Hey, that's great news. If I get a minute today I'll have a go at that; not sure where I'm going to get the old version from but I'm sure that's no big problem, I suppose it may be available on the roll-back of XP even, fingers crossed. Thank's for letting us know. Have you made crapple software aware of you findings, might be a good idea then they can fix version 7 for all of us?