N
No I'm Spartacus
Hi Doodad,
That's a nice little utility - thanks for pointing that one out!
Not quite what I was after, but I can actually put that one to another
use on my PC <grin>
Hi Doodad,
That's a nice little utility - thanks for pointing that one out!
Not quite what I was after, but I can actually put that one to another
use on my PC <grin>
N
No I'm Spartacus
Hi Saxman,
Hm, Instant File Name Search eh? It looks interesting - what I could
do is set my file manager (Total Commander) to take over from Windows
Explorer as the default for opening folders, do a search in I.F.N.S
and when I get a result, double click on it to open it in TC. That's
an alternative way to do what I wanted. I think I will give it a go.
Will post back here with my results.
N
No I'm Spartacus
Yes, that would work too. Especially if, like I said in my reply to
Saxman, I set my file manager (Total Commander) to take over from
Windows Explorer when it comes to opening folders. Find it in either
Instant File Name Search (Saxman's suggestion), or AVA Find, and a
double click or enter should open it in TC. Well, I'll give both
I.N.F.S and Ava a go, and see which one I like best. I'll probably
throw in Agent Ransack as well - I've seen it recommended in this
group before, and I should be able to do the same thing.
N
No I'm Spartacus
Hm, that's interesting. If an earlier version doesn't stop working
after the 180 day period, than it must have only been a recent change.
I will try out solution suggested by a couple of other posters first
(use a search program, and just set my file manager to be the default
for opening folders) - if that doesn't work out too well, I might give
you a yell and see if I can get that earlier version off you. I agree
with what John Fitsimons said in an earlier post though about it being
a nasty way to sell shareware, so if at all possible, I will try and
avoid any version of FileRun.
M
mouser
greetings everyone,
Please excuse the length of this post; I appreciate the discussion here
and just wanted to add my perspective. I am the author of Find+Run Robot
and many of the other programs on the DonationCoder.com site.
First let me say that I understand that it's frustrating to have a program
that says it is freeware pop up a message telling you to sign up at a
forum to download a "freeware license".
DonationCoder has tried to be very open and transparent in talking with
our visitors about finding a good balance of encouraging people to visit
the site and make donations if they can, while still striving very hard to
keep the software free for everyone and without limitations.
You can find numerous threads on our forum discussing the issue and i
encourage you to read a little if you have any doubt about our intentions
or integrity. Here is a more recent one:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=1732.msg11519#msg11519
You can also read about the philosophy of our approach here:
http://www.donationcoder.com/About/start.html
The bottom line is as simple as this: we want to keep our software free
for everyone, but find a way to encourage people to donate. Our
experience is that very few people ever do unless you give them a little
bit of incentive. Requiring people who don't donate (or who aren't
honorary members by way of being freeware authors, etc) to download a new
freeware key every 6 months is one of the ways we are trying to do this.
Is it perfect? no. Should we remove that part? we're open to discussion.
We are experimenting with trying to find the right balance and we don't
claim to have all the answers. We're just trying to find a way to keep
the software free of use but still nudge people a little to get them past
the normal inertia we all have to not donate for something if we don't
have to. It's really as simple as that.
We do hope that in signing up at the forum we will encourage you to take
part in the discussions on our forum (which you might like if you like
this forum since we talk about shareware and freeware tools, and finding
the best ones, CONSTANTLY). As for spam from signing up, we never have
and never will share the email addresses of users with other people. We
do send out a newsletter every 2 weeks ago talking about new programs on
the site, the best posts, new reviews, giveaways we are having, etc. But
you need only check a box in your profile to never get an email from us
again. I Promise.
Now, also, having said that, I have made clear that the purpose of these
things is to encourage donations. And if someone emails me and says "I've
been using your programs for a month, i love em, but i'm not going to
donate for whatever reason" then we will give them a full non-expiring
license that works on all of our programs. That's because the intent is
not to punish those who won't donate.
So if you are against signing up at our forum or donating, you can email
me for a non expiring license that works on all of our software. Just
please do us the favor of checking out our site first and seeing if it's
an effort you want to support with a donation before jumping to a
conclusion.
