Windows XP SP3....Need Windows XP SP2 to run program

[tanisla]

I'm wondering if I can uninstall Windows XP SP3 & install Windows XP2,
without having problems later? The reason for this is: I'm unable to run
Windows Movie Maker; this program requires having SP2 to run. Please help.

 

[JS]

I'm wondering if I can uninstall Windows XP SP3 & install Windows XP2,
without having problems later? The reason for this is: I'm unable to run
Windows Movie Maker; this program requires having SP2 to run. Please help.

You can go to the Control Panel's Add/Remove programs
to uninstall SP3 and you will then be back to SP2. However
there is a very large System Restore point file create when
you first installed SP3 and if the SP3 install was done weeks
ago this file/Restore Point most like will no longer be available.

 

[peter]

Windows Movie Maker runs perfectly well on XP SP3.........
Are you sure you have XP SP3??
which version of Movie maker are you trying to use??

peter

 

[BillW50]

In JS typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:43:10 -0400:

You can go to the Control Panel's Add/Remove programs
to uninstall SP3 and you will then be back to SP2. However
there is a very large System Restore point file create when
you first installed SP3 and if the SP3 install was done weeks
ago this file/Restore Point most like will no longer be available.

I didn't know Movie Maker v2.1 doesn't work with SP3. Is there a
compatibility list or better yet an incompatible list? So people don't
have to go through all of the trouble of installing SP3 and then learn
later they really need SP2 instead.

 

[db]

interestingly:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/moviemaker2.mspx

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[Richard in AZ]

To the original poster.
I think is interesting the interpretation people put on the specs. "Requires SP2 must mean you need
to remove SP3"
That is like saying you must have 200 horse power engine to go up a hill, since I have a 300 hp
engine, i will have change my engine back to a 200 hp if I want to go up that hill.

I suspect there was something wrong with the system rather than the need to downgrade. Fix the SP3
or Movie Maker problem.

| interestingly:
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/moviemaker2.mspx
|
| --
| db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
| DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
| - Systems Analyst
| - Database Developer
| - Accountancy
| - Veteran of the Armed Forces
| - @Hotmail.com
|
| "share the nirvana mann" - dbZen
|
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| >
| >
|
| | > In | > JS typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:43:10 -0400:
| >> | >>> I'm wondering if I can uninstall Windows XP SP3 & install Windows
| >>> XP2, without having problems later? The reason for this is: I'm
| >>> unable to run Windows Movie Maker; this program requires having SP2
| >>> to run. Please help.
| >>
| >> You can go to the Control Panel's Add/Remove programs
| >> to uninstall SP3 and you will then be back to SP2. However
| >> there is a very large System Restore point file create when
| >> you first installed SP3 and if the SP3 install was done weeks
| >> ago this file/Restore Point most like will no longer be available.
| >
| > I didn't know Movie Maker v2.1 doesn't work with SP3. Is there a
| > compatibility list or better yet an incompatible list? So people don't
| > have to go through all of the trouble of installing SP3 and then learn
| > later they really need SP2 instead.
| >
| > --
| > Bill
| > Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
| > Windows XP SP2
| >

 

[BillW50]

In Richard in AZ typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:36:21 -0700:

To the original poster.
I think is interesting the interpretation people put on the specs.
"Requires SP2 must mean you need to remove SP3"
That is like saying you must have 200 horse power engine to go up a
hill, since I have a 300 hp engine, i will have change my engine back
to a 200 hp if I want to go up that hill.

I suspect there was something wrong with the system rather than the
need to downgrade. Fix the SP3 or Movie Maker problem.

Well maybe you are right about WMM, but there have been reported
problems with other applications. OE6 autocleanup stalls on folders.dbx
for example if you upgrade to SP3. I also noticed that MS EWF isn't
protecting SP3 from writes to the system drive. I am still investigating
why that is.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I'm wondering if I can uninstall Windows XP SP3 & install Windows XP2,
without having problems later? The reason for this is: I'm unable to run
Windows Movie Maker; this program requires having SP2 to run. Please help.

Although I don't use Movie Maker, and don't know anything about it, it
is *highly* unlikely that it requires SP2. Almost certainly, wherever
you read that, it simply means that *at least* SP2 is required.

 

[Bill in Co.]

In Richard in AZ typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:36:21 -0700:

Well maybe you are right about WMM, but there have been reported
problems with other applications. OE6 autocleanup stalls on folders.dbx
for example if you upgrade to SP3.

OE6 autocleanup??? You mean folder compaction? I haven't had any such
problems here (using SP3 and OE6), and I compact those dbx folders
routinely.

 

[BillW50]

In Bill in Co. typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:05:53 -0600:

OE6 autocleanup??? You mean folder compaction? I haven't had any
such problems here (using SP3 and OE6), and I compact those dbx
folders routinely.

