Is it possible to TRIPLE BOOT?


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casey.o

This is probably a little off topic, because what I'm doing dont involve
XP (yet). I have a computer with Win98, and Win2000. It dual boots
with these OSs. The Win2000 could also be XP, and may be in the future.
I installed the Puppy Linux "Windows installer" (.EXE file). On my XP
(only) computer, the Linux becomes a dual boot. I can select Xp or
Linux.

When I installed linux on my already dual booting W98 and W2K computer,
I did not end up with THREE selections at bootup. Instead I get the
same as before, which is W98 and W2K. If I select W2K, it goes right to
W2K. But is I select W98, I get ANOTHER (secondary) bootmenu, which
asks me to select Win98 or Linux.......

At this point, I am having a problem, because I have the W98 set to boot
to Dos (I have to type WIN to boot Win98). I guess I will have to
change this to boot directly to W98, because presently, if I select
Puppy Linux, my system locks up. I found out that this is because
Grub.exe cant be loaded from Dos. It even says it will lockup if loaded
from a Dos prompt. But if I select Win98, I can type WIN and load 98
without any problem.

The reference to this is in the config.sys file. Replacing my original
config.sys stopped the problem but now I can not load Linux.

Ideally, there should be THREE selections at bootup, but it's not
working that way. Is this possible? How?

Or maybe I'm trying to do the impossible????

Thanks
 
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BillW50

Ideally, there should be THREE selections at bootup, but it's not
working that way. Is this possible? How?

Or maybe I'm trying to do the impossible????

Thanks

Sure it is possible. How? It depends on how you want to do it. From the
sound of it, it sounds like the MBR is booting from the Windows 2000 and
using Windows 2000 boot.ini file first right? If so, I would just add
the other OS in the list. You could even have separate boots for DOS and
Windows 98 if you would like (which would make 4 boots in your example).
 
T

Todd

This is probably a little off topic, because what I'm doing dont involve
XP (yet). I have a computer with Win98, and Win2000. It dual boots
with these OSs. The Win2000 could also be XP, and may be in the future.
I installed the Puppy Linux "Windows installer" (.EXE file). On my XP
(only) computer, the Linux becomes a dual boot. I can select Xp or
Linux.

When I installed linux on my already dual booting W98 and W2K computer,
I did not end up with THREE selections at bootup. Instead I get the
same as before, which is W98 and W2K. If I select W2K, it goes right to
W2K. But is I select W98, I get ANOTHER (secondary) bootmenu, which
asks me to select Win98 or Linux.......

At this point, I am having a problem, because I have the W98 set to boot
to Dos (I have to type WIN to boot Win98). I guess I will have to
change this to boot directly to W98, because presently, if I select
Puppy Linux, my system locks up. I found out that this is because
Grub.exe cant be loaded from Dos. It even says it will lockup if loaded
from a Dos prompt. But if I select Win98, I can type WIN and load 98
without any problem.

The reference to this is in the config.sys file. Replacing my original
config.sys stopped the problem but now I can not load Linux.

Ideally, there should be THREE selections at bootup, but it's not
working that way. Is this possible? How?

Or maybe I'm trying to do the impossible????

Thanks

Hi Casey,

Yes it is. It is pain in the ass. Instead, consider
running virtual machines. That way you can have them
all running at once and don't have to boot back and forth.

Use the operating system you use the most as you base machine.
(I use Red Hat a.k.a Fedora or Scientific Linux). Or
the Operating system that is the most stable (Linux) as
the base.

If you use Linux as the base, then you can back up your
virtual hard drives and when Windows does the Windows
thing, you just rename the old hard drive and start over
with your backup. (Erase the bad one after the restore
works.)

Virtual box works well for workstations:
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Anything that is mission critical, I'd use KVM:
http://www.linux-kvm.com/

Also look into Live CD and Live USB's. You can
have any number of them. I set up a Virtual
machine to boot off of live CD ISOs so I can test
them without having to reboot my whole machine.

HTH,
-T
 
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casey.o

Sure it is possible. How? It depends on how you want to do it. From the
sound of it, it sounds like the MBR is booting from the Windows 2000 and
using Windows 2000 boot.ini file first right? If so, I would just add
the other OS in the list. You could even have separate boots for DOS and
Windows 98 if you would like (which would make 4 boots in your example).

