Cannot copy files in use?

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I tried to do a drag and drop back up but it aborted as it
said some files were being used.
How can I get round this?
Boot up in safe mode?
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well.. I know some files in use don't. some do.
open a txt file in notepad, it copies fine.
I guess it depends which process is locking it.

xxcopy(an improvement to xcopy) may be able to copy any file whether
in use or not.

If you burn a copy of Bart PE Load that up. It's like a Win XP Live
CD. Then you could copy them, any way you want. 'cos no process will
lock them.
 
I tried to do a drag and drop back up but it aborted as it
said some files were being used.
How can I get round this?
Boot up in safe mode?
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Almost every person that has tried responding to you, has no answer,
and those insulting you (Like this (MVP?) gary turhune. ) or even
those telling you to buy software(as if you're not aware of imaging or
backing up software), really don't even merit your response.
 
And it will STILL be useless as a full system backup.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

I tried to do a drag and drop back up but it aborted as it
said some files were being used.
How can I get round this?
Boot up in safe mode?
Click to expand...

well.. I know some files in use don't. some do.
open a txt file in notepad, it copies fine.
I guess it depends which process is locking it.

xxcopy(an improvement to xcopy) may be able to copy any file whether
in use or not.

If you burn a copy of Bart PE Load that up. It's like a Win XP Live
CD. Then you could copy them, any way you want. 'cos no process will
lock them.
 
It is remarkable simiilar!!
Anyhow here are some programs you can buy to clone a windows98 drive.http://www.qweas.com/download/system/disk_tools/spotmau_disk_clone_ba...

Of course if you don't like dlushing money down the bog you can do it for
nowt!!

Anyhow it is just data on a drive. If XP is not running I don't see how it
can
stop me copying it.

Anyway I might have a solution here!!

 http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/larry/generalities/gparted.htm

Ubuntu isn't remotely similar to windows. Nobody told you? :O)
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imaging and copying files are a bit different.

there are free ways to image a drive. Free imaging programs.

xxclone might be free

apparently xxcopy has a /clone switch. Which I guess would do an
image rather than a file backup.

apparently hard drive manufacturers often give free programs to image
a drive, see their site.

the payware favourite would be acronis, and with second favourite -
norton ghost
 
Yup, it's a case of one idiot supporting another.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

It is remarkable simiilar!!
Anyhow here are some programs you can buy to clone a windows98
drive.http://www.qweas.com/download/system/disk_tools/spotmau_disk_clone_ba...

Of course if you don't like dlushing money down the bog you can do it for
nowt!!

Anyhow it is just data on a drive. If XP is not running I don't see how it
can
stop me copying it.

Anyway I might have a solution here!!

http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/larry/generalities/gparted.htm

Ubuntu isn't remotely similar to windows. Nobody told you? :O)
Click to expand...


imaging and copying files are a bit different.

there are free ways to image a drive. Free imaging programs.

xxclone might be free

apparently xxcopy has a /clone switch. Which I guess would do an
image rather than a file backup.

apparently hard drive manufacturers often give free programs to image
a drive, see their site.

the payware favourite would be acronis, and with second favourite -
norton ghost
 
John John (MVP) said:
They may "look" the same but under the hood the two operating systems are
anything but similar! If you insist that they are then you are only
kidding yourself.
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They are both stored on a magnetic disk I believe.
They are very similar.
 
ROFL!

So, you get all the files copied to another location. Please explain how you
use that collection of files to restore a fully functioning system to
another partition.

Or are you just a fellow idiot who thinks the other idiot shouldn't be
picked on? Idiot got a real and perfectly true answer and refused to accept
it. Thinks Windows 98 and XP are essentially the same. "Idiot", "stupid" and
any similar words applied to the fool aren't just insults, they're FACTS!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

I tried to do a drag and drop back up but it aborted as it
said some files were being used.
How can I get round this?
Boot up in safe mode?
Click to expand...

Almost every person that has tried responding to you, has no answer,
and those insulting you (Like this (MVP?) gary turhune. ) or even
those telling you to buy software(as if you're not aware of imaging or
backing up software), really don't even merit your response.
 
No, but strangely enough, I AM an A** hole, <s>.

But that's totally OT. The issue is whether or not you can simply copy all
of the files from a Windows XP installation to some location and then simply
copy them to an empty partition and make it work. And every word out of your
mouth proves my contention: That you're an idiot.
 
I've been asking this question a lot lately but no one answers me, maybe
you will, Gary.
How is it possible to be so dumb?
 