--
Lastly, and more to your point
There is a very long list of alternatives to Find+Run robot in the help
file of the program, both freeware and shareware (all of our software has
a list of alternative programs in the help file). In fact I know of no
other list remotely as complete as that list. Like all of our programs,
you can read the help file online if you wish, go to the bottom to read
the Related Programs:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/findrun/help/index.html
Let's see anything else to say while i'm here.. Find+Run Robot version 2
is due out in the next month or so with tons of new features and we love
hearing feature requests, so if you have any please post in the F+R forum
(yes signup is required to post hehe):
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?board=12.0
i'll keep an eye here too and would be happy to respond to any questions,
complaints, etc.
-mouser
Please excuse the length of this post; I appreciate the discussion here
and just wanted to add my perspective. I am the author of Find+Run Robot
and many of the other programs on the DonationCoder.com site.
First let me say that I understand that it's frustrating to have a program
that says it is freeware pop up a message telling you to sign up at a
forum to download a "freeware license".
DonationCoder has tried to be very open and transparent in talking with
our visitors about finding a good balance of encouraging people to visit
the site and make donations if they can, while still striving very hard to
keep the software free for everyone and without limitations.
You can find numerous threads on our forum discussing the issue and i
encourage you to read a little if you have any doubt about our intentions
or integrity. Here is a more recent one:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=1732.msg11519#msg11519
You can also read about the philosophy of our approach here:
http://www.donationcoder.com/About/start.html
The bottom line is as simple as this: we want to keep our software free
for everyone, but find a way to encourage people to donate. Our
experience is that very few people ever do unless you give them a little
bit of incentive. Requiring people who don't donate (or who aren't
honorary members by way of being freeware authors, etc) to download a new
freeware key every 6 months is one of the ways we are trying to do this.
Is it perfect? no. Should we remove that part? we're open to discussion.
We are experimenting with trying to find the right balance and we don't
claim to have all the answers. We're just trying to find a way to keep
the software free of use but still nudge people a little to get them past
the normal inertia we all have to not donate for something if we don't
have to. It's really as simple as that.
We do hope that in signing up at the forum we will encourage you to take
part in the discussions on our forum (which you might like if you like
this forum since we talk about shareware and freeware tools, and finding
the best ones, CONSTANTLY
). As for spam from signing up, we never haveand never will share the email addresses of users with other people. We
do send out a newsletter every 2 weeks ago talking about new programs on
the site, the best posts, new reviews, giveaways we are having, etc. But
you need only check a box in your profile to never get an email from us
again. I Promise.
Now, also, having said that, I have made clear that the purpose of these
things is to encourage donations. And if someone emails me and says "I've
been using your programs for a month, i love em, but i'm not going to
donate for whatever reason" then we will give them a full non-expiring
license that works on all of our programs. That's because the intent is
not to punish those who won't donate.
So if you are against signing up at our forum or donating, you can email
me for a non expiring license that works on all of our software. Just
please do us the favor of checking out our site first and seeing if it's
an effort you want to support with a donation before jumping to a
conclusion.
--
Lastly, and more to your point
There is a very long list of alternatives to Find+Run robot in the help
file of the program, both freeware and shareware (all of our software has
a list of alternative programs in the help file). In fact I know of no
other list remotely as complete as that list. Like all of our programs,
you can read the help file online if you wish, go to the bottom to read
the Related Programs:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/findrun/help/index.html
Let's see anything else to say while i'm here.. Find+Run Robot version 2
is due out in the next month or so with tons of new features and we love
hearing feature requests, so if you have any please post in the F+R forum
(yes signup is required to post hehe):
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?board=12.0
i'll keep an eye here too and would be happy to respond to any questions,
complaints, etc.
-mouser
M
mouser
Just to make it clear, it is *not* the case that after 6 months the program
stops working if you don't make a donation.
The way it works is after 6 months you have to visit the website and grab
a new license key for the next 6 months. There is no limit to how often
you can do this.
Making a donation of any amount gets you a non-expiring license key for
all of our programs.
stops working if you don't make a donation.
The way it works is after 6 months you have to visit the website and grab
a new license key for the next 6 months. There is no limit to how often
you can do this.
Making a donation of any amount gets you a non-expiring license key for
all of our programs.
S
Saxman
Who can be bothered with a n o t h e r password?
I liked the program, but decided to undelete owing to keys/passords/pop-ups
and it still left traces on my computer.
I decided to give it another go, but ended up doing the same.
Far better to make installation easier and ask for a donation later, or
just make a charge for it?
