Theoretical water cooling idea

[Floyd L. Davidson]

Yeah, especially when half the year is spent under 10 feet of snow.

Bob... are you an idiot, or just trying to pretend to be one?

That's just as dumb as your comments on Eskimos.

We get roughly 24 inches of snow a year here. This is an *arid*
region! A desert, almost as dry as Death Valley. Our average
annual precipitation is less that 5 inches of rain equivalent.

Thanks, but I grew up in snow and swore I would never live around it
again. Too many frozen fingers and toes.

Well, smart people don't have that problem. I've never frozen either
a finger or a toe. I did freeze the tip of my nose a few times, and
that is because I wear glasses and they have to be out in the wind or
they fog up.

The *nice* thing here is that it is almost always both clean and dry.
It only rains much in September. And it's only muddy then and right
now. From October through early May it does not rain at all, and
hardly at all from May through August. I love it.

Plus, life here is nothing but one grand adventure. All day, every
day. And everyone you deal with is adventurous, from the kids to
the old timers. We *live* life.

 

[Floyd L. Davidson]

Not where I live. In Houston, summer begins in May and ends in
November. Anytime I am forced to run the a/c, that's summer.

We have 4 seasons too - December, January, February and Summer.

Houston is a ghod-awful place. I visited once, and as the plane
touched down the guy in the seat in front of me said in a loud
voice, "Yep, it's Houston! Touch the ground and the windows
fogged up!" And it was true!

Of course now I understand your other comments. You're a TEXAN!

I met a few while in Houston. They were driving me around town
as we were headed for lunch, and pointed out a museum and told
me it had everything important about Texas on display there. I
suggested that I'd like to finish up work an hour early and go
take a look at it! They guy asked my why I'd want look at
everything 4 times...

And I'll resist telling what they said the difference between a
pig farmer and a Texan is. (For several years my immediate
supervisor was a fellow who'd grown up on a pig farm. I used to
just delight in introducing him to people as a "former pig
farmer". Which embarrassed him a bit, because the only time in
my whole life that I've ever developed a stutter was when
introducing him. "A former pig fa- fa- fuh- f-ARMER." The
first time I did that, he literally thought I was going to say
something else, and this was three nice sweet ladies from the
corporate offices in Atlanta, who might not have understood...
but they did just about die laughing at how red his face got.)

 

[kony]

I'm not sure that is viable. A probe right on the cpu would
work. But any place else and what you get if the coolant leaks
out... is a nice normal temperature.

It may not be necessary to have the sensor inside of the
pipe. Simply having it (epoxied?) attached to a metal
portion like the CPU block, would work.

Some types of flow sensors use a temp sensor anyway, they
have a heating element bound to a thermal sensor and are
calibrated per the expected environement, then the
approxiation of flow is determined by the temp the sensor
reports.

A temperature sensor would have a rather complex algorithm to
determine a lack of coolant. When it is first started, that
"idle" temperature is the same temperature it would go towards
if a coolant leak occurs. Both a high temp and a low temp would
have meaning, and both would be rather slow in comparison to
the temperature of the cpu.

It may depend on whether the pump can run dry.
If so then the lower limit is unimportant, simply having a
maximal threshold would be sufficient to guard against
overheating, but wouldn't in itself immedately warn of
leakage (but then flow sensors may not either, immediately,
depending on the configuration of the system)

In good commercial liquid cooled system I've worked with there
was a flow switch that worked as an instant interlock to shut
the system down if there was no flow.

One system which used convection to circulate the liquid did not
have any way to detect a lack of coolant. And don't you know
that at some point in its life whoever was maintaining it had
failed to keep the reservoir full, and it had overheated! There
were black marks from the heat burnt into the finish... That
was a Collins MX-106 microwave, and one of the worst examples of
poor engineering out of the many that Collins/Rockwell produced
over the years. Collins made a lot of really good HF equipment,
and a huge pile of junk for microwave and telecom.

I'd consider the flow switch more appropriate for that
equipment because of it's higher value. Note that *most* PC
water-cooling systems do not have a flow sensor.

