Anti-Anti-Virus Software

[Jonathan Wolfson]

Me and my friend were trying to set up our laptop so that it could play
some mpeg file I made to memorialize someone. It had Windows Media
Player, so all was fine, and there were some issues regarding setting
it up to play in a digital projector. But every 20 seconds, an urgent
reminder kept appearing about how I need to update my Norton Antivirus
file. Every 20 seconds! Because of that, there was a chance that would
appear every 20 seconds during the presentation, so me and my friend
uninstalled the Norton Antivirus software. After all, my friend did not
purchase this or even download it for free- it came with the Compaq.
The only way to eliminate this problem is to get rid of the software.
Mo did not care, after all, he has never had a virus in his life. The
extent of his computer issues relate to spyware, spam, pop-ups, and an
undefragmented hard drive. Who the hell has ever had a virus anyway?
Anyone?

These evil companies like Norton and McAfee are far, far worse as
infectant programs and as time-wasting pieces of memory than I can
imagine any virus to be. Shame on them! They are far worse than any
virus that the media dreams up and invents.

Don't you people understand? The whole virus phenomenon is a sham, is a
way to get you to spend money on anti-virus software, which runs every
18 seconds reminding you to download new anti-virus software because
even though you did not get a virus the last 47,820 times, you might
get one now.

-Jonathan Wolfson

 

[Bert Kinney]

You may think it's a sham now, but just wait until the system gets hit
by a virus. It's not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. In this
day an age an antivirus program is a must. I do agree with you that
NAV and McAfee are junk. I would never recommend either. You will find
my suggestions here:
Virus and Spyware removal and prevention
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/spyware.html

 

[kurttrail]

Me and my friend were trying to set up our laptop so that it could
play some mpeg file I made to memorialize someone. It had Windows
Media Player, so all was fine, and there were some issues regarding
setting it up to play in a digital projector. But every 20 seconds,
an urgent reminder kept appearing about how I need to update my
Norton Antivirus file. Every 20 seconds! Because of that, there was a
chance that would appear every 20 seconds during the presentation, so
me and my friend uninstalled the Norton Antivirus software. After
all, my friend did not purchase this or even download it for free- it
came with the Compaq. The only way to eliminate this problem is to
get rid of the software. Mo did not care, after all, he has never had
a virus in his life. The extent of his computer issues relate to
spyware, spam, pop-ups, and an undefragmented hard drive. Who the
hell has ever had a virus anyway? Anyone?

These evil companies like Norton and McAfee are far, far worse as
infectant programs and as time-wasting pieces of memory than I can
imagine any virus to be. Shame on them! They are far worse than any
virus that the media dreams up and invents.

Don't you people understand? The whole virus phenomenon is a sham, is
a way to get you to spend money on anti-virus software, which runs
every 18 seconds reminding you to download new anti-virus software
because even though you did not get a virus the last 47,820 times,
you might get one now.

Insert shotgun barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger, and your
problems should disappear.

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[Guest]

You get shots when you are a child to prevent a catastrophic (pardon my
spelling) sickness that could kill you. The chances of you getting that
virus in this day and age may be slim, however I would rather have a few
shots than die, I'm sure most people would agree.

A computer virus works the same way. If you leave your computer completely
open to attack, you are just waiting for a disaster. You don't think that a
virus can harm your system? Maybe it's easy for you, if you don't mind
reformating your hard drive or loosing all of your data, but consider an
accountant of a large coorporation...a virus comes in and completely wipes
all the financial records which could cost millions to replace. Leaving
important systems volunerable is not a wise choice.

Additionally, a virus could deny access to important services, remove users
from being able to logon, run your hardware to it's maximum, (often times
shortening the life of your system). There are too many chances that I for
one am not willing to take.

So antivirus software isn't pleasant...but in my opion much better than the
alternative. Most AV programs are setup to be flexible...you can select
options to update the virus definitions when it is convienient for you.

