Norton AntiVirus 2004 and product activation?

[kurttrail]

What exactly is the current exchange rate the mere $40 would compare
to in US dollars?

Just curious?

$40 is about 1600 Thai Bahts, I think.

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[The Ruzicka Family]

What exactly is the current exchange rate the mere $40 would compare to in
US dollars?

Just curious?

A more germane question might be, what is the cost-of-living index there, as
compared to the US, and what is the average per capita income? For all I
know, the average person there might only make the equivalent of $40 US per
month!

 

[djs]

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A more germane question might be, what is the cost-of-living index
there, as compared to the US, and what is the average per capita
income? For all I know, the average person there might only make the
equivalent of $40 US per month!

http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/industry/0,39001143,39147732,00.htm

"Today, a copy of the Microsoft Windows operating system or Office
productivity suite costs roughly the same in every country. For example,
Windows XP Home is US$199 and Office XP, US$399. Given that the income
of a Thai worker is US$7,000 a year, it would be the equivalent of
charging US$3,000 for the bundle in the U.S., he told CNETAsia."

 

[Mike Mulligan]

So sorry that obeying the law is an inconvenience to you.

Mike Mulligan

 

[purplehaz]

The law? What law would that be? I never knew that activation was a law. The
eula isn't a law either.

 

[Mike Mulligan]

In fact, the EULA is a legally binding contract. You can choose not to be
bound by the contract by not installing the software.

This argument is so old...I can't believe we're still talking about it.

Mike Mulligan

 

[djs]

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Microsoft's Product Activation is "the law"? I thought I obeyed the law
when I paid for my copy of Word 2002, then installed it on only one
system, even though I could easily have defeated the intent of PA and
installed it on all of my systems!

Get over it--there is NO WAY you can defend the serious inconvenience
that I (and no doubt many other) customers went through just because of
Microsoft's botched, intrusive, offensive PA system.

 

[Mike Mulligan]

My friend, you are a knowledgeable and trustworthy contributor to this
group. Lets focus our attention on helping users with their Windows XP
problems.

Mike Mulligan

 

[djs]

You make an excellent point. There are too many accidental design flaws
in the product for us to be spending time on the purposeful design flaws
of the same.

 

[purplehaz]

Ok.

My friend, you are a knowledgeable and trustworthy contributor to this
group. Lets focus our attention on helping users with their Windows XP
problems.

Mike Mulligan

break

 

[Joh N.]

Mike Mulligan, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to

In fact, the EULA is a legally binding contract. You can choose not to be
bound by the contract by not installing the software.

This argument is so old...I can't believe we're still talking about it.

Because it's an extremely pertinent issue, you dimwit!

Joh N.

 

[Kevin Davis³]

In fact, the EULA is a legally binding contract. You can choose not to be
bound by the contract by not installing the software.

Of course you usually don't actually get to *see* the entire EULA
until you've already paid for the product. You will have to open the
package and read it. Then you would have to drive back to the store
to return it, assuming they'll accept the return of opened software.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

So Long Norton’s.

They tell you to get a good virus program
Like Norton’s
Then
Symantec pulls out the Activation Requirement.
What A way to encourage people to update to their latest version. I
supposed the Enterprise version will not require activation. Looks
Like a be saving a lot of Money buy not buying any other products with
activation. Note I wont say how, but their is a way around it. I wont
be buying Norton programs or renewing my subscription. My main beef
with activation. I like to try things out. Let say you install a
bunch of software. Couple of them require activation. Install more
software screws your system Then you have to start from scratch.

^Repeat.
Then eventually you could not reactive your software.

(Note the only reason I got xp-It came with the computer, I just
keeping it updated.)

I use windows98se A lot More. I really think why Microsoft Activation
Succeed is the following.

Microsoft & Oem Contracts.

You Can’t get old systems with Win98se or Windows me unless you can
find a special computer shop to do It.

