Windows Won't Boot

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Dustin

I have Windows XP Home Edition SP1 on one of my computers
and it was working just fine yesterday and today it wont
boot into Windows.

The computer, itself, boots and passes the POST but once
that is over and it gets on to booting Windows, I see the
Windows screen for like a second, then a BSOD for a
fraction of a second and then, click, it reboots. If I try
to boot it again the same sequence of events happen. I
think I might have a boot sector virus.

I have two boot profiles, one for regular computing and
another optimised for gaming.

Oh, I almost forgot, I bought and installed a new video
card a few days ago. It is a PNY Verto nVidia GeForce FX
5200 AGP (What a long name....). I don't think that is the
problem though because it worked just fine yesterday.

I really don't know how to solve this problem. I had to
post this message on my old laptop. I really want to get my
regular computer up and running again soon because it can
do things my laptop isn't capable of.

I don't really want to reinstall Windows because I do not
want to end up reinstalling my programs and losing
un-replacable files. I have tried using the Recover Console
on the XP CD and have tried rewriting the MBR. Didn't work.

Any help would be great.
 
Dustin--

Odds are much stronger this is caused by a hardware driver problem than a
bootsector virus. To get to Windows try this:

Use the F8 key to boot into Safe Mode. When you get to the Windows Advanced
Options menu, select Safe Mode. TrtySystem Restore in Safe Mode using a
restore point before this happened. If it won't work, then try F8 to boot
into Safe Mode with A Command Prompt.

Screen Shots of the Windows Advanced Options Menu and a Repair Install

http://www.theeldergeek.com/repairing_windows_xp.htm

How to start the System Restore tool from a command prompt in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304449

If this won't work, then F8 into the Windows Advanced Options menu and
select Last Known Good configuration and try to use that to get you back to
Windows.

If these options won't work, then try to perform a repair install (inplace
upgrade of Win XP).

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q315341

hth,

Chad Harris
____________________________________________________________________________
 
I have tried

- Safe Mode
- Safe Mode w/ Comannand Prompt
- Last Good Config

None work. I tried with both profiles

You say its probaly caused by a hardware driver problem and
one of your reccomendations is to to a re install but
Q315341 says "Do not use a repair or in-place upgrade if
you suspect a problem with a non-Microsoft device and the
latest device drivers are currently installed for the device."

Hmm...

I'm trying the reinstall and repair but it doenst think
Windows is on the hard drive.

All it says it

38163 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on bus 0 on atapi [MBR]
C: Partition1 [Unknown] 38162 MB (38162 MB) Free.

I didnt format the C: drive but it seems like it is. What
is wrong here?
 
Dustin--

I wish I could come up with a solution to get you to Windows, but I don't
know the exact cause. There are of course repairs you can make when you
can't boot up to Windows with the Recovery Console, but you have to have an
idea of and good reason for what you're targeting to repair with the RC or
you may do more harm. *If you could get to Windows, I'd want you to check
your drivers and possibly update them if needed and do a viral scan.* I
just meant that fortunately the difficult problem of boot sector viruses is
relatively rare compared with BSODs due to drive problems since hardware
compatibilities in general and driver problems specifically probably account
for 85% of BSODs or "stop errors." The error and failure to repair if you
followed the steps in the Inplace Upgrade/Repair install suggests you may
have damaged your partitions in some way and booting to windows may not be
possible.

The catch 22 of not being able to get to Windows is that if you could, you
could freeze your BSOD so you could read it by Windows key+Pause Break
Key>Advanced tab>Startup and Recovery Settings>Take Check out of Automatic
Start under System Failure.

I appreciate the wisdom in the caveat against an in place upgrade of
Q315341, but they don't address the question of what you do to get up to
Windows when your options are diminishing do they? You could deal with a
3rd party device driver from Windows and maybe the assumption of the KB is
that you're able to get up to Windows.

See:

Doug Knox: How Do I Do a Repair Install?

