R
Rick
Who cares?
Bailo, you're an idiot.
Who cares?
Bailo, you're an idiot.
T
The Ghost In The Machine
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, TCS
<[email protected]>
wrote
Bear in mind the upgrade is exactly that; it must be installed
on a computer that has been running Win98, if memory serves.
If the OP is building a new 'puter that is not an option (unless
he installs a copy of Win98 first, *then* the upgrade).
I'll admit I'd prefer $0.
$165 isn't great but it's
better than the MSRP for the full product, which at one
point was $299 (it's probably $199 now).
Considering, however, that one can buy computers for less than
$200 from Walmart with Xandros installed thereon, one has to
wonder how Microsoft can justify $165 for the OS.
Shades of NT Workstation and NT server... *smirk*
<[email protected]>
wrote
Bear in mind the upgrade is exactly that; it must be installed
on a computer that has been running Win98, if memory serves.
If the OP is building a new 'puter that is not an option (unless
he installs a copy of Win98 first, *then* the upgrade).
I'll admit I'd prefer $0.
$165 isn't great but it'sbetter than the MSRP for the full product, which at one
point was $299 (it's probably $199 now).
Considering, however, that one can buy computers for less than
$200 from Walmart with Xandros installed thereon, one has to
wonder how Microsoft can justify $165 for the OS.
Shades of NT Workstation and NT server... *smirk*
T
The Ghost In The Machine
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, (e-mail address removed)
<[email protected]>
wrote
If one squints real hard, it sure appears that way. However,
Microsoft still gets paid, methinks.
<[email protected]>
wrote
If one squints real hard, it sure appears that way. However,
Microsoft still gets paid, methinks.
T
Terry Fisher
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
nay, all wndows upgrades historically have allowed you to install them on
a blank (even unparitioned) hard disk and you need only provide proof
of ownership (by inserting a CD) of the old product.
because they sold windows for $165 before xandros came out and lowering the
price now would look bad for them. not that xandros is as good anyhow.
the nt server kernel was tuned differently than wkstation but you could tinker
that in the registry.
nay, all wndows upgrades historically have allowed you to install them on
a blank (even unparitioned) hard disk and you need only provide proof
of ownership (by inserting a CD) of the old product.
I'll admit I'd prefer $0.
better than the MSRP for the full product, which at one
point was $299 (it's probably $199 now).
Considering, however, that one can buy computers for less than
$200 from Walmart with Xandros installed thereon, one has to
wonder how Microsoft can justify $165 for the OS.
because they sold windows for $165 before xandros came out and lowering the
price now would look bad for them. not that xandros is as good anyhow.
Shades of NT Workstation and NT server... *smirk*
the nt server kernel was tuned differently than wkstation but you could tinker
that in the registry.
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
FALSE.
You can perform a Clean Installation with either Windows XP Pro or Home
Upgrades.
If a qualifying OS is not installed, you will be asked to insert the CD for
a few seconds for verification.
Also, there are many qualifying products beyond Windows 98 including Windows
95 and others:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/matrix.mspx
You can perform a Clean Installation with either Windows XP Pro or Home
Upgrades.
If a qualifying OS is not installed, you will be asked to insert the CD for
a few seconds for verification.
Also, there are many qualifying products beyond Windows 98 including Windows
95 and others:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/matrix.mspx
T
Tom Shelton
Actually, no. All it means is that you have to have valid install media
from a qualifying product... So, you can install to a new system with
acompletely blank hardrive with the upgrade version. It just stops and
asks you to insert the installition medium from a qualifying product.
It checks it, and then moves on...
Or has a windows 98 install disk.
I'll admit I'd prefer $0.
better than the MSRP for the full product, which at one
point was $299 (it's probably $199 now).
$299 is for Pro. It's $199 for home. It has not changed, AFIK.
They don't. OEM copyies are substantially less. That's only for the
full retail product (which lets you install on one desktop + one
laptop).
Shades of NT Workstation and NT server... *smirk*
Pretty much. Home is intentionally crippled.
