Screenshot Captor: A New Definition for Freeware

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Bob Adkins

rant

I downloaded and installed a "Freeware" program, Screenshot Captor, and
immediately got a nag screen to register. The nag sent me to:

http://www.donationcoder.com/Keys/

The more I read, the more PO'd I got. If it weren't such a blatant abuse
of the term "Freeware" it would be funny, actually.

You have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a "free key", which
expires. Or you can "Donate" and stop the nags. Now we have an abuse of the
term "Donation".

I wish someone would make "Freeware" a registered trademark that couldn't be
used on time limited software, Nagware, Adware, and Crippleware so little
jerks couldn't abuse the good name of Freeware.

Everyone should e-mail him and let him know how they feel about it. His addy
is (e-mail address removed)

/rant
 
J

John Jay Smith

I wish someone would make "Freeware" a registered trademark

Read what you wrote... lol, "freeware into a trademark?" Isnt that a little
ironic? LOL!

Although I totally agree with you, and have run into that exact application
also,

the term "freeware" only means you dont have to pay money....
see this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware

There is clearly a need for a new term to distinguish "true" freeware from
the others...
like adware, crippleware, nagware... etc....

Today 15 MAY of 2006, I invented a new term called "sinlessware" to discribe
nonag, no ad, no crippled apps...applications free from all greed and
corruption,
created for the benefit of humanity, and always free.

I dont wish to trademark it, it is free and sinless too.

May googlegroups be my witness :)



-Ken www.computerboom.com
 
H

Howard Schwartz

ou have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a "free key", which
expires. Or you can "Donate" and stop the nags. Now we have an abuse
of the term "Donation".
Click to expand...

It could be worse. At least they did not try to induce you to fill out a
200 question survey, which they then sell to other companies - like they
do when the pop up screen says, ``Contradulations - you have won a free
laptop (or whatever)''.
 
S

Susan Bugher

Bob said:
rant

I downloaded and installed a "Freeware" program, Screenshot Captor, and
immediately got a nag screen to register. The nag sent me to:

http://www.donationcoder.com/Keys/

The more I read, the more PO'd I got. If it weren't such a blatant abuse
of the term "Freeware" it would be funny, actually.
Click to expand...

I agree that calling it "Freeware" is inappropriate. . .
You have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a "free key", which
expires. Or you can "Donate" and stop the nags. Now we have an abuse of the
term "Donation".
Click to expand...

Disagree. You have to return to the site twice (at six month intervals)
to get the Nag permanently removed for *free* or you can remove it
immediately by making a donation.
I wish someone would make "Freeware" a registered trademark that couldn't be
used on time limited software, Nagware, Adware, and Crippleware so little
jerks couldn't abuse the good name of Freeware.

Everyone should e-mail him and let him know how they feel about it. His addy
is (e-mail address removed)

/rant
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erm. . . been there, done that, right here. Search the ACF archives
for posts from Mouser.

Mouser is a man with a mission -> finding a way to make the donation
model work. There was quite a long discussion in ACF (that resulted in
some improvements in their donation method). The site does a good job of
alerting people to the need for a key - all the facts are given -
there's no deception going on.

IMO there are many, many "Freeware" sites/authors that deserve to be
reviled but this is *not* one of them. Not my cup of tea but that's a
different story. . .

Susan
--
Posted to alt.comp.freeware
Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online):
http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?q=+group:alt.comp.freeware
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained)
 
B

Bob Adkins

IMO there are many, many "Freeware" sites/authors that deserve to be
reviled but this is *not* one of them. Not my cup of tea but that's a
different story. . .
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Susan,

On further review, I agree.

When I'm foraging for Freeware, I lock in on the name "Freeware" like a
laser. When a program sounds useful, I grab it without reading, because I
have come to trust that Freeware can be used without jumping through hoops.
Whether that's my fault or Mouser's fault is certainly arguable.

One thing that is not up to debate is that Mouser is a nice fellow, and
offers good products.
 
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Petersen, Vegard Krog

the term "freeware" only means you dont have to pay money....
see this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware
Click to expand...

