Licensing questions

[God]

I'm so scared. Ever hear of the word creditability?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

How is running in a VIRTUAL machine a "second installation "?

How could you possibly think it's anything else? Never used a VM before?


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for me, give me liberty, or give me death! -Patrick Henry

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Exactly! That is my real question.

How can it even remotely be considered anything but a second
installation? Have you never used a VM before? Did you not have to
install the OS within the VM?

Can anyone from Microsoft give
something authoritative about this issue?

The EULA *is* the authoritative source on this question, and you've
already been answered.



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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of
chains and slavery? .... I know not what course others may take, but as
for me, give me liberty, or give me death! -Patrick Henry

 

[God]

The EULA is not the authoritative source on this.

 

[capitan]

Here's a link to a Microsoft page that talks about running virtual server
OS'. No mention of virtual workstation OS'.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/highlights/virtualization.mspx

If anyone can make any sense out of the white papers you can download there
your comprehension skills are better than mine. It's a such grey area that
I'm not sure anyone, even a Microsoft Licensing rep, can give you a
definitive answer. I use Virtual PC a lot for testing. I am licensed to run
up to 10 copies of XP so I know I'm not violating any license agreements.
You could use trial versions of Windows Server software but I don't think
there is a trial version of XP available. Even though I'm covered for
licenses I don't activate any Virtual XP installs. I've never had to run a
test long enough for the activation grace period to run out.

Kerry

Isn't the "trial" version of XP the 30 days you may use it after
installing before activation locks you out?

 

[capitan]

Actually you are wrong and I can tell you exactly why. It doesn't matter
what Microsoft thinks should be in the eula, what matters is the actual law
and applicable case law. There is no way any court of the land would hold
charges against a user for having multiple copies of the same windows
program on the same computer therefore you can have as many as you want on
the same computer and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Personally, I have 2 on mine and if Bill Gates doesn't like it he can kiss
my shiny metal ass.

LOL! God, or Bender?

 

[Kerry Brown]

Isn't the "trial" version of XP the 30 days you may use it after
installing before activation locks you out?

That's what I was trying to hint at. Technically this breaks the terms of
the EULA though.

Kerry

 

[God]

Then why not just have one newsgroup?

No, that would have been no better. If you do decide after the fact that
another newsgroup is necessary, then there's really no way around
multiposting. But note that most of us here follow most of the Windows
newsgroups. You really don't enlarge your audience much by posting to
multiples.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Then why not just have one newsgroup?

I don't get to decide which newsgroups to have, but if I did, I wouldn't
have just one, but I'd have considerably fewer than there are. Too many
overlap or have confusing names.

 

[God]

Do not concern yourself with Microsoft's opinion on this as they are only
concerned about sales and not your rights as a customer.

1. The EULA is very debatable as a legally binding document and even if you
were in violation of law, do you think any court of the land would sustain
charges against a single user doing what you want?

2. The principles of fair use dictate what you can and cannot do with the
software.

3. In the future go to a legal newsgroup to discuss what you can or cannot
do with your legally purchased software.

 

[God]

You have figured it out we are one in the same.

LOL! God, or Bender?