Actually Win98 is the default boot. From what I understand, 98 needed
to be loaded first (which it was). Plus 98 is the only OS that will
connect to the internet with the modem I have. So, I use it most.
Win2K came next. I just tried to add the Puppy linux. It instaklled,
but left me with this problem. I installed it from Win98. I'm
wondering if I'd install it from 2K, if that would matter??? Ideally,
having a separate boot for Dos would be preferred, so 4 boots would be
perfect.

How to manually add to the list (in boot.ini) is puzzling, as far as
what to add????


Thanks
 
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| | >
| > Ideally, there should be THREE selections at bootup, but it's not
| > working that way. Is this possible? How?
| >Re:Re:Re:How to create a Dual Boot Win 98 and XP?

by Art - 4/28/04 8:30 AM
In Reply to: Re:Re:How to create a Dual Boot Win 98 and XP?
by mtnsnappy
With only win98
and XP you really don't need any third party boot manager;
XP should do just fine.
Your problem is the placement of win98.
Can you reinstall win98 or are the datas in it cannot be touch?
If it can't be touch or don't want to reinstall then you need to hook up the
harddrive the old way
(as primary master)..
then reinstall XP
(xp can be install in any partition that you like).

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| > Or maybe I'm trying to do the impossible????
| > Thanks
|
| Sure it is possible. How?
| It depends on how you want to do it.
| From the sound of it, it sounds like
| The MBR is booting from the Windows 2000 and
| Using Windows 2000 boot.ini
| File first right? If so,
| I would just add
| the other OS in the list.
| You could even have separate boots for DOS and
| Windows 98 if you would like
| (which would make 4 boots in your example).

Bill is 100% Right

< http://support.microsoft.com/kb/217210 >

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect



[C:\="Microsoft Windows"is at multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\]
 
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| ||
|| <casey.o
| If it can't be touch or
don't want to reinstall
then you need to hook up the
| harddrive the old way
| (as primary master)..
| then reinstall XP
| (xp can be install in any partition that you like).
|
| Was this reply helpful? (0)(0) Reply
| <


(Linux can be install in any partition that you like).

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\ROOT

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Linux="Not a Microsoft Problem"

multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
|
|||||C:\="Microsoft Windows"is at multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\]
|
 
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| On 04/11/2014 11:53 AM, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
| > This is probably a little off topic, because what I'm doing dont involve
| > XP (yet). I have a computer with Win98, and Win2000. It dual boots
| > with these OSs. The Win2000 could also be XP, and may be in the future.
| > I installed the Puppy Linux "Windows installer" (.EXE file). On my XP
| Hi Casey,
|
| Yes it is. It is pain in the ass. Instead, consider
| running virtual machines. That way you can have them
| all running at once and don't have to boot back and forth.
| Use the operating system you use the most as you base machine.
| (I use Red Hat a.k.a Fedora or Scientific Linux). Or
| the Operating system that is the most stable (Linux) as
| the base.
| If you use Linux as the base, then you can back up your
| virtual hard drives and when Windows does the Windows
| thing, you just rename the old hard drive and start over
| with your backup. (Erase the bad one after the restore
| works.)
| Virtual box works well for workstations:
| https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

That Java Work good in Windows too
Just to put that Linux in a in a Billy-Boxs
 
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|
| >
| >| >>
| >> Ideally, there should be THREE selections at bootup, but it's not
| >> working that way. Is this possible? How?
| >>
| >> Or maybe I'm trying to do the impossible????
| >>
| >> Thanks
| >
| >Sure it is possible. How? It depends on how you want to do it. From the
| >sound of it, it sounds like the MBR is booting from the Windows 2000 and
| >using Windows 2000 boot.ini file first right? If so, I would just add
| >the other OS in the list. You could even have separate boots for DOS and
| >Windows 98 if you would like (which would make 4 boots in your example).
|
| Actually Win98 is the default boot. From what I understand, 98 needed
| to be loaded first (which it was). Plus 98 is the only OS that will
| connect to the internet with the modem I have. So, I use it most.
| Win2K came next. I just tried to add the Puppy linux. It instaklled,
| but left me with this problem. I installed it from Win98. I'm
| wondering if I'd install it from 2K, if that would matter??? Ideally,
| having a separate boot for Dos would be preferred, so 4 boots would be
| perfect.
|
| How to manually add to the list (in boot.ini) is puzzling, as far as
| what to add????
|
|
| Thanks
|
|
 
