Can i access newsgroups via Outlook 2003?

[Guest]

hi

i have outlook 2003 and want to access newsgroups through
outlook.http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm#2003 -
this link only show how to do it through OE, but that is not want i want.

thanks, this will help a lot

 

[Mac]

Outlook 2003 uses (AFAIK) the OE newsreader anyway...

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

hi

i have outlook 2003 and want to access newsgroups through

outlook.http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm#2003 -

this link only show how to do it through OE, but that is not want i want.

thanks, this will help a lot

When you click Help in Outlook 2003 and type "newsgroup"
then you will see (amongst other things) this item:
=====================
If you have not previously set up a newsreader, Microsoft
Outlook automatically sets up the Outlook Express Newsreader.
=====================
I think this states the situation quite clearly.

 

[expres account]

thanks guys

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message news:[email protected]...

When you click Help in Outlook 2003 and type "newsgroup"
then you will see (amongst other things) this item:
=====================
If you have not previously set up a newsreader, Microsoft
Outlook automatically sets up the Outlook Express Newsreader.
=====================
I think this states the situation quite clearly.

 

[Michael Stevens]

hi

i have outlook 2003 and want to access newsgroups through
outlook.http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm#2003
- this link only show how to do it through OE, but that is not want i
want.

thanks, this will help a lot

Craig,
Sorry, the link to Outlook 2003 was not working. The info was at the bottom
of the page, but is not prominently labeled. The link is fixed now.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm#2003

--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

 

[Donald McDaniel]

Craig,
Sorry, the link to Outlook 2003 was not working. The info was at the bottom
of the page, but is not prominently labeled. The link is fixed now.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm#2003

Microsoft Outlook itself does not access newsgroups, unless you are
using an Exchange Server.

Instead, it calls the default Windows NNTP client (whatever that is)
as a child process. Usually, it calls Outlook Express, if no other
NNTP client is set up and set as the default newsreader in Internet
Options.

Personally, I advise people to use Forte's Agent 3.x, if they are
serious about Usenet, since it is pretty much the best NNTP client for
Windows, although Outlook Express, while much-maligned as a newsreader
by many people, is actually a fairly good one. And it has the
advantage of being free, and accessible from the first boot of
Windows.

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Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
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[Michael Stevens]

Microsoft Outlook itself does not access newsgroups, unless you are
using an Exchange Server.

Instead, it calls the default Windows NNTP client (whatever that is)
as a child process. Usually, it calls Outlook Express, if no other
NNTP client is set up and set as the default newsreader in Internet
Options.

Personally, I advise people to use Forte's Agent 3.x, if they are
serious about Usenet, since it is pretty much the best NNTP client for
Windows, although Outlook Express, while much-maligned as a newsreader
by many people, is actually a fairly good one. And it has the
advantage of being free, and accessible from the first boot of
Windows.

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Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
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Donald,
Personally, I recommend Agent for anything other than peer support
newsgroups and I list it as an option on my web page. For peer support
newsgroups, I have not found a better newsreader than OE. No other
newsreader that I know of has the ability to apply rules that assign colors
to individual or groups of posters. I also like the way OE sorts messages.
My website explains how to intergrate OE Newsreader into the Outlook
toolbar. When OE is intergrated into the Outlook Toolbar, it becomes Outlook
Newsreader as shown in the image on my web page.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

 

[Michael Stevens]

Donald,
Personally, I recommend Agent for anything other than peer support
newsgroups and I list it as an option on my web page. For peer support
newsgroups, I have not found a better newsreader than OE. No other
newsreader that I know of has the ability to apply rules that assign
colors to individual or groups of posters. I also like the way OE
sorts messages. My website explains how to intergrate OE Newsreader
into the Outlook toolbar. When OE is intergrated into the Outlook
Toolbar, it becomes Outlook Newsreader as shown in the image on my
web page. http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

BTW, Outlook 2003 only renames and integrates OE Newsreader into toolbar. It
does not change any functionality other than the noted toolbar integration.