A
Azzman
I agree, it didn't uninstall very efficiënt (understatement).
And it's a lot of hassle with the exparation of the key.
As for the donation part:
Someone is more likely to get LESS donations by nagging people to do so.
I wouldn't have donated to the author of Irfanview if he had the same
policy as the people from FindRun Robot.
You want cash ? Go payware.
You want donations ? Make yourself appreciated.
M
mouser
i respect your view that we should either make our software shareware or
remove all of this other stuff. i posted a longer response to these
issues in other post on this forum.
we do not want to make our software shareware - we want it to remain free
for those who can't afford it. as for removing some of the license key /
renewal things, that's something we are keeping open the possibility of,
we're going to experiment and listen to user feedback and experiment until
we find a good balance. most people seem quite fond of the site and our
approach when they give it a chance. it's hard to please everyone. as
for trouble uninstalling, we have a very active technical support forum
where questions are usually answered in terms of minutes and hours instead
of days. we also have an irc chat channel open 24hours a day. our
programs dont install any spyware or adware, they come with uninstallers
(i don't know why you would be having any issues uninstalling), and can be
used without running the installer at all. very few use any registry keys
at all (we generally try to avoid the use of the registry).
remove all of this other stuff. i posted a longer response to these
issues in other post on this forum.
we do not want to make our software shareware - we want it to remain free
for those who can't afford it. as for removing some of the license key /
renewal things, that's something we are keeping open the possibility of,
we're going to experiment and listen to user feedback and experiment until
we find a good balance. most people seem quite fond of the site and our
approach when they give it a chance. it's hard to please everyone. as
for trouble uninstalling, we have a very active technical support forum
where questions are usually answered in terms of minutes and hours instead
of days. we also have an irc chat channel open 24hours a day. our
programs dont install any spyware or adware, they come with uninstallers
(i don't know why you would be having any issues uninstalling), and can be
used without running the installer at all. very few use any registry keys
at all (we generally try to avoid the use of the registry).
M
mouser
here is a page of quotes from people about our site and our software. most
are positive but we've also added the negative ones we get (maybe i'll add
one from this thread if you like). There are some funny ones too.
http://www.donationcoder.com/About/quotes.html
are positive but we've also added the negative ones we get (maybe i'll add
one from this thread if you like). There are some funny ones too.
http://www.donationcoder.com/About/quotes.html
C
Craig
mouser said:
Mouser;
Interesting operation...I'd never heard of your site but, your
well-articulated posting is a pretty convincing reason to investigate
further.
thanks for the post,
Craig
S
Saxman
This is a really good program that you have and one of the best utilities
that I have seen in recent times. One can virtually get rid of all the
icons on one's desktop, but when I see pop-up windows and experience
difficulties removing the software, I think SPYWARE.
S
Susan Bugher
mouser said:
I think you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. Donations are
supposedly given freely - IMO arm twisting in the form of time
limitations, registration requirements etc. violates the spirit of that.
<q>
We have tried hard to figure out a way to make a small amount of money
from our software, without having to resort to the traditional approach
of restricted and time-limited shareware. We are not doing this to get
rich, we are doing it because we think it's a cool idea and we hope it
will eventually manage to at least pay for itself.
</q>
Since you want to be paid IMO the straightforward approach is to ask for
payment if people can afford to pay. IOW say something like this:
This program is Shareware. The registration fee is $XX. If you use the
program and like it please pay for it. If you cannot afford the fee you
are allowed to use XYZ as Freeware.
Susan
--
Posted to alt.comp.freeware
Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online):
http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?q=+group:alt.comp.freeware
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained)
M
mouser
i hear ya, one has to be careful these days. i'll just repeat that not
a single donationcoder.com app has ever had spyware or adware of any
kind, and we would never include such things. the pop-up nag comes up
only until you enter the freeware license key and after that you
shouldn't see a single nag or popup until the 6 months when the key
must be renewed. a non-expiring key of course never expires nor pops
up.
as for trouble uninstalling - the only trouble you should ever have
uninstalling one of our system-tray based programs is if you try to
install it while it is still running in the system tray; the
uninstaller reminds you to do this but people occassionally forget in
which case the file cant be removed since its still running. We should
probably try to write code for the installer (we use inno) to shutdown
the app if its still running, but other than that all of our programs
should uninstall cleanly without fuss; we don't make changes to systems
files nor install any dlls, etc.