Jason Ryon

 

[Kerry Brown]

Me and my friend were trying to set up our laptop so that it could play
some mpeg file I made to memorialize someone. It had Windows Media
Player, so all was fine, and there were some issues regarding setting
it up to play in a digital projector. But every 20 seconds, an urgent
reminder kept appearing about how I need to update my Norton Antivirus
file. Every 20 seconds! Because of that, there was a chance that would
appear every 20 seconds during the presentation, so me and my friend
uninstalled the Norton Antivirus software. After all, my friend did not
purchase this or even download it for free- it came with the Compaq.
The only way to eliminate this problem is to get rid of the software.
Mo did not care, after all, he has never had a virus in his life. The
extent of his computer issues relate to spyware, spam, pop-ups, and an
undefragmented hard drive. Who the hell has ever had a virus anyway?
Anyone?

These evil companies like Norton and McAfee are far, far worse as
infectant programs and as time-wasting pieces of memory than I can
imagine any virus to be. Shame on them! They are far worse than any
virus that the media dreams up and invents.

Don't you people understand? The whole virus phenomenon is a sham, is a
way to get you to spend money on anti-virus software, which runs every
18 seconds reminding you to download new anti-virus software because
even though you did not get a virus the last 47,820 times, you might
get one now.

-Jonathan Wolfson

Nice troll, should hook a few.

Kerry

 

[Jonathan Wolfson]

How come that has never happened to me? I do not run AV software. Also,
I am not a corporation. So why do AV programs get pre-installed on user
systems? And can't computer makes make them a lot less intrusive and
much more in the background? By default they should be way in the
background, not in the forefront. Another thing is the loud noises the
software makes when demanding an update. To fix this problem for my
aunt who was complaining, I simply uninstalled her two antivirus
programs on her new PC. She will not be infected, I bet.

 

[Jone Doe]

If you really feel this way, please go off line now and stay off because
soon you will be spreading viruses all over the web and being used to spam
us. You don't want protection? Fine, that's your right, but as I said, get
the hell off line, NOW!

 

[Matt Silberstein]

How come that has never happened to me? I do not run AV software. Also,
I am not a corporation. So why do AV programs get pre-installed on user
systems? And can't computer makes make them a lot less intrusive and
much more in the background? By default they should be way in the
background, not in the forefront. Another thing is the loud noises the
software makes when demanding an update. To fix this problem for my
aunt who was complaining, I simply uninstalled her two antivirus
programs on her new PC. She will not be infected, I bet.

Troll? Yep.



--
Matt Silberstein

All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.

 

[Bob I]

As long as her computer no connection with the rest of the world she
will be just fine.

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi Jason,

The only statement I would challenge, is "The chances of you getting
that virus in this day and age may be slim". The chance of getting a
virus/Trojan increases each day. The change can also depend on one's
surfing habits. However, this will not prevent getting virus/Trojan
via email. This is why antivirus software is a must, IMO.

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Who the
hell has ever had a virus anyway? Anyone?

Thousands and thousands of people.

These evil companies like Norton and McAfee are far, far worse
as
infectant programs and as time-wasting pieces of memory than I
can
imagine any virus to be. Shame on them! They are far worse than
any
virus that the media dreams up and invents.

Don't you people understand? The whole virus phenomenon is a
sham, is
a way to get you to spend money on anti-virus software, which
runs
every 18 seconds reminding you to download new anti-virus
software
because even though you did not get a virus the last 47,820
times,
you might get one now.

Nonsense. I've never been infected with a virus, but my antivirus
software has stopped viruses here more than once. I personally
know many people who have been infected.

If you want to be foolhardy enough to run without anti-virus
software, that's your choice. But don't advice others to follow
your foolish ways.

 

[Ed Nuxters]

How come that has never happened to me? I do not run AV software. Also,
I am not a corporation. So why do AV programs get pre-installed on user
systems? And can't computer makes make them a lot less intrusive and
much more in the background? By default they should be way in the
background, not in the forefront. Another thing is the loud noises the
software makes when demanding an update. To fix this problem for my
aunt who was complaining, I simply uninstalled her two antivirus
programs on her new PC. She will not be infected, I bet.

Viruses are tricky...
I suggest AVG Anti Virus - free (Home) edition.

 

[kurttrail]

You get shots when you are a child to prevent a catastrophic (pardon
my spelling) sickness that could kill you. The chances of you
getting that virus in this day and age may be slim, however I would
rather have a few shots than die, I'm sure most people would agree.