Yes that is what I mean. And if you wait until it tells you that it
needs to compact (counter hits 100 in the registry), it will hang on
folder.dbx. This only happens with SP3. And since Microsoft has dropped
support for IE6, no bug fixes are planned. If you compact routinely
before the message that it needs too, you should be fine.

 

[John]

The reason for this is: I'm unable to run
Windows Movie Maker

What is the problem with WMM?

; this program requires having SP2 to run.

I'm using WMM with XP SP3. No problem here.

 

[Bill in Co.]

In Bill in Co. typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:05:53 -0600:

Yes that is what I mean. And if you wait until it tells you that it
needs to compact (counter hits 100 in the registry), it will hang on
folder.dbx. This only happens with SP3. And since Microsoft has dropped
support for IE6, no bug fixes are planned. If you compact routinely
before the message that it needs too, you should be fine.

Well, I've never waited until it got to that point! But if that is indeed
the case, how do you get OE back working again??

Frankly, I'm quite surprised no one else has commented on this in here. If
it true for all folks with SP3 and OE, I would think there would be a ton of
posts on this!

 

[BillW50]

In Bill in Co. typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:55:36 -0600:

Well, I've never waited until it got to that point! But if that is
indeed the case, how do you get OE back working again??

Frankly, I'm quite surprised no one else has commented on this in
here. If it true for all folks with SP3 and OE, I would think there
would be a ton of posts on this!

It comes up in time to time in the
microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general newsgroup. I am not sure what
the plan is if you get to that point.They would know though.

 

[Ian D]

In Bill in Co. typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:05:53 -0600:

Yes that is what I mean. And if you wait until it tells you that it needs
to compact (counter hits 100 in the registry), it will hang on folder.dbx.
This only happens with SP3. And since Microsoft has dropped support for
IE6, no bug fixes are planned. If you compact routinely before the message
that it needs too, you should be fine.

That's strange. I've had the message, and let it compact, a
number of times since I installed SP3 with no issues. In
fact, I never compact my email folders. I have always let
OE6 do it when it asks to every 3 to 4 weeks, with never
a problem.

 

[N. Miller]

... if you wait until it tells you that it needs to compact (counter
hits 100 in the registry), it will hang on folder.dbx. This only
happens with SP3.

Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3 here. I've had MSOE hit the 100 mark at least three
times, now; and I've never had the compact process hang on 'folder.dbx'.

 

[N. Miller]

I'm wondering if I can uninstall Windows XP SP3 & install Windows XP2,
without having problems later? The reason for this is: I'm unable to run
Windows Movie Maker; this program requires having SP2 to run. Please help.

Which version? I have Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234) :
Service Pack 3), and it runs under Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3 without a hitch.

 

[N. Miller]

Which version? I have Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234) :
Service Pack 3), and it runs under Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3 without a hitch.

Bah. Just re-read the "About" info box; that was all the OS version stuff.
Here is the WMM version stuff: 2.1.4026.0.

 

[BillW50]

In N. Miller typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:29:04 -0700:

Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3 here. I've had MSOE hit the 100 mark at
least three times, now; and I've never had the compact process hang
on 'folder.dbx'.

Well Norman... Bruce Hagen is the expert about this. He is found in the
OE6 newsgroup. Here is his canned response to this problem. I run Live
Mail on my XP SP3 machines, so I avoid this problem.

--- START ----

Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:

This is a known issue and will never be fixed. Therefore, compact your
folders manually. The counter will be reset to zero, and a manual
compact
won't hang.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until
the compacting is completed.

If you get it the habit of compacting before the 100th closing, (i.e.
once a
week, or so), you will never see the prompt again.

--- END ----

 

[Bill in Co.]

Maybe its an issue for just *some* SP3 users, and not all? That sounds
more likely. I wonder if its been discussed in Tomsterdam's OE web page.

In N. Miller typed on Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:29:04 -0700:

Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3 here. I've had MSOE hit the 100 mark at
least three times, now; and I've never had the compact process hang
on 'folder.dbx'.

Well Norman... Bruce Hagen is the expert about this. He is found in the
OE6 newsgroup. Here is his canned response to this problem. I run Live
Mail on my XP SP3 machines, so I avoid this problem.

--- START ----

Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:

This is a known issue and will never be fixed. Therefore, compact your
folders manually. The counter will be reset to zero, and a manual
compact won't hang.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
until the compacting is completed.

If you get it the habit of compacting before the 100th closing, (i.e.
once a week, or so), you will never see the prompt again.

--- END ----

--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

 

[N. Miller]

Well Norman... Bruce Hagen is the expert about this. He is found in the
OE6 newsgroup. Here is his canned response to this problem. I run Live
Mail on my XP SP3 machines, so I avoid this problem.

I will keep that in mind, in case I ever see a hang. So far, though, not.
May be other variables at play, which trigger some computers, but not
others, to encounter the problem.