[PL] 2004 General Discussion

[Bjorn Abelli]

FYI: The following programs either don't have a
link on the nomination pages or the link does not work.

Free PDF

The nominated program seems to be this one (as to the nomination posting
from "kalynuik1"), actually with a slightly different name, "FreePDF":

http://shbox.de/freepdf.htm

Download Pages:
http://shbox.de/fpx732.htm

There's also exists a program with the name "Free PDF", which is another
freeware with the same purpose. Just in case the nominator had them mixed
up, I include these as well.

http://www.webxd.com/zipguy/freepdf.htm

Download pages:
http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mirrors.php?id=17968
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_download/0,fid,22333,fileidx,1,00.asp

// Bjorn A

 

[Susan Bugher]

I know. I suggested changes ..."at least for the nomination phase".




Although maybe not very important, still: I do think it can matter if
a program is listed as *one of its kind* among the many nominated -
compared to if it is listed along side four or five others in the
"same" category. Anyone looking over the list of programs not (yet)
nominated *might* stop and read more carefully, think twice and maybe
even try a program, *if* it is listed/grouped as the only one (or two)
in a category, compared to if is listed as one of several other
(seconded) ones. Oh well

Hi Bjorn,

I agree with *much* of what you say - and have started the category
discussion.

The *difficulty* I see with creating a subcategory that has just one
program is that the minimum number of votes needed for PL2004 is *2* and
if there is only one program in the category. . .

Let's move further discussion of this to the category discussion thread.

Susan
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[Susan Bugher]

:

Many thanks, Bjorn and Karen,

Part of the problem was I had my eyes crossed and missed some info in
one post (blush). Got those URLs entered, searched for the others and
found some.

The remaining problem children are:

Nfilter
Octopus

Help would be appreciated.

Susan
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[kalynuik1]

I've just finished checking program names (to date) which also gave me a
link check.

FYI: The following programs either don't have a link on the nomination
pages or the link does not work.

4T Tray Minimizer http://www.4t-niagara.com/tray.html
Altavista Toolbar http://www.altavista.com/toolbar/default
http://www.ehelp.com/camstudio/product/screenrecording/
EF Commander

EF Commander Free
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?id=8796

Free PDF

http://shbox.de/freepdf.htm
(note: site may not be english but english is a install option)

FTP Genius

http://www.zipgenius.it/intweb/dl.asp
(Note: FTP Genius can be downloaded by self, or as Suite with ZipGenius)

JB Cat

http://home.wanadoo.nl/jbsoft/
(Note: seems down at the moment, but he updated program this year 2003)

Mozilla Calendar Plugin http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
MsDVR 2000 http://www.maksil.com/
On-Line TV http://onlinetv.flatserv.de/
Otaku Mascot http://otakumascot.com/index.html?/0home.html
Nfilter

http://www.nfilter.org/
(note: timing out right now)

Zip Installer

http://riedersoft.ath.cx:85/~users/nirsoft/utils/zipinst.html
(note: was working now not found, but program was udated very recently)

Could not find URL's for these
Clippy> Octopus> LastQF

Susan

Kingtut1

 

[kalynuik1]

:




The nominated program seems to be this one (as to the nomination posting
from "kalynuik1"), actually with a slightly different name, "FreePDF":

http://shbox.de/freepdf.htm

Download Pages:
http://shbox.de/fpx732.htm

There's also exists a program with the name "Free PDF", which is another
freeware with the same purpose. Just in case the nominator had them mixed
up, I include these as well.

http://www.webxd.com/zipguy/freepdf.htm

Download pages:
http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mirrors.php?id=17968
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_download/0,fid,22333,fileidx,1,00.asp

// Bjorn A

It is the shbox address as the other you mentioned was his older version
& beta project, this new one is a whole lot better and being worked on
at the moment.

http://shbox.de/freepdf.htm


Kingtut1

 

[Susan Bugher]

kalynuik1 wrote:

(lots of URLs)

Kingtut1

My bad, humble apologies, I *knew* I should check the posts first before
posting the list but I was on-line . . .

ashamed . . .