A computer virus works the same way. If you leave your computer
completely open to attack, you are just waiting for a disaster. You
don't think that a virus can harm your system? Maybe it's easy for
you, if you don't mind reformating your hard drive or loosing all of
your data, but consider an accountant of a large coorporation...a
virus comes in and completely wipes all the financial records which
could cost millions to replace. Leaving important systems
volunerable is not a wise choice.

Additionally, a virus could deny access to important services, remove
users from being able to logon, run your hardware to it's maximum,
(often times shortening the life of your system). There are too many
chances that I for one am not willing to take.

So antivirus software isn't pleasant...but in my opion much better
than the alternative. Most AV programs are setup to be
flexible...you can select options to update the virus definitions
when it is convienient for you.

Norton AV is not a better alternative that many viruses.

But there are some decent AV programs out there, NAV just isn't one of
them.

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[Scott]

I believe the poster has made one good point; the software should
maybe remind you at boot up that it is out of date, then leave you
alone while you are using your computer. Alternatively, it could give
you the option to turn off the warnings altogether. Same can be said
for the windows update, once it lets you know the updates are ready to
install, then leave it at that instead of a reminder every few
minutes.
It's like the old reminder from 98. "Because your system was not shut
down correctly, scandisk will perform a check of your hard drive,
Always shut down using the shutdown button from the start menu" How
annoying for Gates to assume that it was never the operating system
itself that would cause you to use the hard boot option..LOL

 

[kurttrail]

I believe the poster has made one good point; the software should
maybe remind you at boot up that it is out of date, then leave you
alone while you are using your computer. Alternatively, it could give
you the option to turn off the warnings altogether. Same can be said
for the windows update, once it lets you know the updates are ready to
install, then leave it at that instead of a reminder every few
minutes.
It's like the old reminder from 98. "Because your system was not shut
down correctly, scandisk will perform a check of your hard drive,
Always shut down using the shutdown button from the start menu" How
annoying for Gates to assume that it was never the operating system
itself that would cause you to use the hard boot option..LOL

When the OP is done with the shotgun, take a turn yourself!

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[Brian Cryer]

Me and my friend were trying to set up our laptop so that it could play
some mpeg file I made to memorialize someone. It had Windows Media
Player, so all was fine, and there were some issues regarding setting
it up to play in a digital projector. But every 20 seconds, an urgent
reminder kept appearing about how I need to update my Norton Antivirus
file. Every 20 seconds! Because of that, there was a chance that would
appear every 20 seconds during the presentation, so me and my friend
uninstalled the Norton Antivirus software. After all, my friend did not
purchase this or even download it for free- it came with the Compaq.
The only way to eliminate this problem is to get rid of the software.
Mo did not care, after all, he has never had a virus in his life. The
extent of his computer issues relate to spyware, spam, pop-ups, and an
undefragmented hard drive. Who the hell has ever had a virus anyway?
Anyone?

These evil companies like Norton and McAfee are far, far worse as
infectant programs and as time-wasting pieces of memory than I can
imagine any virus to be. Shame on them! They are far worse than any
virus that the media dreams up and invents.

Don't you people understand? The whole virus phenomenon is a sham, is a
way to get you to spend money on anti-virus software, which runs every
18 seconds reminding you to download new anti-virus software because
even though you did not get a virus the last 47,820 times, you might
get one now.

-Jonathan Wolfson

Troll.

Norton anti-virus may have some issues, but you would be daft to connect to
the internet without anti-virus (and firewall).

 

[Scott]

When the OP is done with the shotgun, take a turn yourself!

Go piss up a rope you sanctimonious SOB.

 

[Ed Nuxters]

Go piss up a rope you sanctimonious SOB.

There's alot of love in these threads.

 

[Jonathan Wolfson]

Again, what about pc's that only one person uses? Intrusive AV software
should be installed only on PC's that are going to be shared. Companies
should sell personal PC's as well as public-used PC's as a distinct
category, and only the latter should be equipped to a massive extent
with AV software.

 

[kurttrail]

Go piss up a rope you sanctimonious SOB.

LOL! Show me how! But then again you don't seem the type to be able to
figure out how to do things.

Complaining about reminders that can be turned off! Why don't you learn
to use your software instead of complaining about things that are
totally avoidable?

Oh, by the way, my mother is a bitch, so calling be an SOB is hardly a
put down to me.

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