Another interesting twist on system lifespan might be
finding a plastic-composition heatsink. That should help
prevent some of the more common radiator failings... though
such a custom solution is also bound to be far more
expensive than an "off-the-rack" radiator designed for
common goods.

 

[Bob]

Bob... are you an idiot, or just trying to pretend to be one?

I'll let you figure that out.

That's just as dumb as your comments on Eskimos.
LOL

We get roughly 24 inches of snow a year here.

That's 24 inches too much for me.

Plus, life here is nothing but one grand adventure. All day, every
day. And everyone you deal with is adventurous, from the kids to
the old timers. We *live* life.

Life in Houston is an adventure too - only it's in the 21st Century.


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[Bob]

Houston is a ghod-awful place.

Not true. Houston is the only place on Earth where you can make it if
you really want to. If you can't make it in Houston, you will never
make it anywhere else in the world.

The first word spoken by the first man to step foot on the Moon was
"Houston".

I visited once, and as the plane
touched down the guy in the seat in front of me said in a loud
voice, "Yep, it's Houston! Touch the ground and the windows
fogged up!" And it was true!

Of course it's true. But only for 7 months of the year. And Houston
doesn't have the worst weather in Texas because of the sea breeze.
It's actually worse in Dallas.

Of course now I understand your other comments. You're a TEXAN!

Yep. The US President is a TEXAN too.

"Our country's a place of limitless hopes and
possibilities, and nowhere is that spirit more
alive than in the great nation of Texas."
--GW Bush, U.S. President from Texas

I met a few while in Houston. They were driving me around town
as we were headed for lunch, and pointed out a museum and told
me it had everything important about Texas on display there. I
suggested that I'd like to finish up work an hour early and go
take a look at it! They guy asked my why I'd want look at
everything 4 times...

As the saying goes, "Texas is a whole other country!"

And I'll resist telling what they said the difference between a
pig farmer and a Texan is. (For several years my immediate
supervisor was a fellow who'd grown up on a pig farm. I used to
just delight in introducing him to people as a "former pig
farmer". Which embarrassed him a bit, because the only time in
my whole life that I've ever developed a stutter was when
introducing him. "A former pig fa- fa- fuh- f-ARMER." The
first time I did that, he literally thought I was going to say
something else, and this was three nice sweet ladies from the
corporate offices in Atlanta, who might not have understood...
but they did just about die laughing at how red his face got.)

Q: Do you know the difference between Alaskan cowboy boots and Texan
cowboy boots?

A: With Texan cowboy boots the shit is on the outside.


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[Bob]

What did you have for supper? Was it alive once? If not, you
aren't either. And just in case you don't understand,
*somebody* clubbed your dinner to death, one way or another. If
that makes an Eskimo primative, it makes *you* primative.

The good news is that I don't have to do the clubbing.

Your statement is either abjectly stupid or simply racist.

You are either abjectly stupid or simply racist.

I am trying to poke fun, but it is lost on you. That means you have
deep-rooted personal reasons to behave the way you do. Could it be
because you know deep down that you are lying about how wonderful life
in some podunk outpost in the middle of nowhere.

But you probably think T-bone steak is a manufactured product,
eh?

It is, if it doesn't come from Texas.

Most beef is manufactured at feed lots. But Certified Angus beef from
Texas is naturally range fed.


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[CBFalconer]

(e-mail address removed) (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
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Yep. The US President is a TEXAN too.

"Our country's a place of limitless hopes and
possibilities, and nowhere is that spirit more
alive than in the great nation of Texas."
--GW Bush, U.S. President from Texas

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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we." -- G. W. Bush.
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism
and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country." -- Hermann Goering.

 

[~misfit~]

The good news is that I don't have to do the clubbing.


You are either abjectly stupid or simply racist.

You're both racist. The term "Eskimo" is a derogatory one that means 'eaters
of raw fish' and was the name the nieghbouring southerly tribe called them.
Their name for themselves is Inuit and anyone who has had anything to do
with an Inuit will know that they dislike the term "Eskimo".