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Mayayana

While a lot can be done with OS booters, I find
they tend to be quirky. Vista/7 tries to take
everything over. NT will generally boot NT but I'm
not sure whether it will boot Linux. Linux booters
tend to be hard to use, and personally I don't want
to trust my system to a Linux install.
I use BootIt for all partitioning and disk imaging.
I also use the boot manager. With that it's easy to
boot anything you like. You can also edit the boot
files from within the program. There may be similar
options or free, but I don't know one offhand.
 
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Andy

This is probably a little off topic, because what I'm doing dont involve

XP (yet). I have a computer with Win98, and Win2000. It dual boots

with these OSs. The Win2000 could also be XP, and may be in the future.

I installed the Puppy Linux "Windows installer" (.EXE file). On my XP

(only) computer, the Linux becomes a dual boot. I can select Xp or

Linux.



When I installed linux on my already dual booting W98 and W2K computer,

I did not end up with THREE selections at bootup. Instead I get the

same as before, which is W98 and W2K. If I select W2K, it goes right to

W2K. But is I select W98, I get ANOTHER (secondary) bootmenu, which

asks me to select Win98 or Linux.......



At this point, I am having a problem, because I have the W98 set to boot

to Dos (I have to type WIN to boot Win98). I guess I will have to

change this to boot directly to W98, because presently, if I select

Puppy Linux, my system locks up. I found out that this is because

Grub.exe cant be loaded from Dos. It even says it will lockup if loaded

from a Dos prompt. But if I select Win98, I can type WIN and load 98

without any problem.



The reference to this is in the config.sys file. Replacing my original

config.sys stopped the problem but now I can not load Linux.



Ideally, there should be THREE selections at bootup, but it's not

working that way. Is this possible? How?



Or maybe I'm trying to do the impossible????



Thanks

They can help you at this forum.

Andy

http://murga-linux.com/puppyhttp://murga-linux.com/puppy
 
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| || >|| >> Ideally, there should be THREE selections at bootup, but it's not
|| >> working that way. Is this possible? How?
|| >> Or maybe I'm trying to do the impossible????
|| >> Thanks
|| >Sure it is possible. How? It depends on how you want to do it. From the
|| >sound of it, it sounds like the MBR is booting from the Windows 2000 and
|| >using Windows 2000 boot.ini file first right? If so, I would just add
|| >the other OS in the list. You could even have separate boots for DOS and
|| >Windows 98 if you would like (which would make 4 boots in your example).

Win98 Plus | Win2k Sp4 | WinXP Sp3
< http://store.mynews.ath.cx/users/Puppy-linux-0.png >
A Sand Box | Puppy linux
< http://store.mynews.ath.cx/users/Puppy-linux-1.png >

The sand Box is for moving files from OS to OS
that why it is in fat32
So you can move files to win98

just Start with to folder name
Incoming
Outgoing

|| Actually Win98 is the default boot. From what I understand, 98 needed
|| to be loaded first (which it was). Plus 98 is the only OS that will
|| connect to the internet with the modem I have. So, I use it most.
|| Win2K came next. I just tried to add the Puppy linux. It instaklled,
|| but left me with this problem. I installed it from Win98. I'm
|| wondering if I'd install it from 2K, if that would matter??? Ideally,
|| having a separate boot for Dos would be preferred, so 4 boots would be
|| perfect.

Yes i do perfect separate boots
For a too footed man like me


|| How to manually add to the list (in boot.ini) is puzzling, as far as
|| what to add????
|| Thanks

They will add their on Boot list at install
Just like Win2k did to your Windows 98
 
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casey.o

While a lot can be done with OS booters, I find
they tend to be quirky. Vista/7 tries to take
everything over. NT will generally boot NT but I'm
not sure whether it will boot Linux. Linux booters
tend to be hard to use, and personally I don't want
to trust my system to a Linux install.
I use BootIt for all partitioning and disk imaging.
I also use the boot manager. With that it's easy to
boot anything you like. You can also edit the boot
files from within the program. There may be similar
options or free, but I don't know one offhand.

