Home vs. Professional

M

Mark Kent

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Jupiter Jones said:
Since they are essentially the same your generalization is without merit as
most generalizations are.
Can you post specifics to validate your claims or can you only bash Windows
XP with your broken keyboard?

I've never seen anyone put original text *after* a signature before - how
broken is that?

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| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
My favorite sandwich is peanut butter, baloney, cheddar cheese, lettuce
and mayonnaise on toasted bread with catsup on the side.
-- Senator Hubert Humphrey
 
B

Bob Kincade

[QUOTE=""Dutch said:
I believe it was John Bailo who said...

One sucks a little bit worse than the other.

Keep telling yourself that, you might actually believe it someday.[/QUOTE]

No need to tell one's self. Using Windows is enough.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Mark;
You don't like top posting, that is your problem.
As for cross-posting, you should practice what you preach.

As for your other post, much is displayed about your character.
 
G

Guest

begin said:
Mark;
You don't like top posting, that is your problem.

No, it is yours. Only incredibly stupid cretins top-post
But then, you use OE. That's saying it all, really.
As for cross-posting, you should practice what you preach.

Hardly possible, since you know where you post. He doesn't
I also notice that he set a Follow-Up-to. Either you or your totally broken
garbage you use as newsreader chose to ignore that.
*He* was in total compliance with netiquette. You are not
As for your other post, much is displayed about your character.

He has a point, though:

Who is dumb enough to quote *after* a sig?
At least we know now that MVPs are that stupid. Would being a MCSE also
suffice or are those not quite stupid enough?
 
R

Randy Howard

That would be an OEM version, not a retail version. There may be issues with
support in this case. The last time I tried to get support from MS for an
OEM version they referred me to the OEM. I would not think newegg would be
a great place to get technical support for MS software!

It's probably easier to get them to answer your questions than
Microsoft.
 
M

Miss Perspiration Stink

Jupiter Jones said:
Mark;
You don't like top posting, that is your problem.
As for cross-posting, you should practice what you preach.

As for your other post, much is displayed about your character.

Whereas you have no character at all to display.
 
B

BC

Timberwoof said:
No. Any money spent on a Windows is too much.


About two hundred dollars. XP Home also hides a lot of important networking
stuff for you, and makes it impossible for you to set your wireless network SSID
and WEP key after reinstalling the OS. I discovered this today after one of my
cow orkers tried this.
quarters.


Actually it isn't so much that Pro has more features
as that Home is deliberately crippled to artifically
differentiate the two products -- they're the exact
same OS. And both are fragile pieces of crap anyway:
I wasted an evening trying to recover a Dell 2400
running Home from a minor registry hiccup that kept
it from starting, using these direction:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

They didn't work of course so I just reformatted and
put on Windows 2k -- twice the speed and 1/4 the
headaches. I was tempted to put on Windows 98 for 4x
the speed and 1/20 the headaches, but it was for a
friend who wanted at least a Win2K PC.

-BC
 
K

kurttrail

Jupiter said:
Mark;
You don't like top posting, that is your problem.
As for cross-posting, you should practice what you preach.

As for your other post, much is displayed about your character.

They don't care about their character. All they care about is getting
under your skin.

And why is MS allowing all these .scr attachments to be kept on the
server?

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
M

Michael Stevens

In
Jupiter Jones said:
Mark;
You don't like top posting, that is your problem.
As for cross-posting, you should practice what you preach.

As for your other post, much is displayed about your character.

JJ,
It is best not to cross-post to the cola and similar
advocacy groups. They are usually nothing but troll posts and if they are
legit, removing the cola groups will not affect a genuine poster from seeing
the cross-post.
Kurt was trying to stop the comp trolls, but some newsgroup admin idiot was
pulling his posts.
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Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
 
K

kurttrail

Michael said:
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It's pretty amazing, isn't it!!!! None have been pulled as far as I
can determine.

I really can't believe it. I'm half tempted to attached one to one of
my posts and see how fast it gets pulled, as at least two of my posts
have been pulled from the MS server in this thread for no reason at all.

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Lin=F8nut?=

rapskat poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:
begin Error log for Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:59:58 -0700 - Dav Galbraith
caused a page fault at address


Whatever it is you are smoking, I advise that you stop before you render
yourself utterly braindead.

Hell, it costs me $1265 in lost time every time I take a bathroom break.
 
