vista crashing,blue screen,when visiting certain web sites

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Guest

yes. i had xp,and all was fine. i recentally bought a new computer if
vista.all anti-viruis,and spyware in it. when i visit certain web
sites,especially my space. the system blue screens in seconds,and shuts down.
i use dsl for my broadband connection. the screen at shut down has error
code of --- stop oxoooooo8e coxoooo51 ox8045 faeic ox8c5d35a4
oxoooooooo-then states collecting data for crash dump,dumping physical
memory... whats causing this
 
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Chad Harris

Della--

1) I don't know. It would help to know the wording of the stop error
message on your BSOD. You can freeze that BSOD on your screen by doing
this:

Hit Windows key on lower left keyboard + pause break on right. Then click
Adv System Settings on th eleft of that window>click settings button on
bottom of dialogue box under Startup>then take ckmark out of "Automatically
Restart"

2) The stop error 8E etc. can represent more than one issue. The most
common is a fualty device driver or an incompatible device driver, but it
can be caused by software, a usb drive, and so it's not very specirfic and
the wording might help.

3) You might recover by using startup repair or system restore within the
Win RE environment (tools that fix Vista whether you can boot to it or
not). Without the wording I can't be more precise.

Here's what I'd do. You can boot to Vista so first I'd run SFC (System File
Checker)/and if no help I'd run a startup repair. If a faulty hardware
device or its driver is the cause, you'll have to see one by one which
device is the problem.

To run sfc: Type cmd in run box and right click and run as admin. Then
type sfc /scannow at the cmd prompt.

If you have a Vista DVD, you can try the Recovery link that allows you to
use Win RE's Startup Repair or if no joy, System Restore from there which
sometimes works when F8's Safe Mode>System Restore options (all 4 should be
tried) won't.

You can run Startup Repair by putting your Vista DVD in after the
language screen in setup. You can also run System Restore from the same
location.

You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
also sometimes effective):

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

Note The computer must be configured to start from a CD or from a DVD. For
information about how to configure the computer to start from a CD or from a
DVD, see the information that came with the computer.
2. Restart the computer. To do this, click Start, click the arrow next to
the Lock button, and then click Restart.

This usually means that you enter bios setup by whatever key or keys
(sometimes there is more than one key that will do it for your model--go to
pc manufacturer site) and configure CD to be first in the boot order.

See for ref:
Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

Note If you cannot restart the computer by using this method, use the power
button to turn off the computer. Then, turn the computer back on.

3. Set your language preference, and then click Next.

Note In most cases, the startup repair process starts automatically, and you
do not have the option to select it in the System Recovery Options menu.

4. Click Repair your computer.

5. In the System Recovery Options dialog box, click the operating system
that you want to repair, and then click Next.

6. In the System Recovery Options menu, click Startup Repair to start the
repair process.

7. When the repair process is complete, click Finish.

Additional References for Startup Repair With Screenshots:

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
___________________

You could also:

Try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I don't
use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives you a
choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with Command
Prompt.

These methods are outlined in

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP/and Vista
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/

You will need this reference:

How to start the System Restore tool at a command prompt in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304449/en-us

The command to use for system restore at the safe mode cmd prompt is:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

The reason for doing this is one of these choices may work, when the other
doesn't. My experience is that people do not fully try F8 when they think
or have said they have. It is that they can almost always reach Windows
Advanced Options though.


Good luck,

CH
 
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Chad Harris

Della--

In addition, and I know this will seem esoeteric because most people have no
understanding of Driver Verifier and its relationship to Blue Screens, I
would type verifier into the run box, and disable deadlock detection and
inspection of your Antivirus Program drivers.

Use this as a guide:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244617

CH
 
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Chad Harris

I would expect though that MSFT would be able to supply a compatible driver
for you until then. Check MSFT update. What driver are you using
now--probably a default one supplied by Vista but it had to come from
somewhere and some manufacturer.

I'm not sure until we see the error message that either you or Della gets,
that we can ascribe that BSOD to the same caues--many of those stop errors
have multiple potential origins.

CH
 
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Guest

I have the same problem when opening up certain profiles in myspace... I have
a new ACER laptop... but I was able to open those same profiles when I
startup in safe mode with networking... and I have no problem opening those
profiles in my other PC still running XP... any idea?
 
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Lang Murphy

Chad,

I haven't had the OS BSOD on MySpace, but I have had IE pitch a hissy fit
and error out into the land of nod.

Not really going anywhere with this... just throwing more fuel onto the
fire...

Lang
 
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Lang Murphy

Don't have an answer... just curious.. is Vista blue-screening on you or is
IE bombing?

Lang

m][ke said:
I have the same problem when opening up certain profiles in myspace... I
have
a new ACER laptop... but I was able to open those same profiles when I
startup in safe mode with networking... and I have no problem opening
those
profiles in my other PC still running XP... any idea?

Chad Harris said:
I would expect though that MSFT would be able to supply a compatible
driver
for you until then. Check MSFT update. What driver are you using
now--probably a default one supplied by Vista but it had to come from
somewhere and some manufacturer.

I'm not sure until we see the error message that either you or Della
gets,
that we can ascribe that BSOD to the same caues--many of those stop
errors
have multiple potential origins.

CH
 
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Chad Harris

Well again, as Lang suggests, could this bsod be related entirely to IE? You
have nothing to lose going to eventvwr.msc>system>arrow down to time and
look for errors then application>arrow down to time of crash and look for
errors--also the exact BSOD error message should be searchable although we
all know that many causes can be ascribed to certain stop errors.

There are also stop error web sites by the dozens. I haven't seen a
complete stop error message from anyone.