Susan
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[John Fitzsimons]

Could not find URL's for these

Clippy : http://wots.coolfreepage.com/link.php?id=SW3


Regards, John.


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[Susan Bugher]

Susan Bugher wrote:

FYI -> revised set of pages uploaded.

Susan
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[vsj]

Susan Bugher wrote:

FYI -> revised set of pages uploaded.

Susan

Another link for Clippy:
http://www.simtel.net/product.php?url_fb_product_page=58584
For some reason, I've never been able to access
www.wots.coolfreepage.com.

--

 

[omega]

The remaining problem children are:

Nfilter
Octopus

About Octopus.

Its nominator was DAN <[email protected]>.
In <[email protected]>

The nominator seems to have gone missing. I was the seconder. Must I
now absorb parental responsibility, given the nominator's desertion?
It was only an impulsive act on my part, a single hour of half-hearted
passion, in a forgotten motel.

I do not want to adopt this problem child. I don't even want to pay its
support. I would like to just hand it off to the state, to a group home
or something.

The main thing, I don't at all like the situtation of the links.

To get the program, you have to scrounge pretty hard. To end by resorting
to a third-party download site. Such as the undesirable Winsite. And the zip
link below unfortunately packages a rude setup.exe.

http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?2492
http://dl.winsite.com/files/95/ar2/win95/netutil/octopus.zip

Last known author's description page is only bones in a museum.


http://web.archive.org/web/20030210120522/http://www.redrival.com/mak/octopus/

The program development seems to be wholly abandoned, with its last update
dating early 2000. The author's current home is here:

http://www.moskalyuk.com/software/

Clicking on the Octopus link of the page above, blech, forgeddaboudit.

http://www.moskalyuk.com/octopus/index.htm forced redirect to....
http://www.alexmoskalyuk.com/octopus/ a dead non-domain.


So, I repeat my request. Although I am seconder, I would ask to be absolved
of all responsibility for this particular problem child.

 

[Susan Bugher]

Susan Bugher <[email protected]>:

About Octopus.

Its nominator was DAN <[email protected]>.
In <[email protected]>

The nominator seems to have gone missing. I was the seconder. Must I
now absorb parental responsibility, given the nominator's desertion?
It was only an impulsive act on my part, a single hour of half-hearted
passion, in a forgotten motel.

I do not want to adopt this problem child. I don't even want to pay its
support. I would like to just hand it off to the state, to a group home
or something.

So, I repeat my request. Although I am seconder, I would ask to be absolved
of all responsibility for this particular problem child.

Just ignore this problem child. It will die of neglect (no description).
Problem solved. <evil grin>

Susan
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[omega]

Just ignore this problem child. It will die of neglect (no description).
Problem solved. <evil grin>

Ah that's the plan I want to hear. I was thinking to perhaps wrap it in
a blanket and let it float down the river.

O but we better take caution. Two females conspiring this way, we might
end by inciting some Salem witch burnings. <g>

 

[Susan Bugher]

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/2004nominationsPL.php

Revised set of pages uploaded . . . 526 programs . . .

Susan
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[Susan Bugher]

Susan Bugher wrote:

Revised set of pages uploaded. Includes some category revisions.

Susan
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[Susan Bugher]

Revised set of web pages uploaded -> 528 programs

A *big* thank you to Bjorn and Rembranded for their help with the Ware
types - that column is much more complete now. They also found some
*problem childres" - that info hasn't been input yet.

Susan
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[Susan Bugher]

The program onlineTV - http://onlinetv.flatserv.de/ - is *ADWARE*

Adware is not permitted on the Pricelessware List - see:

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/2004proceduresPL.htm

onlineTV has been *removed* from the Nominations list.

FYI - below is a Google translation of a quote from the German website:

<quote>

What costs that everything?
Completely simply: Nothing! onlineTV Freeware is in the
advertising-financed version ! They can use onlineTV completely freely,
it result only the on-line costs of your InterNet connection.

Small Systemvorraussetzungen
A condition for the employment of the software is an installed (and more
configured) RealPlayer One as well as the Windows MediaPlayer starting
from version 6.4; both Tools are as Freeware available onlineTV run
under all Windows versions starting from Windows 95 (98, ME, 2000, XP)
and necessarily at least 32 MByte main memories.

</quote>

Susan
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[Susan Bugher]

The Nominations page is here:

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/2004nominationsPL.php

Nominated programs can be evaluated at this time. A valuable program may
been have been overlooked during the nomination period. Late nominations
and seconds are permitted during the discussion period if there is
support for the program.

Programs that were nominated and seconded are listed in the Category
threads. Programs that did not receive a second during the nomination
period are listed below in alphabetical order.


1st Impression
4t Tray Minimizer
AltaVista Toolbar
AnalogX DHCP Fix
AnalogX MaxMem
AR RAM Disk
Arachnophilia
Babya Photo Workshop
Babya System 2004
Borderline address book
CamStudio
CLCL
Clint's Wallpaper Master
Clipomatic
Clippy
ComponentSoftware Diff (CSDiff)
Crowbar
Crystal Player
CustomizeIE
Damn NFO Viewer
DBackup
dBpowerAMP Music Converter (dMC)
Desktop Calendar
Diagram Designer
DirGraph
Display Partition Information (partinfo)
DubIt
Dup Detector
eags on!
Easy Message Express (Easy Message)
EditBINI
EF Commander
EncSpot
Exifer
Fidolook SL
Finale Notepad
FreePDF
FTPGenius
GFI LANguard System Integrity Monitor (S.I.M.)
GnuPG
Gui4Cli
Hallo northern sky (HNSKY)
Hidden Menu
Hot Key Plus
HTML Splitter
Iconoid
ICS Configuration
iDailyDiary
IE Booster
ieSpell
JBCat
Kana Reminder
LastQF
LaunchMate
LightningSearch
Madotate
MBProbe
MesNews
MindMan Personal
Monitor Off
More Properties
Morver
MouseTool
Mozilla Calendar
Mozilla Thunderbird
MsDVR 2000
Mutt
MZ-Tools
NConvert
NetTime
Nfilter
NgDiskCat
Open Pass
Otaku Mascot
Passwords Database
PDF Explorer
Pick-a-Tag
PictureTray
Poppy for Windows
PowerMenu
Proxy Auto Configuration (no-Ads)
PureVoice
Python
Quick Favorites Search (QFS)
Quick Shutdown
Reliable
ResMan
RoundAbout (based on Phoenix Mail (PMO))
ScanDefrag
Servant Salamander
SETI Spy
SETI@Home
Shark-Post
ShowCalc
SimpleCopier
SimpleServer:WWW
SiSoftware Sandra
SlickRun
Spam Motel
Speek's encoder frontends
Spell Checker For OE
SplashKiller
Split Files Shell Extension
Splitter &amp; Merger
SpywareGuard
sTILE (formerly HarmTile)
Tclock2
TestDisk
UnPlug n' Pray (UnPNP)
URLBase
VCool
ViPlay
WakeUp
Wave Editor
Windows Privacy Tools (WinPT)
WinVorbis &amp; Vorbix
WMP Scripting Fix
xCAT - Keyboard Network Leds
Xdesk95
XMS.EMS RAMdisk
ZIP 2 Secure EXE


Susan
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[Anonymous]

Susan Bugher wrote:

[snip]
|note: Please nominate programs in an existing category and sub-category.
|(A new sub-category may be suggested if all the existing sub-categories
|seem inappropriate.)
[snip]

I would like to see programs that would fall into a new category or
new sub category accepted whether they are seconded or not. These
programs usually one of a kind freeware. There are loads of graphic
viewers but maybe only one freeware font maker. Or there are two font
maker but one is Adware or limitied in some other way.

-=-

 

[Klaatu]

Programs that were nominated and seconded are listed in the Category
threads. Programs that did not receive a second during the nomination
period are listed below in alphabetical order.

Perhaps I missed getting this second for Python in on time?

See <[email protected]>

 

[Susan Bugher]

Perhaps I missed getting this second for Python in on time?

See <[email protected]>

My bad, I lost track of it. Thanks for the heads-up - I'll make the
correction.

Susan
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