Bazzer said:
They are both stored on a magnetic disk I believe.
They are very similar.
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A Lada and a Lamborghini both ride on four rubber tires. They are very
similar. I have a Lada for you here, you can have it for the bargain
price of $250,000.

John
 
John John (MVP) said:
A Lada and a Lamborghini both ride on four rubber tires. They are very
similar. I have a Lada for you here, you can have it for the bargain
price of $250,000.
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Yes mechanicallthey are almost identical apart from a few bells and
whistles.
Take the wheels for example, both the same design, one costs £50 the other
costs £5,000.
Tell you what will give you £300 for you Lambrghini, actually I would not
buy it at all at any price except so sell on to some mug.
Wait untill you take it for a service, you won't be laughing then I can
assuer
you.
 
Bazzer said:
Yes mechanicallthey are almost identical apart from a few bells and
whistles.
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What a fsking joke! Only a dunce would would claim that a Lamborghini
and a Lada are almost mechanically identical!

John
 
John John (MVP) said:
What a fsking joke! Only a dunce would would claim that a Lamborghini and
a Lada are almost mechanically identical!
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Only an idiot woudl deny it.
Same engine, same transmission, same suspendion, same cooling, same
clutch, same brakes, same tyres, same sunroof, need I do on?
 
And it will STILL be useless as a full system backup.
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Looking at his first few posts - i'm not going to read all of them
because it is just you provoking him and him spewing back.

It is clear from that, he just -said- he wanted to copy files in use.

If he meant something else, then that's his problem. I'll first answer
the question he asked.

He didn't say that he wanted copy his OS -for free, but I mentioned
the cloning solutions anyway, since later he complained that people
mentioned -payware- cloning solutions.

Your term "full system backup" is a bit nonsensical.. Even cloning
only works partition by partition. So with that one backs up whichever
partition he wants to backup, and if that is all of them, then so be
it. And if that is on all hard drives, then so be it.
It may be that some offer a backup of a whole hard drive, all
partitions..byte by byte beginning to end. Be interesting to know if
that is the case. Could be, but I doubt it. And I doubt you thought
about that when you said "full system backup". I suppose there is a
"system backup", which you wouldn't really distinguish from a "full
system backup". The distinction is really between imaging/cloning of
a partition, and of file backups.

I notice that in your big argument with Mr Smith, you didn't at any
point state specifically why a file backup wouldn't work. You could
have done that rather than gloat. Of course, file backup is not
recommended practice for backing up an OS.
 
Worse than an idiot, you're a fool.

Wow, you're not only an idiot, but you're a pompous bottom feeding idiot
at that. Got the runs from the mouth do you? Your breath smells like a
fart.
 
Well Gary S. Terhune, this idot has just copied across aome files I
could not
access in windowsXP, so....I am pretty sure I will be able to copy
across *every* windowsXP file. (I will do that later) Whats more this
fool thinks he will
be able to copy them all back as well.

I didn't use the thing in the link I posted earlier either, it was
much easier than that :O)

So that will do for me as a backup.

Yours, The Foolish Idiot.
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To copy files in use etc., you need a program that will use Shadow Copy
mode, and of course that service must be running. Simple as that.
 
The term "full system backup" is used lots, but you're right, I was only
concerned with the
%systemdrive% partition. And it was made clear, very early on, that the
whole reason he started this thread is that he was trying to COPY files to
another location in order to "clone (sic)" his system partition. It's when
he insisted that he could do it in Win98 so he should be able to do it in
XP, and refused to believe that it wouldn't work when told so, that he
earned the title "Idiot".

I have no patience for idiots. That simple. I'd prefer he COPY his files to
another partition, wipe the existing one, and then try restoring the system.
Learn the hard way. Or maybe never be able to get back online ever again.
That would be good for the world as a whole. Such WILLFULL idiocy deserves
nothing less than a total yanking of computer privileges.

The point of this thread isn't how to successfully back up XP, it's about a
stubborn idiot who obviously knows nothing about Windows XP and yet refuses
to believe those who know what they are talking about, which group obviously
includes you. Who whines about how he refuses to pay twenty pounds for a
solution that will actually work and get him back his system when it falls
on its face. Who insists (STILL!!) that there's no difference between Win9x
and WinXP. To me, that's just more idiocy. If the data/system is worth
backing up, if having it disappear on him would constitute a disaster, then
quibbling over a few pounds is just another form of idiocy.

No, when a poster starts out by insisting he already knows all the answers,
he deserves nothing but derision. He certainly does NOT deserve any real
assistance.
 
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