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_install.htm

You could try repairing the master boot record by accessing the Recovery
Console and using the fixmbr command from the Recovery console, but it would
be shotgunning to an extent. One potentially worthwhile and relatively
harmless move you can make is to run a chkdsk /r from the Recovery Console.
You can also disable a service or device from the recovery console that may
be causing the problem, but to do this you'd have to have an educated guess
as to what device that might be. Have you installed any new hardware
recently? If you had it or its driver would be suspect.


Error Message: Windows Could Not Start Because of a Computer Disk Hardware
Configuration Problem


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314477&Product=winxp

How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310602&Product=winxp

*Boot Discs to Get You to Windows*

You could also try to make boot discs for XP from the computer you're using.

http://www.bootdisk.com/

How to Use System Files to Create a Boot Disk to Guard Against Being Unable
to Start Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314079&Product=winxp

HOW TO: Create a Boot Disk for an NTFS or FAT Partition in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305595&Product=winxp

Obtaining Windows XP Setup Boot Disks
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;310994

See these, particularly the first one. The other two are background on the
Recovery Console, and show you how to boot into the Recovery Console from
the XP-CDROM. You will have to go to the bios and make sure that the boot
order allows you to boot from the CD-ROM. The Recovery Console retains 13 of
the previous old dos commands and has other commands for fixing your OS when
you can't boot to it.

Computer Stops Responding with a Black Screen When You Start Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314503&Product=winxp

Support WebCast: Microsoft Windows XP: Exploring Boot Options and Recovery
Console
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324465&Product=winxp



HOW TO: Install and Use the Recovery Console in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307654&Product=winxp

Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058&Product=winxp
Error Message When You Run fixmbr Command

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;266745

hth,

Chad Harris
___________________________________________________________________________________




Dustin said:
I have tried

- Safe Mode
- Safe Mode w/ Comannand Prompt
- Last Good Config

None work. I tried with both profiles

You say its probaly caused by a hardware driver problem and
one of your reccomendations is to to a re install but
Q315341 says "Do not use a repair or in-place upgrade if
you suspect a problem with a non-Microsoft device and the
latest device drivers are currently installed for the device."

Hmm...

I'm trying the reinstall and repair but it doenst think
Windows is on the hard drive.

All it says it

38163 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on bus 0 on atapi [MBR]
C: Partition1 [Unknown] 38162 MB (38162 MB) Free.

I didnt format the C: drive but it seems like it is. What
is wrong here?

-----Original Message-----
I have Windows XP Home Edition SP1 on one of my computers
and it was working just fine yesterday and today it wont
boot into Windows.

The computer, itself, boots and passes the POST but once
that is over and it gets on to booting Windows, I see the
Windows screen for like a second, then a BSOD for a
fraction of a second and then, click, it reboots. If I try
to boot it again the same sequence of events happen. I
think I might have a boot sector virus.

I have two boot profiles, one for regular computing and
another optimised for gaming.

Oh, I almost forgot, I bought and installed a new video
card a few days ago. It is a PNY Verto nVidia GeForce FX
5200 AGP (What a long name....). I don't think that is the
problem though because it worked just fine yesterday.

I really don't know how to solve this problem. I had to
post this message on my old laptop. I really want to get my
regular computer up and running again soon because it can
do things my laptop isn't capable of.

I don't really want to reinstall Windows because I do not
want to end up reinstalling my programs and losing
un-replacable files. I have tried using the Recover Console
on the XP CD and have tried rewriting the MBR. Didn't work.

Any help would be great.
.
 
Dustin said:
I have tried

- Safe Mode
- Safe Mode w/ Comannand Prompt
- Last Good Config

I think your best bet then, presuming you have a regular XP CD and not
some OEM restore one (which will only put things back to ex-factory
state, scrubbing the disk), is a repair reinstall. Set the BIOS to boot
CD before Hard disk, then boot the XP CD, start Setup (do not take
`Repair` at this stage), then after the license agreement take `Repair
Installation`. This will retain your existing software installations
and most settings. But Updates will have to be run again, especially
SP1 unless the CD includes it.

It is important to activate the basic XP Firewall before you ever
connect to the net to get the patches, so as to be protected against
things like the BLAST worm.
 

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