a single donationcoder.com app has ever had spyware or adware of any
kind, and we would never include such things. the pop-up nag comes up
only until you enter the freeware license key and after that you
shouldn't see a single nag or popup until the 6 months when the key
must be renewed. a non-expiring key of course never expires nor pops
up.
as for trouble uninstalling - the only trouble you should ever have
uninstalling one of our system-tray based programs is if you try to
install it while it is still running in the system tray; the
uninstaller reminds you to do this but people occassionally forget in
which case the file cant be removed since its still running. We should
probably try to write code for the installer (we use inno) to shutdown
the app if its still running, but other than that all of our programs
should uninstall cleanly without fuss; we don't make changes to systems
files nor install any dlls, etc.
M
mouser
Hope you'll excuse me for rambling - you can probably tell, the issue
of "donationware" is one we talk about on our site a lot. i don't hope
to convince any of you to my viewpoint, i just want to explain where we
are coming from and what we're trying to do, and why. good people can
disagree about the choices we've made but i just want you guys/gals to
understand our position.
In the past all of our programs were just as you say, pure freeware
without any attempt to coninvce people to donate, and no need for users
to do anything, just download and use.
Some of them were very popular. Everyone was happy. And no one
donated.
Well, virtually no one. Some people did donate. It takes a special
person to make a donation without any incentive, just to support the
work. But there are very very few of these people. the donations
wouldn't even cover basic web hosting, let alone the expenses of web
hosting on a dedicated server like we are on now in order to support
the 4+gb a day bandwidth and hundreds of thousands of hits per day on
our site and forum.
We have been trying to advocate for a donation-based approach to
software (and all digital media), where people pay what they can afford
and are happy with, and they decide the amount.
But at the current time most people won't participate in such an
arrangement. They just do not donate without some kind of incentive to
get them up off the couch.
So in the end we faced some hard questions:
We wondered,
Is there a way to make a tiny bit of money (not enough money to live
off of, but maybe something approaching minimum wage?) on the software
without going to a full shareware commercial model?
Is there a way to promote a donation-based approach that could actually
convince people to donate if they could afford it, and let them decide
how much it's worth to them?
Can it be done in a way that would still facilitate the nice community
spirit of freeware?
That was the impetus for creating the site, to try to build a community
of users and coders who are willing to agree to a kind of compact,
where users are willing to donate what they think the software is
worth, and coders are willing to put in the time and effort to interact
with users to build commercial quality software. With the
understanding that no one is going to get rich, but maybe we can
generate enough rewards to breathe a little life into the donationware
model of funding.
ps1.
a long thread in our forum about donationware:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=825.0
and another long one discussing the appropriateness of terms
donationware, freeeware, nagware, etc. and the idea of using "freeware
licenses": http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=96.0
ps2.
Try this experiment before you come down on us so hard for trying to
encourage donations, pick some amazing freeware on the web that just
has a little donate button or message on the site. Email the author
and ask them if they've gotten many donations. You'd probably be
depressed at the answer. I really do believe that donationware can be
the future of software but we all need to be more willing to make
donations to worthy products for that to work. Right now my personal
believe is that we have these two completely opposite models, one is
this pure capitalistic commercial software model which says charge as
much as you can get away with to maximize profits and who cares who
can't afford it. And on the other end you have pure unadulterated open
source / freeware, which can only be written by people who make their
living through other means or are independently wealthy. This often
results in freeware that is unsuported, gets discontinued, or is never
fully stable. Some open source products land big funding deals from
companies, which is nice, but for independent developers this is a real
long shot.
ps3.
Btw i haven't mentioned that there are lots of programs on our site
that don't have any license key, including some open source programs.
ps4.
for those people who say that we should either make our software pure
shareware, or else stop trying to convince people to donate, or say "if
you can't afford it then it's free",
think of it this way, here is our OFFICIAL policy, you tell me if this
really seems unreasonable.
1. you can make a one time donation for as little as 50 cents to our
site and you get every program on the site (about 15-20 big programs,
and maybe 40 or 50 smaller ones) , plus lifetime updates, if that's
what you feel its worth. you need to check a box in your forum profile
to never get another email from us again. this 50 cent donation also
gets you full access on our site where we try to get discounts on
shareware and frequently have drawings for free software (we've given
away about 100 different programs in the 8 months we've been in
existence). We also have regular comprehensive reviews of software and
other stuff.
