You've got to be kidding me....

[AlexB]

M$

What does this fu*cking dollars sign mean? It is almost like tapping on the
cement restroom floor. Too much reading of Marxist sh*it, my dear. Go to
Cuba, North Korea, everything there is free, no dollar signs, no Microsoft,
no super rich Bill Gates only a couple of your friendly murderous dictators.

Go, go go! There will be hundreds willing to take your place.

Leftist symbolism in its most naked form.

Has MS ever stolen anything from you, communist IDIOT?

 

[zachd [MSFT]]

I'm assuming you're not an application developer? If you load up one of
those games in a tool such as depends.exe, you'll note that they take
advantage of new Vista features - RegisterApplicationRestart,
SetProcessDPIAaware, etc. Since the goal is to make sure these work great
on Vista, XP backwards compatibility was probably a non-goal for the team -
and in fact time spent working on that would have been time not spent making
their Vista code work better. That likely leads to a joke response, but
that would only prove the point that you're requesting a feature that's at
best a distraction and in this particular case would have removed
Vista-niceties. Degrading the experience for the actual audience in order
to meet this scenario of yours would seem counter-productive and bad
management at its "finest". =)

 

[DP]

I never once said it or microsoft sucks (I don't have to),

So, you're saying you never said MS sucks, but you believe that to be true?

 

[DP]

Please feel free to climb down off your moral high horse.

You're the one who started this off by criticizing microsoft for the way in
which they formulated their product. I'd say you're the one who tried to
grab the moral high ground here.
And I don't care if people criticize Microsoft, breast feeding, President
Bush, whatever. It's just that if they do so illogically, I think they
should be called on it.
I don't see much difference between what you're saying and, say, someone who
criticizes Sony because Sony's DVD players won't play Betamax videotapes.

 

[DP]

No retard,

Nice to see that your level of argument is very very high. To further your
education, I suggest you look up "ad hominem attacks."

he's just commenting on the unnecessary, stupid things that
M$ does.

M$? That's hilarious. You ever see people who call it "Microsux" or
"Microbux"? My ass rolls on the floor laughing everytime I see that.
And "Windoze"? Man, that just kills me.

 

[Mr. Arnold]

<snipped>

Who are you kidding? It really comes down to who is setting behind that
wheel and is doing the driving. It seems that you can't drive no matter how
much expertise you claim that you have, and I have read a couple of your
posts in this thread, gee. You don't need a computer, as you're too
dangerous, and you'll shot yourself in your own foot.

Only a 2 year old would do what you have done, and then when the O/S comes
back and tells you that it can't be done, because Vista is a different
platform than the XP platform even though they are both NT based O/S(s), you
start whining about it.

 

[thetruthhurts]

I'm not sure what your communist, gay orientardation has to do with
this, but M$ is well documented, google is your friend. Or live
search if you are a true blind M$ fanatic.

 

[NoStop]

Nice to see that your level of argument is very very high. To further your
education, I suggest you look up "ad hominem attacks."



M$? That's hilarious. You ever see people who call it "Microsux" or
"Microbux"? My ass rolls on the floor laughing everytime I see that.
And "Windoze"? Man, that just kills me.

WINDOZE. OK, you promised, now go and die.

Cheers.

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Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
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[NoStop]

So, you're saying you never said MS sucks, but you believe that to be
true?

Duh! Think about over night and you might figure out what he meant. Then
again, maybe not.

Cheers.

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Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
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[DP]

Duh! Think about over night and you might figure out what he meant. Then
again, maybe not.

I just thought it was funny that he said he didnt say microsoft sucks, but
then implied that he believes that's the case. If so, then what's the
freakin' point about complaining about what I said? Don't YOU see something
illogical in that? I'll let you think on it overnight, too.

 

[Universe_JDJ]

uhm... good point - after all, they let you post here.

Haha. +1.

 

[Universe_JDJ]

I'm critisizing it because it (besides all the many other reasons people
ciritize it for), is that basic apps should not be so complicated, and
certainally there was no reason for Microsfot to prevent these apps from
being used on previous versions.


No, you're inserting words into my mouth. Stick with what was written
please. I never once said it or microsoft sucks (I don't have to), and
it's not stealing. It's as much stealing as running 3.0's Reversi in
WinXp, for instance.

Please feel free to climb down off your moral high horse.

Vista's built-in applications are for running Vista. XP's built in
Applications are for running on XP. You don't have the right to complain
if an application that you ripped from a NEWER OS doesn't work on a
OLDER one.

Do you go up and email the Crysis developers demanding a DOS version to
be released because it shouldn't have to be complicated? I hope not.

 

[Universe_JDJ]

They are both Windows, and Vista is not all that different from XP. IT's
the next iteration of the NT core o nthe inside. A lot of these
"incompatibilities" are deliberate and artifical, as yet another way
Microsoft to try to force people to Vista.

http://extended64.com/blogs/rafael/archive/2005/10/22/1446.aspx

You can in fact get those games ot run on XP, 2000, 2003 and such wit ha
simple patch that actualyl repairs what is actualy a malformed PE
header. That's the main reason why they don't run, according to some
more reading I've done. Digital sabotage.