T

Terry Fisher

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, rapskat
<[email protected]>
wrote


I wonder where the hell these particular numbers are coming from.

out of his ass, like everyone else's here

my windows systems cost me $0/year to run after the initial license fee
 
E

Edwin

Carey said:
Windows XP Home Edition Comparison Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.mspx

$165 for a "Full Retail Version" of Windows XP Home Edition is a good price.

Nope.

http://store.viosoftware.biz/wixphoed.html?source=nextag


The suggested retail value is $199.

Suggested retail price is nothing more than the maker's idea of the
price a product should be sold for. It has no bearing on the real
value of the item. Places that advertise selling below "suggested
retail price" are seldom, if ever, giving you any real savings, which
would come from the difference between what the reseller actually paid
for it, and the price he's selling it for.
 
F

foo

About two hundred dollars.
True.

XP Home also hides a lot of important networking
stuff for you,

If you consider domains important, which most wouldn't in a home
environment.
and makes it impossible for you to set your wireless network SSID
and WEP key after reinstalling the OS.
False.

I discovered this today after one of my
cow orkers tried this.

I'd be happy to look at it, but Home doesn't change SSID/WEP data at
all, and you can *always* use the vendor's (GUI, as opposed to SP2's)
methods to change whatever you want. You have another issue unrelated
to XP Home.

Let me clarify - under XPSP2 there's significant wireless
functionality added so you can configure a lot (SSID, WEP keys, etc.)
for your wireless adapter. However, prior to XPSP2 (and also after)
vendors shipped (and do continue to ship) their own GUI utilities (for
those customers not using SP2 yet, or for added functionality) and
those have always worked - and will continue to work.

So perhaps you mean something else? Can you clarify?
 
F

foo

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=37-102-151&depa=0

That would be an OEM version, not a retail version. There may be issues with
support in this case. The last time I tried to get support from MS for an
OEM version they referred me to the OEM. I would not think newegg would be
a great place to get technical support for MS software!

You can always pay for support - I think it's $35 for personal use (XP
Home) incidents and $245 for Pro/Server/etc. issues.
 
F

foo

quarters.


Actually it isn't so much that Pro has more features
as that Home is deliberately crippled to artifically
differentiate the two products -- they're the exact
same OS. And both are fragile pieces of crap anyway:
I wasted an evening trying to recover a Dell 2400
running Home from a minor registry hiccup that kept
it from starting, using these direction:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

They didn't work of course so I just reformatted and
put on Windows 2k -- twice the speed and 1/4 the
headaches. I was tempted to put on Windows 98 for 4x
the speed and 1/20 the headaches, but it was for a
friend who wanted at least a Win2K PC.

Given that under Win2k you'd do *exactly* the same thing if you have a
corrupt registry (and really, it's very simple - I can't imagine why
you had a problem - you probably didn't know how to fix the registry
once you'd booted from the original version found in
c:\windows\repair), so I don't see why you say Win2k is any different
here.

Safemode didn't work, I'm assuming. What actually happened with the
machine? What was the error?
 
K

Ken Blake

In
You can always pay for support - I think it's $35 for personal
use (XP
Home) incidents and $245 for Pro/Server/etc. issues.


Lack of Microsoft support for OEM versions is, to me, the least
of the reasons to not buy an OEM versions. There are lots of
other places to get support--here, for example.

Far and away the biggest disadvantage of an OEM version, as far
as I'm concerned, is that its license ties it permanently to the
first computer it's installed on. It can never legally be moved
to another computer, sold, or given away.
 
K

kurttrail

Ken said:
In


Lack of Microsoft support for OEM versions is, to me, the least
of the reasons to not buy an OEM versions. There are lots of
other places to get support--here, for example.

Far and away the biggest disadvantage of an OEM version, as far
as I'm concerned, is that its license ties it permanently to the
first computer it's installed on. It can never legally be moved
to another computer, sold, or given away.

Legally has nothing to do with it. MS's EULA is not a law unto itself.

And prior to SP1, the EULA specifically tied the software to the
hardware it was sold with.

And SP1 also allows the sale of OEM XP with the computer that it was
sold with. After that sale the new End User can upgrade that computer
as much as they want, since MS's OEM EULA does not even mention that a
computer can be upgraded to a point that it becomes a different
computer. Since that isn't spelled out, the End User has EVERY right to
come to their own conclusion on that matter.


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