2. you can just do the default thing, sign up at our forum, and then
download license keys for any of the programs on our site that require
them; again check one box if you never want to receive our
twice-monthly newsletters. if you never want to donate but keep using
our programs, youd have to come back every 6 months or so for a new
license key. we update our programs quite frequently so you might be
visiting the site more often if you are using the programs regularly.
3. alternatively, if you know you object to donating and don't want to
register on our forum, you can email me, and i will go generate you a
non-expiring license key for all of our programs. cost to you: 0. or
if you cannot or won't donate but do want to have full site access you
will be made a member of the site after signing up.
Anyone who has read these posts and taken the time to think about these
issues and still does not want to make a donation to our site is very
welcome to a no-strings-attached free lifetime membership on our site
with a non-expiring license key that will work with all of our programs
including find+run robot. just sign up at our forum and send me your
forum login name in an email (mouser@_REMOVTHIS_donationcoder.com) and
i'll upgrade your account to full member which will let you access
everything. OR if you object to signing up at the forum tell me so in
an email and ill make the non-expiring license key for you myself
(though you wont have access to the members-only sections of our
website).
of "donationware" is one we talk about on our site a lot. i don't hope
to convince any of you to my viewpoint, i just want to explain where we
are coming from and what we're trying to do, and why. good people can
disagree about the choices we've made but i just want you guys/gals to
understand our position.
In the past all of our programs were just as you say, pure freeware
without any attempt to coninvce people to donate, and no need for users
to do anything, just download and use.
Some of them were very popular. Everyone was happy. And no one
donated.
Well, virtually no one. Some people did donate. It takes a special
person to make a donation without any incentive, just to support the
work. But there are very very few of these people. the donations
wouldn't even cover basic web hosting, let alone the expenses of web
hosting on a dedicated server like we are on now in order to support
the 4+gb a day bandwidth and hundreds of thousands of hits per day on
our site and forum.
We have been trying to advocate for a donation-based approach to
software (and all digital media), where people pay what they can afford
and are happy with, and they decide the amount.
But at the current time most people won't participate in such an
arrangement. They just do not donate without some kind of incentive to
get them up off the couch.
So in the end we faced some hard questions:
We wondered,
Is there a way to make a tiny bit of money (not enough money to live
off of, but maybe something approaching minimum wage?) on the software
without going to a full shareware commercial model?
Is there a way to promote a donation-based approach that could actually
convince people to donate if they could afford it, and let them decide
how much it's worth to them?
Can it be done in a way that would still facilitate the nice community
spirit of freeware?
That was the impetus for creating the site, to try to build a community
of users and coders who are willing to agree to a kind of compact,
where users are willing to donate what they think the software is
worth, and coders are willing to put in the time and effort to interact
with users to build commercial quality software. With the
understanding that no one is going to get rich, but maybe we can
generate enough rewards to breathe a little life into the donationware
model of funding.
ps1.
a long thread in our forum about donationware:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=825.0
and another long one discussing the appropriateness of terms
donationware, freeeware, nagware, etc. and the idea of using "freeware
licenses": http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums/bb/index.php?topic=96.0
ps2.
Try this experiment before you come down on us so hard for trying to
encourage donations, pick some amazing freeware on the web that just
has a little donate button or message on the site. Email the author
and ask them if they've gotten many donations. You'd probably be
depressed at the answer. I really do believe that donationware can be
the future of software but we all need to be more willing to make
donations to worthy products for that to work. Right now my personal
believe is that we have these two completely opposite models, one is
this pure capitalistic commercial software model which says charge as
much as you can get away with to maximize profits and who cares who
can't afford it. And on the other end you have pure unadulterated open
source / freeware, which can only be written by people who make their
living through other means or are independently wealthy. This often
results in freeware that is unsuported, gets discontinued, or is never
fully stable. Some open source products land big funding deals from
companies, which is nice, but for independent developers this is a real
long shot.
ps3.
Btw i haven't mentioned that there are lots of programs on our site
that don't have any license key, including some open source programs.
ps4.
for those people who say that we should either make our software pure
shareware, or else stop trying to convince people to donate, or say "if
you can't afford it then it's free",
think of it this way, here is our OFFICIAL policy, you tell me if this
really seems unreasonable.