This is no different the another software compatibilities on the Vista
side of things. I've gotten almost any programs that wouldn't run on
Vista because of not being "compatible with Vista" will run just fine if
you actually look at what it's trying to access (regmon, filemon, and
such). SO like I said, a lot of articicial road blocks in Vista. Most
likely designed to make you go out and buy newer version of products
that other worj just fine as (and sometimes better then) the newer
version. Like Office 2007. 2003 works great, but is sabbotaged* for no
good reason in Vista. I wonder why...



* Office 2003 runs for the most part actually, but many things just
don't work right, such as saving settings (Outlook and such) and there
just isn't any good reason for it.

You post as if you are saying you expect Microsoft to say "let's get
everyone back onto an older operating system and totally ignore our
brand new product."

And why exactly are you making wild, eccentric guesses as to if it was
digital sabotage. The article you mention doesn't mention digital
sabotage at all. Have you examined the source code directly? (and can
you provide viable evidence as such?)

 

[Saran]

I just thought it was funny that he said he didnt say microsoft
sucks, but then implied that he believes that's the case. If so, then
what's the freakin' point about complaining about what I said? Don't
YOU see something illogical in that? I'll let you think on it
overnight, too.

No microsoft doesn't suck. We must praise them and give them money for
things like this:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/01/04/vista.drm.and.netflix/



No effing thanks.

 

[Saran]

You're the one who started this off by criticizing microsoft for the
way in which they formulated their product. I'd say you're the one
who tried to grab the moral high ground here.

Oh I have far better reason to critize microsoft, that was just another
unnecessary move.

But it really is nothing when you compare it to utter BS like this:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/01/04/vista.drm.and.netflix/
(This is yet another example of one of the many core problems of Vista)


Yeah I really want an OS that's going to assume the roll of big brother
and pretend it knows what's better for me.

If that's the sort of thing you look for in an operating system, then by
all means use it. The rest of us will be using systems that don't
intentionally get in our way.

 

[DP]

No microsoft doesn't suck. We must praise them and give them money for
things like this:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/01/04/vista.drm.and.netflix/



No effing thanks.

So why are you accusing me of putting words in your mouth when I said you
think Microsoft sucks?
You do. And you're entitled to your opinion. Embrace it.

 

[Saran]

Vista's built-in applications are for running Vista. XP's built in
Applications are for running on XP. You don't have the right to
complain if an application that you ripped from a NEWER OS doesn't
work on a OLDER one.

Yes it's a newer program, but the critical difference between, say,
running 98, 200, XP on, say, 95, or running 98/2000/XP on 3.1, is of
true technical differences, what things the program needed.

The same is not true. The so-called "vista only" programs/games such as
the basic games, are nothing special. The are Win32 apps with altered
headers, and it's been proved that what most need to work on
2000/XP/2003 is to "repair" the header. After the fix most will run
flawless. The oens that take more effort simpyl require some additional
resource, like the titan chess, but it too will and deoes run under XP.

Do you go up and email the Crysis developers demanding a DOS version
to be released because it shouldn't have to be complicated? I hope
not.

Two completely different comparisons. And actually DX10 games can be
made to run on XP, it's bene done. There is aleady a DX10 port.

Again, many of the "road blocks" are intentional, to serve as way to
heard poeopple over to Vista, which imho is one of the most dangerous
operating systems to date:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/01/04/vista.drm.and.netflix/

This is just one more reaosn why.

 

[Saran]

You post as if you are saying you expect Microsoft to say "let's get
everyone back onto an older operating system and totally ignore our
brand new product."

If the older one is actually better, than I say that's not a bad idea.

Why would one want to deal with this sort of horse crap:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/01/04/vista.drm.and.netflix/

You really think we should all move to a system that tried this, among
other DRM and foprce/control related things? If you want such
restrictions and that ever loving big-brother feeling and down right
being treated like a g'damn criminal on your own mahcine, then Vista
just might be the system for you.

For me, NO effing thanks.

 

[Saran]

You do. And you're entitled to your opinion. Embrace it.

The evidence Aginst MS and Vista is hardly anythign to do with my
opinion. In fact, I find articles like that one that I keep finding and
hearing about all the time can be down right scary to think that's
what's microsoft is trying to turn the PC platform into.

Please don't tell me you actually support things like that.

 

[Saran]

I think the corporations in question should kick your as*s out on the
street and hire competent people.
Perhaps you should instead find a few *****corpatorations***** to
make a living.

Let's see, you're picking a bone about a simple typo. Oh no, holy hell,
everyone get out your pitchforks...... grow up..


Actually, the -corporations- we do business with are quite greatful for
the work we do for them. The ones that actually have a semblance of
intelligence when it comes to anything resembling a computer, know to
stay the hell away from Vista for any ration reason.

Events like those in this article just happens to be but one of those:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/01/04/vista.drm.and.netflix/

It will solve all the Vista problems for them overnight. there are a
few MVPs around here who will be happy to take your place.

Dear god please tell me you're kidding.

1) Those who actually went ahead with Vista despite the problems counted
on us to get thigns running in some sain manner, and we did jsut that
(as far as Vista will allow.) 2 of those actually asked us to help them
migrate back to XP and Windows 2000 this past month. The others are fine
and dandy after we got everything running as smooth as Vista-ly possible
and nuked all the annoyances they asked to be remmidied.

2) God couldn't fix all the problems in Vista in an evolutionary cycle
of the planet.