B
B Gruff
Home XP retails (full product) at typically £150 (incl SP2) here in
the UK. At today's rates, that's 280 USD
- but as the guy said, "It's free with a new computer"!
Bill
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Ken Blake
In
Sorry, but that's not at all correct.
The requirement to use an upgrade version is to *own* a previous
qualifying version's installation CD (with an OEM restore CD, see
below), not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a
previous qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to
insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous
version's CD, and follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite
normally and quite legitimately.
You can also do a clean install if you have an OEM restore CD of
a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but it
*can* be done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the XP
upgrade CD from within that restored system, and change from
Upgrade to New Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete
the partition and start over.
Sorry, but that's not at all correct.
The requirement to use an upgrade version is to *own* a previous
qualifying version's installation CD (with an OEM restore CD, see
below), not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a
previous qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to
insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous
version's CD, and follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite
normally and quite legitimately.
You can also do a clean install if you have an OEM restore CD of
a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but it
*can* be done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the XP
upgrade CD from within that restored system, and change from
Upgrade to New Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete
the partition and start over.
L
Lee Chapelle
Sam Spade said:
They sure have a lot of nerve charging money for their products!
Yea, you tell 'em Sam, other operating systems are WAAAY better!
erm.. remind us why that is again...
L
Lee Chapelle
Greyfrog said:
No, THIS isn't.
No, where does the real computer pro?
L
Lee Chapelle
"Phil Da Lick!" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
Your operating system doesn't even have capital letters!
wrote in message
Your operating system doesn't even have capital letters!
A
Al Smith
I just bought Home XP for $165 ( full version, not upgrade )
That's what's known as the Microsoft tax. Almost every PC sold has it.
That's what's known as the Microsoft tax. Almost every PC sold has it.
G
Grug
John said:
You can get XP Pro for 145 full edition oem if you buy some 'hardware'
with it... like a cable or something... lol
Personally, with Dell selling computers for <350, I'd just get an all
new box with the OS already installed.
Not too much... just can't join domains and a few other things.
-Grug
J
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
Since they are essentially the same your generalization is without merit as
most generalizations are.
Can you post specifics to validate your claims or can you only bash Windows
XP with your broken keyboard?
"Phil Da Lick!" <[email protected]>
wrote in message > pro is crap, home is worse
most generalizations are.
Can you post specifics to validate your claims or can you only bash Windows
XP with your broken keyboard?
"Phil Da Lick!" <[email protected]>
wrote in message > pro is crap, home is worse
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Tom
Tom Shelton said:
This is incorrect, a retail version of XP (or any) MS operating system, does
not allow a second installation on any other kind of system, Laptop or
Desktop according to the EULA. Certain Office suites have this allowance.
T
Terry Fisher
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
this is COLA... that's all they know here.
this is COLA... that's all they know here.
K
kurttrail
Jupiter said:
This would be one of the COLA trolls, Juppy. Have fun.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
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Dav Galbraith
John Bailo said:
incredibly bad deal.
Basically any version of Windows XP will cost you $1,412 in support and
time wasted per year.
The Linux OS is a little better in that it costs you $1,265 to run and
maintain a Linux System.
The Mac actually PAYS you $410 per year since you can get much more done
without Computer or OS issues. It's really the way to go if you are
tired of tinkering with a half baked OS. Ask any mac user and they will
give you an honest answer.
http://www.apple.com/macosx
Also Apple has much better hardware than the Windows or Linux world.
http://www.apple.com/hardware/
And of course a far better software selection
http://www.apple.com/software/
http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/
If you are "smart" you use a Mac, if not, you use Windows or Linux.
K
kurttrail
Jupiter said:
ROFL! You are arguing with "Phil Da Lick!" He is just trolling for
your kind of response.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
T
Terry Fisher
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
where did you get that number from?
thanks for the stats, they were really funny.
where did you get that number from?
thanks for the stats, they were really funny.