Norton AntiVirus 2004 and product activation?

[@drian]

Is the activation in Norton AntiVirus 2004 the same as the one in
Windows XP?

http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_pro/pa.html

@drian.

 

[Nicholas]

Both Windows XP and Norton 2004 products require Product
Activation in accordance with their respective licensing agreements.

I don't understand what you're asking.....

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Nicholas

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| Is the activation in Norton AntiVirus 2004 the same as the one in
| Windows XP?
|
| http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_pro/pa.html
|
| @drian.
|
|

 

[David Jones]

They're different.

The goal is the same, but it is not the exact same
formula/algorithm/etc.

 

[purplehaz]

Another reason to get rid of nortons........

 

[djs]

x-no-archive: yes

when did 2004 come out?

Very recently. As I write this, it's available as download only (not
boxed).

 

[djs]

x-no-archive: yes

Is the activation in Norton AntiVirus 2004 the same as the one in
Windows XP?

http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_pro/pa.html

I love this quote:

"[Symantec Product Activation] authenticates each product to protect
USERS from pirated or counterfeit software." (stress mine)

See? It protects YOU, not THEM!

They must think their customers are morons. But then, they're probably
right by and large.

 

[kurttrail]

Another reason to get rid of nortons........

I glad they are giving me a good reason to go with free alternatives to
their products when my updates run out.

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[djs]

x-no-archive: yes

x-no-archive: yes

Is the activation in Norton AntiVirus 2004 the same as the one in
Windows XP?

http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_pro/pa.html

I love this quote:

"[Symantec Product Activation] authenticates each product to protect
USERS from pirated or counterfeit software." (stress mine)

See? It protects YOU, not THEM!

They must think their customers are morons. But then, they're
probably right by and large.

Too many free alternatives to Norton AV to put up with another
"activation". Just don't purchase any product that requires
activation. When they begin to lose business they'll come off the
activation bit real fast.

Intuit's Turbo Tax 2002 is a good example of customer dissatisfaction
with their activation scheme. Intuit has removed activation from
their Turbo Tax 2003 program because of lost sales.

MS can hold out longer than anyone because they have more assets and a
pretty solid monopoly.

I didn't realize that PC-cillin had its own sort of activation until I
had already bought it.

But there is no way that Symantec will be hurt enough by PA to pull it.
They're the industry AV leader, and people just use it "becuz I've herd
of it" (key word "herd").

 

[Nicholas]

Honest folks that abide by software licensing agreements should
not have a problem with Product Activation requirements.


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| | Probably for the technical information. Norton's site is incredibly
| (deliberately?) vague about details as to what would happen if your
| computer's hardware changes, if you move your copy from one system to
| another, if you wish to reinstall your software, etc. It doesn't even
| specify what information is being sent to Norton to complete the
| activation.
|
| Stupid, sales-killing move, IMO. I'm certainly going to recommend to my
| colleagues to steer clear of them.
|
| --
| Ian Merrithew - ADM Systems Engineering
| ian.merrithew "at" ieee.org

 

[kurttrail]

Is the activation in Norton AntiVirus 2004 the same as the one in
Windows XP?

http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_pro/pa.html

@drian.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5068370.html?tag=fdfeed

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[djs]

Wow--what a unique perspective on the subject. /eye roll

The truth is that it's the "honest folks" who are inconvenienced by
product activation requirements--while the scumbags find a way around it
anyway.

 

[Nicholas]

Define "inconvenience". Are you inconvenienced when you get
a new credit card and have to activate it by telephone?

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Nicholas

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| Wow--what a unique perspective on the subject. /eye roll
|
| The truth is that it's the "honest folks" who are inconvenienced by
| product activation requirements--while the scumbags find a way around it
| anyway.

 

[djs]

x-no-archive: yes

Go to hell. I am *not* a criminal, and I'll be damned if I'll be
treated as a possible criminal because some corporate fatcat doesn't
think he's making enough money off software sales any more.

The very *idea* that corporate scuzbags have any right to police *my
fair-use rights* to retail software I have *legally purchased* for
use in *my home* is unacceptable. And on top of that, to
*intentionally program their application to break* if they so much as
*suspect* I'm in violation? I only tolerate activation in WindowsXP
because I'm not ready to make a switch to Linux, and Win98 is no
longer acceptable to me, performance-wise. I swallowed a very bitter
pill when I finally plunked down the cash for XP, let me tell you.

If copyright holders don't like that, they can try and get the
fair-use laws changed so they *can* get a say in what I do in the
privacy of my home, and have to explain to the government why
legislation that has served the public for decades is to be
rewritten, and why the ever- advancing technology of easier digital
duplication is a bad thing (in their eyes) for society.

Great post. Can you imagine having to call a record company's phone
number to "activate" an audio CD you bought, for the privilege of having
it work in your vehicle's CD player? I bet some goofballs would defend
that practice, too.

 

[djs]

x-no-archive: yes

"But here's the real stunner, aside from the price. The Vole also
removed the need for product activation for Windows XP in Thailand,
at the government's request." -
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11058

Well, if THAT doesn't point out what crap WPA is, nothing does.
Thailand has a massive piracy rate of 77%, yet Microsoft sees fit to
disable WPA for them, but in the USA where piracy is at ~24%, it's
enabled. Yeah, that makes sense. No, it has nothing to do with
marketing leverage and monopolistic practices, and what they will get
away with as a result. (Neither does the
five-critical-patches-per-month routine. No, really.)

 

[@drian]

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5068370.html?tag=fdfeed

Thanks for the news link.

@drian.

 

[@drian]

Both Windows XP and Norton 2004 products require Product

Activation in accordance with their respective licensing agreements.

I'm aware of that, so what? What's your point?

I don't understand what you're asking.....

OK, spelled out; is the activation system in Norton AntiVirus 2004 the
same system that Windows XP uses? Of course, that's a question which
you don't need to answer. I've seen the answer already.

@drian.

 

[@drian]

Define "inconvenience". Are you inconvenienced when you get

a new credit card and have to activate it by telephone?

Yeah sure, when I dial their activation phone number, wait 10-15
minutes to get to a live voice, am grilled with six or seven security
questions, then while actually activating the card, they try to sell
me two or three $2.95/month services which I don't need and after all
that - it's activated.

@drian.

 

[@drian]

Because unlike yourself, someone in this newsgroup may have a clue.

@drian.

 

[Michael Stevens]

You see, Carey, while MS has a virtual monopoly on the consumer
desktop, and can coerce it's customers into accepting PA for the time
being anyway, MS's BSA partners aren't so lucky. Most have very
viable competition that understand that home users fairly using
software are not thieves, and companies like Symantec, PowerQuest,
Adobe, et al, will learn the same lesson as Intuit; the customer is
always right, or he/she will stop being your customer.

"Today, a copy of the Microsoft Windows operating system or Office
productivity suite costs roughly the same in every country. Windows
XP Home costs $199, for example, and Office XP is priced at $399. But
that changed in Thailand this summer when Microsoft decided to offer
Thai language versions of Windows XP Home and Office Standard Edition
for a mere $40." -
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/25/HNwindowsprice_1.html

What exactly is the current exchange rate the mere $40 would compare to in
US dollars?

Just curious?
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[djs]

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What exactly is the current exchange rate the mere $40 would compare
to in US dollars?

Just curious?

What do you mean? The $40 is in USD.