--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

 

[Donald McDaniel]

Donald,
Personally, I recommend Agent for anything other than peer support
newsgroups and I list it as an option on my web page. For peer support
newsgroups, I have not found a better newsreader than OE. No other
newsreader that I know of has the ability to apply rules that assign colors
to individual or groups of posters. I also like the way OE sorts messages.
My website explains how to intergrate OE Newsreader into the Outlook
toolbar. When OE is intergrated into the Outlook Toolbar, it becomes Outlook
Newsreader as shown in the image on my web page.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

For some reason or another, I thought Agent had the ability to score
individual articles, and give them different colors, but actually,
that is MicroPlanet Gravity (also a great NNTP client, except for its
handling of multiple servers, which is rather out-dated).

Agent IS missing the ability to score individual articles and give
them different colors, although it will allow one to set the global
color of Watched threads (both foreground and background colors). But,
its inability to recolor individual articles or threads is probably
its major fault. Forte is fairly responsive to its users, and
perhaps, they will one day add this ability into its flagship product.

As far as sorting of messages, Agent has a pretty rich sorting set,
even allowing watched threads with unwatched articles to float to the
top of the listing, much like OE's ability to float ALL watched
articles to the top of the list. However, I do prefer OE's ability to
sort all watched threads (including the read articles in those
threads) to the top of the list in strict chronological order, while
keeping the rest of the listing sorted in strict chronological order
also. Agent's method tends to be not strictly chronological, and will
only float watched threads containing only unread articles to the top
of the listing).

By the way, Michael, how does one set colors of individual threads or
articles in OE 6.x? It does have a fairly rich rule set, I know, but
I've never seen those particular criteria and actions. Perhaps I've
overlooked them in the Rules set.

I know it is possible to set the global text color of Watched threads
in OE, but not their background color (unless, of course, I've
overlooked that facility also.)

It's too bad that all development on Outlook Express (other than
security updates) has ceased (and even worse that usability updates to
OE were so far apart). Unless Windows Mail in Vista is its successor,
of course. Hopefully, Microsoft will release such updates to Windows
Mail a little more often than they did with OE (how many years did it
take to get a "Delete" key in OE? Who knows).

It's also too bad that it's not possible to do Bottom-Posting by
default in OE (although it is possible with the addition of
OE-QuoteFix). However, I personally prefer Inline posting over either
Bottom Posting or Top Posting.

I also like OE's not-breaking of URLs longer than the default posting
margins (though it sometimes does. This is probably not Microsoft's
fault, however. It may be just a weakness of the ever-changing (and
non-uniform) URL format). I've noticed that broken URLs are pretty
much endemic to Mac email/NNTP clients also.

But that's a horse of a different color.

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Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
========================================================

 

[Michael Stevens]

For some reason or another, I thought Agent had the ability to score
individual articles, and give them different colors, but actually,
that is MicroPlanet Gravity (also a great NNTP client, except for its
handling of multiple servers, which is rather out-dated).

MicroPlanet Gravity is better, but it does not come close to OE in assigning
colors to individual or group of users.

Agent IS missing the ability to score individual articles and give
them different colors, although it will allow one to set the global
color of Watched threads (both foreground and background colors). But,
its inability to recolor individual articles or threads is probably
its major fault. Forte is fairly responsive to its users, and
perhaps, they will one day add this ability into its flagship product.

As far as sorting of messages, Agent has a pretty rich sorting set,
even allowing watched threads with unwatched articles to float to the
top of the listing, much like OE's ability to float ALL watched
articles to the top of the list. However, I do prefer OE's ability to
sort all watched threads (including the read articles in those
threads) to the top of the list in strict chronological order, while
keeping the rest of the listing sorted in strict chronological order
also. Agent's method tends to be not strictly chronological, and will
only float watched threads containing only unread articles to the top
of the listing).

By the way, Michael, how does one set colors of individual threads or
articles in OE 6.x? It does have a fairly rich rule set, I know, but
I've never seen those particular criteria and actions. Perhaps I've
overlooked them in the Rules set.

I don't think this is possible with any version of OE and could possibly be
why OE sucks so badly when using OE for anything other than peer support
newsgroups.
OE in my opinion is only the best for peer support newsgroups and more or
less useless for downloading binaries (i.e. music, images, video, etc.) on
the usenet.

--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm