bank site & enabling java

[Dallas]

thanks again & only the word "internet" is in the status bar.

this is the site & error message I see

https://onlinebanking.vccuonline.net/html/Login.aspx

 

[VanguardLH]

thanks again & only the word "internet" is in the status bar.

this is the site & error message I see

https://onlinebanking.vccuonline.net/html/Login.aspx

I just went to that web page. No error message about Javascript. I
clicked on the Login button. Got an error because I didn't enter any
login credentials. I just wanted to check if their Javascript worked on
that page. It did. So it must be the next web page that reports a
Javascript problem; however, I don't have an account there so I cannot
login to get to the next web page.

You could try adding their domain to the Trusted Sites security zone.
If that doesn't work, you'll have to contact them to report that IE8
cannot use their web site. They may be incorrectly detecting the web
browser connecting to them and screwing up on that detection. For
example, they may look for a range of UA (user agent) strings that web
browsers report to identify themselves but the UA string for IE8 is not
in their list.

 

[Twayne]

Thanks Daave & I have subsequently did that & it is checked Enabled &
has been, so that's why I am curious(& frustrated) about it as I had
not been in there to change anything. I am still awaiting to hear
back from the credit union IT people.

thanks again

You have, of course, asked the bank if it's OK to use that rev, right?
I remember when IE6 came out; one of my banks wouldn't allow it for
quite some time after it was released. It's easy to tell what browser
is being used, so they apparently checked the browsers and versions when
you logged in. That particular bank even today will only allow IE for
accessing accounts. None of my other financial places seem to care
though.

A long shot I suppose, but worth asking to make certain.

Twayne

 

[VanguardLH]

I just went to that web page. No error message about Javascript. I
clicked on the Login button. Got an error because I didn't enter any
login credentials. I just wanted to check if their Javascript worked on
that page. It did. So it must be the next web page that reports a
Javascript problem; however, I don't have an account there so I cannot
login to get to the next web page.

You could try adding their domain to the Trusted Sites security zone.
If that doesn't work, you'll have to contact them to report that IE8
cannot use their web site. They may be incorrectly detecting the web
browser connecting to them and screwing up on that detection. For
example, they may look for a range of UA (user agent) strings that web
browsers report to identify themselves but the UA string for IE8 is not
in their list.

Because some sites look for specify UA strings to identify which web
browser is being used, and because they may not yet have added the UA
string for a later version of IE. You can install an add-on that has IE
lie to the site as to which web browser version it is (i.e., it makes IE
report a different UA string).

http://www.ieaddons.com/en/details/other/UAPick_UserAgent_Switcher/

After starting IE, use the UA Pick toolbar button to open the dialog
from where you select which UA string that the web browser will report.
See if picking the IE6 UA string works. If it does, the bank site is
screwed up and needs to get the web pages updated regarding the
detection of which web browser is being used to render its web pages.

 

[Daave]

I just went to that web page. No error message about Javascript. I
clicked on the Login button. Got an error because I didn't enter any
login credentials. I just wanted to check if their Javascript worked
on that page. It did. So it must be the next web page that reports a
Javascript problem; however, I don't have an account there so I cannot
login to get to the next web page.

You could try adding their domain to the Trusted Sites security zone.
If that doesn't work, you'll have to contact them to report that IE8
cannot use their web site.

Unless I missed something, Dallas is using IE7, not IE8 (check his sig).

 

[Daave]

hope this finds all doing well.

just tried to log into my credit union's site & they now say :"Your
browser is not capable of viewing this site because it does not
support JavaScript or JavaScript may be disabled. Please enable
JavaScript on your browser. "
I am trying to find out how to enable it, but still searching.

any/all will be appreciated - thanks ia!

Until you fix your IE issue, why not try another Web browser for now?
Opera, Firefox, and K-Meleon are all very good. Links:

http://www.opera.com/

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ie.html

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/

You don't even need to make your alternate browser the default one.
Whenever you want to use it, simply double-click the desktop shortcut
icon.

 

[VanguardLH]

hope this finds all doing well.

just tried to log into my credit union's site & they now say :"Your browser
is not capable of viewing this site because it does not support JavaScript
or JavaScript may be disabled. Please enable JavaScript on your browser. "

I am trying to find out how to enable it, but still searching.

any/all will be appreciated - thanks ia!

Can you run the Javascript tests at the site below?

http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html

 

[Twayne]

I just went to that web page. No error message about Javascript. I
clicked on the Login button. Got an error because I didn't enter any
login credentials. I just wanted to check if their Javascript worked
on that page. It did. So it must be the next web page that reports a
Javascript problem; however, I don't have an account there so I cannot
login to get to the next web page.

You could try adding their domain to the Trusted Sites security zone.
If that doesn't work, you'll have to contact them to report that IE8
cannot use their web site. They may be incorrectly detecting the web
browser connecting to them and screwing up on that detection. For
example, they may look for a range of UA (user agent) strings that web
browsers report to identify themselves but the UA string for IE8 is
not in their list.

In HELP, it says:
.... Using an unsupported browser may affect the look and layout of your
home banking session. Additionally, some tools and messages may not
load. For more details or a list of supported browsers, please call us
at 805/ 477-4000 or 800/ 339-0496 or email us at (e-mail address removed).
Thank you. ...

Have you checked that out?

Twayne

 

[Dallas]

thanks twayne & i have been using this site of theirs for years & even as
late as 2 days before i started this post. thanks again

 

[Dallas]

thank you vanguard as i added it to the trusted sites & the issue still
remains, i just emailed them again, since its been 2 days since they said
they'd get back to me. again, thanks

 

[Dallas]

thanks twayne & have been waiting for their emailed reply for 2 days, but
due to neck/throat cancer, i cannot call them. thanks again

 

[Dallas]

i'll try that daave, as my maxthon will not work for it is also tied into
ie, somehow, i believe. so will try another next time online - not feeling
well of late. thanks again

 

[Dallas]

thanks very much for this - been running for over 5 minutes now as i see the
same sites again & again - not sure how long it is to run.

its now done & here's the results:

============================================
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
--------------------------------------------
Total: 81890.8ms +/- 28.7%
--------------------------------------------

3d: 3191.0ms +/- 1.9%
cube: 844.0ms +/- 4.6%
morph: 928.2ms +/- 3.2%
raytrace: 1418.8ms +/- 2.0%

access: 3902.8ms +/- 0.8%
binary-trees: 1075.0ms +/- 2.7%
fannkuch: 1365.4ms +/- 3.4%
nbody: 771.8ms +/- 5.2%
nsieve: 690.6ms +/- 3.0%

bitops: 3147.0ms +/- 1.5%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 840.8ms +/- 3.4%
bits-in-byte: 781.2ms +/- 0.0%
bitwise-and: 803.2ms +/- 1.3%
nsieve-bits: 721.8ms +/- 3.0%

controlflow: 1012.4ms +/- 2.1%
recursive: 1012.4ms +/- 2.1%

crypto: 2209.4ms +/- 1.3%
aes: 846.8ms +/- 3.8%
md5: 684.2ms +/- 3.6%
sha1: 678.4ms +/- 1.6%

date: 2025.2ms +/- 2.8%
format-tofte: 959.6ms +/- 5.6%
format-xparb: 1065.6ms +/- 2.0%

math: 2534.4ms +/- 1.6%
cordic: 974.8ms +/- 1.1%
partial-sums: 622.0ms +/- 5.6%
spectral-norm: 937.6ms +/- 0.0%

regexp: 546.8ms +/- 4.4%
dna: 546.8ms +/- 4.4%

string: 63321.8ms +/- 37.0%
base64: 35150.2ms +/- 65.8%
fasta: 1168.6ms +/- 1.4%
tagcloud: 8078.2ms +/- 3.8%
unpack-code: 1278.2ms +/- 4.5%
validate-input: 17646.6ms +/- 2.6%

 

[Dallas]

here's a comparison run, run right after the previous one.

thanks again

============================================
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
--------------------------------------------
Total: 107222.8ms +/- 30.3%
--------------------------------------------

3d: 3556.0ms +/- 14.2%
cube: 915.8ms +/- 10.2%
morph: 1002.8ms +/- 11.2%
raytrace: 1637.4ms +/- 20.7%

access: 4337.2ms +/- 13.8%
binary-trees: 1219.2ms +/- 17.7%
fannkuch: 1546.8ms +/- 19.9%
nbody: 824.6ms +/- 8.3%
nsieve: 746.6ms +/- 7.3%

bitops: 3488.2ms +/- 9.2%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 947.2ms +/- 10.5%
bits-in-byte: 840.6ms +/- 9.1%
bitwise-and: 912.8ms +/- 9.2%
nsieve-bits: 787.6ms +/- 9.3%

controlflow: 1125.2ms +/- 10.3%
recursive: 1125.2ms +/- 10.3%

crypto: 2431.0ms +/- 10.5%
aes: 959.6ms +/- 11.8%
md5: 727.6ms +/- 8.8%
sha1: 743.8ms +/- 13.1%

date: 2262.6ms +/- 9.8%
format-tofte: 1053.2ms +/- 9.3%
format-xparb: 1209.4ms +/- 11.0%

math: 2760.0ms +/- 10.7%
cordic: 1062.6ms +/- 10.6%
partial-sums: 659.6ms +/- 10.5%
spectral-norm: 1037.8ms +/- 11.9%

regexp: 565.8ms +/- 8.9%
dna: 565.8ms +/- 8.9%

string: 86696.8ms +/- 35.2%
base64: 54065.6ms +/- 51.7%
fasta: 1353.0ms +/- 10.8%
tagcloud: 9140.8ms +/- 8.0%
unpack-code: 1437.6ms +/- 8.4%
validate-input: 20699.8ms +/- 9.1%

 

[Daave]

As you may know, Maxthon is not a browser per se, but rather a "shell"
for Internet Explorer, so it doesn't surprise me you have the same
problem when using it.

I hope you feel better, Dallas.

 

[VanguardLH]

thanks very much for this - been running for over 5 minutes now as i see the
same sites again & again - not sure how long it is to run.

its now done & here's the results:

============================================
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)

<snip>

My total was 8932 (using IE8), 8908 with add-ons disabled. I'm on cable
broadband (12Mbps, or higher, for bandwidth). I'm using a 7-year old
host (AMD Athlon XP 3200+ single core, 2GB RAM). Something is really
slowing down your IE, like maybe an add-on. See if it speeds up if you
run IE with all add-ons disabled.

IE (any version) has the slowest Javascript engine (Jscript). Firefox
is about 3-4 times faster, Chrome is even faster, and Safari bounces
around in its new releases to be slightly faster or slower than Chrome.
So anything involving Javascript for IE is slow (and why Microsoft
better get their head out of their butts if they want to compete as a
platform for the evolving AJAX web apps and desktops showing up).

Nothing would run from that site unless Javascript was working in your
web browser. They build the pages dynamically using Javascript. If
scripting isn't enabled, all you get is a <HTML></HTML> web page (i.e.,
it's empty). So that it runs means Javascript *is* enabled in your web
browser. It is the bank site that farked; however, your score is
exceedingly poor which indicates you have something severely slowing the
performance of your web browser.

 

[Dallas]

thanks very much daave as there are good days, bad days & days in between.
thanks again

 

[Dallas]

thank you daave. i d/led the opera browser & the bank site opened right up
for me, yet still doesn't on ie & maxthon); what does this tell you ? i have
no clue whatsoever, as usual.

again, thanks & enjoy the rest of your weekend

 

[Daave]

It tells me that:

1. There is still some setting in IE that needs to be changed

2. You need to close IE and empty the browser cache and run IE again

3. There is a plugin or a third-party program interfering with IE's
scripting

or

4. You may have malware

I am glad that Opera is working for you. The first thing I would do is
close IE, empty the browser cache (there are many different ways to do
this; if you need guidance, post back) and reboot. And checking for
malware is always wise. If no joy, give us a complete list of all your
security programs (firewall, antivirus, antispyware, etc.).

Good luck!

 

[Dallas]

thanks daave & emptying the browser is one thing I do know how to do ! i
will do that, close., reboot & also run my security programs.

i use:

the windows firewall
spybot
ccleaner
spyware blaster
avg's free antivirus
ad-aware
super antispyware free edition

i only have 1 running in the background.

also, why, after all this time, did this start to happen ? it would have to
be on their end, no ? i have not changed a thing on my machine.

again, many thanks