1. you can make a one time donation for as little as 50 cents to our
site and you get every program on the site (about 15-20 big programs,
and maybe 40 or 50 smaller ones) , plus lifetime updates, if that's
what you feel its worth. you need to check a box in your forum profile
to never get another email from us again. this 50 cent donation also
gets you full access on our site where we try to get discounts on
shareware and frequently have drawings for free software (we've given
away about 100 different programs in the 8 months we've been in
existence). We also have regular comprehensive reviews of software and
other stuff.
2. you can just do the default thing, sign up at our forum, and then
download license keys for any of the programs on our site that require
them; again check one box if you never want to receive our
twice-monthly newsletters. if you never want to donate but keep using
our programs, youd have to come back every 6 months or so for a new
license key. we update our programs quite frequently so you might be
visiting the site more often if you are using the programs regularly.
3. alternatively, if you know you object to donating and don't want to
register on our forum, you can email me, and i will go generate you a
non-expiring license key for all of our programs. cost to you: 0. or
if you cannot or won't donate but do want to have full site access you
will be made a member of the site after signing up.
Anyone who has read these posts and taken the time to think about these
issues and still does not want to make a donation to our site is very
welcome to a no-strings-attached free lifetime membership on our site
with a non-expiring license key that will work with all of our programs
including find+run robot. just sign up at our forum and send me your
forum login name in an email (mouser@_REMOVTHIS_donationcoder.com) and
i'll upgrade your account to full member which will let you access
everything. OR if you object to signing up at the forum tell me so in
an email and ill make the non-expiring license key for you myself
(though you wont have access to the members-only sections of our
website).
S
Saxman
I didn't say it includes spyware, but I think spyware.
There's enough friggin pop-ups anyway.......spyware threats, cookies, virus
updates, emails in the inbox, subscription reminders........and I'm not
exaggerating.
J
John Fitzsimons
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:06:25 -0500, "mouser"
You got that right.
I disagree. If you were "open and transparent" then you would tell
people BEFORE THEY DOWNLOAD anything that they will need to
"register" again and again and again and...... to use the programs as
freeware.
Duh ! Having to re-register is a very annoying "limitation".
Then why not clearly state that on your web pages ?
One should have an "opt in" system. Not an "opt out" system.
It certainly appears that way.
IF you were to put that information on your site, so that it was able
to be clearly seen, then I might consider that. As it is however you
have not done so. If you hide such info from people then one may
wonder whether you have also added a dated expiry to your
programs as well. To "encourage donations".
Bye the way, my gripe is NOT about paying for programs. I paid
for this newsreader and I have paid for other programs I use. I
just dislike sites that hide "limitations" until after someone has
"registered" and/or "downloaded".
Regards, John.
You got that right.
I disagree. If you were "open and transparent" then you would tell
people BEFORE THEY DOWNLOAD anything that they will need to
"register" again and again and again and...... to use the programs as
freeware.
Duh ! Having to re-register is a very annoying "limitation".
Then why not clearly state that on your web pages ?
One should have an "opt in" system. Not an "opt out" system.
It certainly appears that way.
IF you were to put that information on your site, so that it was able
to be clearly seen, then I might consider that. As it is however you
have not done so. If you hide such info from people then one may
wonder whether you have also added a dated expiry to your
programs as well. To "encourage donations".
Bye the way, my gripe is NOT about paying for programs. I paid
for this newsreader and I have paid for other programs I use. I
just dislike sites that hide "limitations" until after someone has
"registered" and/or "downloaded".
Regards, John.
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John Fitzsimons
So if one doesn't request a new licence key it stops working ?
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John Fitzsimons
Mouser doesn't appear to want either of those options so he should
consider "plan B". The approach that many others take. Have two
versions of a fully working program. The first being freeware and the
second with "advanced" features.
People are often happy to pay for an "advanced" program if they like
the freeware one, and the seller is totally "up front" about how they
are doing things.
Regards, John.
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Elmira
I have standalone Find&Run Robot. version 1.05 and I am sure there is no
license needed or I doubt I would have kept the program. Only had it 4
months now.
Maybe you can find an older version out there.
license needed or I doubt I would have kept the program. Only had it 4
months now.
Maybe you can find an older version out there.