 

[Floyd L. Davidson]

You're both racist.

From what was said?

The term "Eskimo" is a derogatory one that means 'eaters
of raw fish' and was the name the nieghbouring southerly tribe called them.

That simply isn't true. And tell us exactly how anyone would be
insulting an Eskimo by talking about eating raw fish?

Their name for themselves is Inuit and anyone who has had anything to do
with an Inuit will know that they dislike the term "Eskimo".

Anyone who had anything to do with??? Did you notice my
signature lines? My bet is you've never seen an Eskimo in your
life, and here you are lecturing me about them???

The second thing you need to know is that I have grandchildren
who speak Yup'ik Eskimo as a first language. Their parents are
Yup'ik. The only person in the immediate family who is not, is
me. If you trouble yourself to look it up, Yup'ik is Central
Alaskan Yupik Eskimo.

Yupik people are Eskimos, and are not Inuit. Inuit people are
Eskimos, and are not Yupik.

The term Eskimo just happens to be the *only* all combining word,
for Eskimo people, culture, or language, available in the English
language. And if you call Yupik people Inuit, they don't like it.
For that matter, most "Inuit" people in Alaska don't like that term
either! They call themselves Inupiat.

Do a web search on Jose Mailhot and on Ives Goddard to learn more
about it. These are the references you are looking for:

Mailhot, Jose, L'etymologie de *esquimau' revuew et
corrigee. In: Etudes/Inuit/Studies 2(2): 59-69.

Handbook of North American Indians, Vol. 5 (Arctic), p6

See http://linguistlist.org/issues/7/7-300.html for more
discussion.

Quyanaqpuk.

 

[Bob]

That simply isn't true. And tell us exactly how anyone would be
insulting an Eskimo by talking about eating raw fish?

I eat raw fish. Does that make me an Eskimo?

I buy farm-raised, red-dyed Atlantic salmon and smoke it to about
100F. That means it is still "raw". I also soak the raw salmon in salt
and brown sugar followed up with a lemon juice poach (called gravlox),
It is some of the best eating known to man.

Having abundant salmon is one reason to want to live in Alaska. I
assume it's readily available in filet form for under $1 per pound.

 

[CBFalconer]

I eat raw fish. Does that make me an Eskimo?

I buy farm-raised, red-dyed Atlantic salmon and smoke it to about
100F. That means it is still "raw". I also soak the raw salmon in salt
and brown sugar followed up with a lemon juice poach (called gravlox),
It is some of the best eating known to man.

And you don't catch it yourself due to the environmental problems
that have ended the Dennys River salmon runs in the past two
decades. Principal among which, IMO, is the practice of
clearcutting and spraying to inhibit hardwoods. Another is the
discovery of the salmons ocean habitat by the Icelanders.

This does appear to be getting slightly OT

 

[Bob]

And you don't catch it yourself due to the environmental problems
that have ended the Dennys River salmon runs in the past two
decades. Principal among which, IMO, is the practice of
clearcutting and spraying to inhibit hardwoods. Another is the
discovery of the salmons ocean habitat by the Icelanders.

I like the farm-raised Atlantic salmon but not the price. $5 is too
much to pay. I want to see more like $3.

This does appear to be getting slightly OT

So what? God gave everyone a DEL key. If they don't like the posts,
then they can delete them.

 

[kony]

I eat raw fish. Does that make me an Eskimo?

No it makes you a pelican.

 

[TW]

Aside from the obviously large amount of space being taken up...

Could a water cooler, (like the common free standing 4-5ft tall including
huge water jug) be used as a water cooler for a standard home computer ?

I have a better idea, buy a small fridg or wine cooler $100 give or
take. and build the motherboard inside.

They are very quiet. and cold beer is nearby, hehe..

 

[Bob]

I have a better idea, buy a small fridg or wine cooler $100 give or
take. and build the motherboard inside.

They are very quiet. and cold beer is nearby, hehe..

I'll drink to that!