I always felt the same way about not trusting linux, as far as doing
damage to windows. I tried it on a spare HD several times but could
never get it to work. When I first tried this Puppy Linux, I used a
spare HD with a clone of XP on it. This is the linux that is a .EXE
file and install from Windows, (XP, but it appeared to install from W98
too, except for the booting issue, due to my W98 starting in Dos.

Anyhow, it's harmless to windows (the .EXE installer for Puppy). If I
was to try another type of linux, I'd do the same thing using a clone on
a spare HD. Because I have read on the net about people wiping out
windows with some linux installs. But that was quite a while ago, adn
it would have been the traditionsl linux install. I dont know when the
..EXE installer first began, but it appears to be fairly new. It
installs right on the C: drive (or I could choose another partition, or
just run it off a CD or USB flash drive, if my computer could boot from
a USB drive). CD booting is slow as hell, so I'll pass on that.

Anyhow, it just creates three folders on C:, one is the program, the
other is where it saves my settings and personal stuff. The third is
the Grub file, whjch is what makes it boot I think that's what that
does, I know little abotu the actual operation of linux). Then it puts
a few boot files in the root, and modifies boot.ini for the dual
booting. That's it. It's pretty slick really. I'd suggest backing up
boot.ini, but that is the only part of windows it changes. And just for
the heck of it, I uninstalled it, and boot.ini was replaced with the
original.

One final thing, I had posted that it required a Fat32 format. I was
wrong, because I installed it on a NTFS partition and it worked there
too.

I guess if anyone wants to try linux, this is the one to use. I'm a
complete idiot when it comes to linux, but I find this easy to install,
and fairly easy to operate, as long as I just use the programs in it,
and not try to install other stuff or modify it. The linux command line
is total greeek to me, and seems 25 times more complicated than dos.
But since I have it installed, I can play with it a little at a time and
maybe learn more about it. For example, I tried to install Firefox,
made for linux. That was a real mess. Then I learned that I need to
download files with the .PET extension. With those, you just click on
them and the program is installed. But as I said in another post, I
have no clue where the files is located after it is installed. That's
the puzzler..... But it works...... (So far I only installed Foxit
reader).
 
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Don Phillipson

Yes it is. It is pain in the ass. Instead, consider
running virtual machines. That way you can have them
all running at once and don't have to boot back and forth.

As cheap in time and cash would ben three separate PCs, each
with its own OS, interlinked by wireless, with Remote Desktop
installed. This way each PC could be operated from any terminal.

This would encourage general adoption of NTFS, which appears
much less vulnerable than FAT32 (for Win98) to random cosmic rays.
 
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Mayayana

| > I use BootIt for all partitioning and disk imaging.
|
| I forgot to ask, is Bootit a download, or where do you get it? Is it
| free, shareware or commercial?
|

It's $35. For most things I use free software, but I
don't like to trust anything free for disk management.
I've used BootIt for years with not a single glitch. I
moved to it when my old copy of PM could no longer
handle new OSs. I bought a new version awhile
back -- BootIt BM, which was a major update. The
minor updates are free.

People here have recommended Macrium free. I don't
know anything about that. Other free tools I've seen
don't seem to work properly.
 
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Mayayana

| The BM part stands for Bare Metal. :)
| I've updated to that too, but I can't recall what the major features were
| over the older version NG. Then again, I've only used BootIt in the
| maintenance mode off of a floppy or USB thumb drive (haven't "installed
| it").
|

I don't remember exactly, but I think it was
changes in NTFS for Vista+. Also the boot config
that BootIt enables through the program. XP uses
boot.ini, Vista/7 uses something a bit more complex.
If I remember correctly, I had to get BM for the
NT6 (Vista/7) changes. Maybe also for SATA support,
but I don't exactly remember now.

I don't think the actual booting, disk imaging and
partitioning tools selection has changed much.
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

Bill in Co said:
Mayayana wrote: []
People here have recommended Macrium free. I don't
know anything about that. Other free tools I've seen
don't seem to work properly.

And perhaps Easeus Partition Manager. (at least for managing partitions; not
sure about any boot manager part (if any) since I haven't used that)
OT: +1 for Easeus: IME, for managing partitions on up to and including
Windows 7, it "just works", with no fuss.
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