buy it, businesses
WILL switch to it. When businesses make the switch, we users will have
no choice since we don't want to try and work with one OS at work and
a different OS at home. MS is gearing up for that change. At my work,
about 10,000 pc's, we are switching to Vista after the first of the
year.
 
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Tiberius

We users will either learn to use it or be
like the current 2k users, be an OS behind!
MS couldn't care less what opiners have to say about Vista

Where do people like you come from????
It is arrogance like yours that got MS in the tight place it is now with
vista in the first place.

1) they cant abandon vista because they already have invested too much into
it
2) they cant fix vista because it would mean a complete re-write of the
whole darn thing.

I see clearly the ship sinking like a rock... there is no doubt about it.

even though your IT people at your work are incredibly stupid for switching
to vista,
I must inform you that most companies are staying as far away as vista as
possible.
Your company shoud fire and sue your IT people for sabotaging the business
by giving ill advice me to install vista in a company.

What you are saying is very unlikley, since its incredibly stupid, and Im
not even sure you are telling the truth or jus trolling.

Most companies are waiting to see what will happen with SP1... but SP1 will
not fix vista well enough. Sorry but this is true.
 
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Alias

f/fgeorge said:
MS is NOT abandoning Vista, it is the next step in a long line of new
OS's that MS has planned. We users will either learn to use it or be
like the current 2k users, be an OS behind!

Heaven forbid! Course if one uses Ubuntu, one is always several Oses
AHEAD of Windows of any flavor.
MS couldn't care less what opiners have to say about Vista, it is
going forward and nothing can stop it. People WILL buy it, businesses
WILL switch to it. When businesses make the switch, we users will have
no choice since we don't want to try and work with one OS at work and
a different OS at home. MS is gearing up for that change. At my work,
about 10,000 pc's, we are switching to Vista after the first of the
year.

Actually, and ironically, MS will be the cause for Vista flopping and
for the downfall of Windows. It's all due to greed and the flaky, buggy
and totally ineffective "anti piracy" programs. The music industry could
read the writing on the wall, why can Microsoft?

Alias
To email me, remove shoes
 
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Frank

Alias said:
Actually, and ironically, MS will be the cause for Vista flopping and
for the downfall of Windows. It's all due to greed and the flaky, buggy
and totally ineffective "anti piracy" programs. The music industry could
read the writing on the wall, why can Microsoft?
hehehe...got that crystal ball all fired up huh?
Let's see MS will go out of business and linux will be on every desktop,
right?
Sure...what are you smoking...and no...I don't want any of something
that screws up your mind as badly as yours is obviously screwed up.
Frank
 
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Alias

Frank said:
hehehe...got that crystal ball all fired up huh?

If you want to know your past, look at the effects you are receiving
now. If you want to know your future, look at the causes you are making
now. Cause: pissing off paying customers. Effect: go out of business.
This doesn't require a crystal ball but common sense, something you are
not blessed with I'm afraid.
Let's see MS will go out of business and linux will be on every desktop,
right?

I don't know. It doesn't look good for Windows or Office though. Xbox is
doing pretty well. Maybe they should stick to that.
Sure...what are you smoking...and no...I don't want any of something
that screws up your mind as badly as yours is obviously screwed up.
Frank

Gotta trot out a straw man and an ad hominem, just like Pavlov's dog, eh?
 
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Alias said:
If you want to know your past, look at the effects you are receiving now.
If you want to know your future, look at the causes you are making now.
Cause: pissing off paying customers. Effect: go out of business. This
doesn't require a crystal ball but common sense, something you are not
blessed with I'm afraid.

You do realize that pissing off "customers" is more serious with a free
product as the user doesn't feel any loss when they junk it.
Maybe that is why Linux struggles?
 
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Alias

You do realize that pissing off "customers" is more serious with a free
product as the user doesn't feel any loss when they junk it.
Maybe that is why Linux struggles?

Word of mouth takes a while but once the ball starts rolling, it
snowballs. Today, a lawyer was in my office and I showed him Ubuntu and
he said, "so that's what they were talking about on the radio" and asked
me for the URL so he could download it and install it on a spare
computer to see how he liked it. This kind of thing was NOT happening
even a year ago with Linux.

So, activate, get genuine four or five times a year, either stealthy or
by choice, wait for the indexing to EVER finish and click on those UAC
prompts and stay stuck in what used to be or go through the learning
curve and get the OS of the future.
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

:

"Today, my probation officer lawyer was in my office and I showed him Ubuntu and
he said, "so that's what you're spamming about the Vista newsgroups" and asked
me for the URL so he could add it to my commmitment papers to the Ubuntu
open sores insane asylum...."
 
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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Carey said:
:

"Today, my probation officer lawyer was in my office and I showed him Ubuntu and
he said, "so that's what you're spamming about the Vista newsgroups" and asked
me for the URL so he could add it to my commmitment papers to the Ubuntu
open sores insane asylum...."

Someone here is paying Carey the highest form of flattery...

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
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Rich

The Church of What's Happenin' Now ...

Make up stuff and preach it ;)

Quite a congregation you have there .. regular church goers

heh


Rich
 
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Frank

Alias said:
If you want to know your past, look at the effects you are receiving
now. If you want to know your future, look at the causes you are making
now. Cause: pissing off paying customers. Effect: go out of business.
This doesn't require a crystal ball but common sense, something you are
not blessed with I'm afraid.

Strange remarks coming from someone who didn't pay for Vista and doesn't
use it. I'd call that wishful thinking...or more like dreaming.
I don't know. It doesn't look good for Windows or Office though.

Really? Got any statistical data to back up that stupid claim? I'd say
look at MS's quarterly report for the real story. Listening to and
believing what a bunch of linturds over at open sores are chanting is
just again, wishful thinking.

Xbox is
doing pretty well. Maybe they should stick to that.



Gotta trot out a straw man and an ad hominem, just like Pavlov's dog, eh?

Gotta keep on lying huh?
Figures.
Frank
 
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Alias

Carey said:
:

"Today, my probation officer lawyer was in my office and I showed him Ubuntu and
he said, "so that's what you're spamming about the Vista newsgroups" and asked
me for the URL so he could add it to my commmitment papers to the Ubuntu
open sores insane asylum...."

Trying to imitate Frank?
 

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