CH

m][ke said:
I have the same problem when opening up certain profiles in myspace... I
have
a new ACER laptop... but I was able to open those same profiles when I
startup in safe mode with networking... and I have no problem opening
those
profiles in my other PC still running XP... any idea?

Chad Harris said:
I would expect though that MSFT would be able to supply a compatible
driver
for you until then. Check MSFT update. What driver are you using
now--probably a default one supplied by Vista but it had to come from
somewhere and some manufacturer.

I'm not sure until we see the error message that either you or Della
gets,
that we can ascribe that BSOD to the same caues--many of those stop
errors
have multiple potential origins.

CH
 
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Lang Murphy

Well, you're right of course... but what I meant to ask was if IE was
throwing an exception within Vista without blue-screening Vista... that's
what happened to me on MySpace but I've never seen a BSOD in Vista. Just
lucky, I guess. Oh, wait, there was a time, during the beta, when the SATA
drivers would cause a BSOD during Vista installation, but other than that,
nope, never seen a BSOD in Vista.

Lang

Chad Harris said:
Well again, as Lang suggests, could this bsod be related entirely to IE?
You have nothing to lose going to eventvwr.msc>system>arrow down to time
and look for errors then application>arrow down to time of crash and look
for errors--also the exact BSOD error message should be searchable
although we all know that many causes can be ascribed to certain stop
errors.

There are also stop error web sites by the dozens. I haven't seen a
complete stop error message from anyone.

CH

m][ke said:
I have the same problem when opening up certain profiles in myspace... I
have
a new ACER laptop... but I was able to open those same profiles when I
startup in safe mode with networking... and I have no problem opening
those
profiles in my other PC still running XP... any idea?

Chad Harris said:
I would expect though that MSFT would be able to supply a compatible
driver
for you until then. Check MSFT update. What driver are you using
now--probably a default one supplied by Vista but it had to come from
somewhere and some manufacturer.

I'm not sure until we see the error message that either you or Della
gets,
that we can ascribe that BSOD to the same caues--many of those stop
errors
have multiple potential origins.

CH

hi there. i have the same problem. it appears to be related to my
ralink network drivers.

this only happens when visiting image heavy websites. the frequency
of
the issue increases when i use tweaks on my browser such as
"fasterfox",
which use more connections per page to download quicker.

perhaps using the ralink gui to handle my network connections would
help, but i cannot find it on the internet. the wireless usb adapter
i'm using is by buffalo, and it does not have official drivers out
yet.
 
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Guest

this is interesting.seems like a lot of this may be driver related. could
also the dsl modem have an effect. when we hooked it up to a cable line. i
could not get it to blue screen. seems to do it while hooked up to dsl modem

Lang Murphy said:
Well, you're right of course... but what I meant to ask was if IE was
throwing an exception within Vista without blue-screening Vista... that's
what happened to me on MySpace but I've never seen a BSOD in Vista. Just
lucky, I guess. Oh, wait, there was a time, during the beta, when the SATA
drivers would cause a BSOD during Vista installation, but other than that,
nope, never seen a BSOD in Vista.

Lang

Chad Harris said:
Well again, as Lang suggests, could this bsod be related entirely to IE?
You have nothing to lose going to eventvwr.msc>system>arrow down to time
and look for errors then application>arrow down to time of crash and look
for errors--also the exact BSOD error message should be searchable
although we all know that many causes can be ascribed to certain stop
errors.

There are also stop error web sites by the dozens. I haven't seen a
complete stop error message from anyone.

CH

m][ke said:
I have the same problem when opening up certain profiles in myspace... I
have
a new ACER laptop... but I was able to open those same profiles when I
startup in safe mode with networking... and I have no problem opening
those
profiles in my other PC still running XP... any idea?

:

I would expect though that MSFT would be able to supply a compatible
driver
for you until then. Check MSFT update. What driver are you using
now--probably a default one supplied by Vista but it had to come from
somewhere and some manufacturer.

I'm not sure until we see the error message that either you or Della
gets,
that we can ascribe that BSOD to the same caues--many of those stop
errors
have multiple potential origins.

CH

hi there. i have the same problem. it appears to be related to my
ralink network drivers.

this only happens when visiting image heavy websites. the frequency
of
the issue increases when i use tweaks on my browser such as
"fasterfox",
which use more connections per page to download quicker.

perhaps using the ralink gui to handle my network connections would
help, but i cannot find it on the internet. the wireless usb adapter
i'm using is by buffalo, and it does not have official drivers out
yet.
 
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Lang Murphy

Well, one has to assume that if the OS is working fine for me and others,
then -most- problems -are- going to be driver related. Am I saying that
there's no chance it could be an OS issue? No.

I assume your DSL/Cable modem is plugged directly into your PC and not into
a router?

Lang
 
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Guest

Most people here use newsreaders. That means we bring all the messages to
our hard drives and read them from the hard drive. Most of us delete the
almost (for me) ten thousand odd files a day if they are more than x days
old (5 days is the default before it automatically gets deleted).

So anyone here who could help you sees this

And if you stop the download when downloading messages from yesterday (say
after 1000 messages) you'll see what I and many others see. Your post saying
something about a solution. And no prior messages although we can tell there
are older ones.

It is also convention that the thread is quoted in each message. Some people
will get them out of order and some have lengthy delays before getting them.
Your message has been duplicated into thousands, if not more, copies, and is
being passed from computer to computer duplicating each time.

Those two reasons are why you quote.

And if you do decide to restate your problem then full accurate error
messages are required. You can probably find them in both Control panel -
Administrative Tools - Event Viewer and Control panel - Problem Reports and
Solutions (and let PRaS check online to see if there already is a fix for
whatever the error is - and only you can do that as the error report is on
your computer).
 

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