Wal-Mart Selling Computer for way Under $1000 Us Dollars

Linux Computer Not in A lot of places.

Mac computers Not in a lot of places..

I see us consumer have to stop buying stuff that require activation.
This is the only way. Unless someone consumer group can do a class
action lawsuit.

Just a Note- I not against Companies trying to protect their software
just don’t inconvenience the consumer.

What's Next? When you go to Wal-Mart to buy a Microwave.
You have to call the company to enter a special code before you can
use it.

This Activation Idea is getting crazy.

Doesn’t companies realize this encourages some people to use cracks
the normally would not. I don’t use a crack for the record.

Actual I don’t know if it is legal to use a crack to remove a feature
of the computer you legally bought.

Of Course this is all My opinion & Views and no accusation were meant
against anyone.

Greg P Rozelle

No - it is entirely Symantecs own independent responsibility, and how
they do it I would not know


--=20
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (e-mail address removed)

Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[djs]

So Long Norton’s.

They tell you to get a good virus program
Like Norton’s
Then
Symantec pulls out the Activation Requirement.

I see us consumer have to stop buying stuff that require activation.
This is the only way. Unless someone consumer group can do a class
action lawsuit.

Use Trend Micro PC-cillin. It verifies the registration key, but it
doesn't require activation, per se.

When you install PC-cillin, you enter the serial number for that copy of
PC-cillin, then enter the registration code they provide from that to
register the software. This process is just to ensure that no
individual PC-cillin serial number is installed on more than one system
at a time, and doesn't involve any sort of system profiling. I don't
find the process intrusive or unreasonable, nor has it inconvenienced me
in any substantial way.

And it's also good to know that PC-cillin is at least as good as Norton
AntiVirus at what it does.

http://www.antivirus.com/

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

The activation is so that your virus definition subscription can be
activated. I am glad you are saying goodbye to Norton. As a long time
Norton user, I wouldn't want to be associated with a dummy like you.

Besides, Norton allows activation on 2 computers.

A losing thought...

welcome to my killfile.

Bobby

 

[djs]

What are you talking about? I'm not the one who said "goodbye" to
Norton. I haven't used it in years. Try actually reading the thread
next time, and then replying to--and killfiling--the correct person next
time.

And let's not be stupid here; the activation is not for virus definition
subscriptions. Norton has had virus definition subscriptions for years,
without activation. Rather, activation is an attempt by Symantec to try
to prevent their software from being stolen. And it won't work.

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

I Think Peope who use a kill fill over use it or shouldn't be in a
help group. They should only use it for spam. (You don't have to
download replies, if you don't want to see them.)


Posted so nonobaddog! can see this meassge from Djs.

Greg Rozelle

What are you talking about? I'm not the one who said "goodbye" to
Norton. I haven't used it in years. Try actually reading the thread
next time, and then replying to--and killfiling--the correct person next
time.

And let's not be stupid here; the activation is not for virus definition
subscriptions. Norton has had virus definition subscriptions for years,
without activation. Rather, activation is an attempt by Symantec to try
to prevent their software from being stolen. And it won't work.

Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.

 

[djs]

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Thanks, greg. I didn't feel like bothing with a nym shift.

I think people who feel the need to announce it...
e.g. "you've been killfiled" or "plonk"
....are probably retarded, or damn close.

Is it supposed to hurt somebody's feelings? Oh, too funny, that!

 

[sipowtiz_00]

Honest folks that abide by software licensing agreements should
not have a problem with Product Activation requirements.

Not really. Symantec is talking about limiting activation to 5 times
for it's products. If you have problems and need to wipe your drive
and then get a new drive and then move to another machine you can use
up your activations very quickly. With Windows you can activate as
often as you want. Also you might want to look at the problems that
people had with Inuit's activation.

Bubba

 

[Greg P Rozelle]

What actual happen with Symantec is did bad business by selling their
software to scrupulous dealers vendors, Resellers, e.t.c

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Disclaimer
My advice is as-is. It could trash your system.