That's just the definition of the user(s) who wrote this particulary
entry and not any kind of official definition of the term "freeware"...


regards from

--
Vegard Krog Petersen - Norway

http://vegard2.no -
Solitaire MahJongg guide, Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire,
Freeware Logo & symbol, Halma & Chinese Checkers,
Pachisi & Ludo, Freeware Solitaire, My fishy site (fishing
games), a.c.f.g information, Fredrikshald Havfiskeklubb
18+ sites: Firefoxy, Adult Solitaire, Fishy Pictures,
Sexy Chess, Sexy Librarians, Sexy Football
---------------------------------------------------------
 
J

John Jay Smith

Ok find me better one please that is published and accepted by the majority.
 
V

Vegard Krog Petersen

the term "freeware" only means you dont have to pay money....
Ok find me better one please that is published and accepted by the
majority.
Click to expand...

Majority and majority, well well...
But these on is the most prefered by most of the alt.comp.freeware
participants:
Freeware: Legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost, monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.
Click to expand...
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/WareGlossary.php


And please don't top-post!

Kind regards from


--
Vegard Krog Petersen - Norway

http://vegard2.no -
Solitaire MahJongg guide, Sarah Michelle Gellar Solitaire,
Freeware Logo & symbol, Halma & Chinese Checkers,
Pachisi & Ludo, Freeware Solitaire, My fishy site (fishing
games), a.c.f.g information, Fredrikshald Havfiskeklubb
18+ sites: Firefoxy, Adult Solitaire, Fishy Pictures,
Sexy Chess, Sexy Librarians, Sexy Football
---------------------------------------------------------
 
B

Bob Phillips

Why shouldn't he top-post? You should not seek to impose your prejudices on
others?
 
V

Vegard Krog Petersen

Vegard Krog Petersen said:
on 15.05.2006 22:25 Bob Phillips wrote:
Why shouldn't he top-post? You should not seek to impose your prejudices on
others?
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That question could start a a long and flamed thread Bob. :)

Many people have very strong opinions on what is considered correct
etiquette.

I'll just post the link to the wikipedia discussion of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

And yes: I'm aware of the irony regarding wikipedia in view of my
earlier post in this thread :)

regards from vegard
 
E

Eugene Esterly III

Bob said:
rant

I downloaded and installed a "Freeware" program, Screenshot Captor, and
immediately got a nag screen to register. The nag sent me to:

http://www.donationcoder.com/Keys/

The more I read, the more PO'd I got. If it weren't such a blatant abuse
of the term "Freeware" it would be funny, actually.

You have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a "free key", which
expires. Or you can "Donate" and stop the nags. Now we have an abuse of the
term "Donation".

I wish someone would make "Freeware" a registered trademark that couldn't be
used on time limited software, Nagware, Adware, and Crippleware so little
jerks couldn't abuse the good name of Freeware.

Everyone should e-mail him and let him know how they feel about it. His addy
is (e-mail address removed)

/rant
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Bob,

Some freeware does require to get a license key to use the program. For
example, I use the freeware version of Avast & the program runs in
trial mode until you get a free license key. The free license key for
Avast expires once a year & when it expires, you have to get a new key.

Getting a free license key for a freeware prog doesn't bother me
because if it seems like a good program, I'll go thru the hoops of
getting a license key to use the program.
 
B

Bob Phillips

Exactly Vegard, many people have strong OPINIONS. Personally I hate bottom
posting, having to pass through stuff I have already read to get to the new
stuff. Top-posting includes the relevant material, IF anyone should want to
read it.

As long as judicious snipping is applied, top posting is fine IMO. Bottom
posting never is (again IMO).

Best Regards

Bob

PS Sorry about the capitals, I do know my netiquette, but I wanted to
emphasise those points.
 
T

thunder7

I too used "Screenshot Captor" recived a nag screen. When I questioned
the author he was rather rude . I also beta test a lot of programs I
told him where there where bugs He told me I was in error. I have
stopped using his programs!.
I however see http://shellcity.net/ is still hailing him as a "FREEWARE
guru." Shell City also needs to be told. They have a lot of excellent
freeware programs there.
In the true defination of freeware.
 
T

thunder7

I too used "Screenshot Captor" recived a nag screen. When I questioned
the author he was rather rude . I also beta test a lot of programs I
told him where there where bugs He told me I was in error. I have
stopped using his programs!.
I however see http://shellcity.net/ is still hailing him as a "FREEWARE
guru." Shell City also needs to be told. They have a lot of excellent
freeware programs there.
In the true defination of freeware.
 

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