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kurttrail
Unknown said:Talk about dumb and stupid advice. One of the reasons the update is
still at the manufacturer is because it has NOT been tested and
approved by MS. My advice stands. Don't update unless necessary. Get
your updates from MS after they have been approved. You are a self
anointed spreader of bad advice not moderator. WAKE UP.
ROFL! Please go ahead and use Windows Update to update your video
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kurttrail said:ROFL! Please go ahead and use Windows Update to update your video
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Unknown
I already have and have no problems whatsoever. My video is Nvidia.
U
Unknown
Would you care to give me a known problem and the fix from a manufacturer.
Lets talk facts here not emotional BS. I suppose you even use antivirus
programs??
Lets talk facts here not emotional BS. I suppose you even use antivirus
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Unknown said:I already have and have no problems whatsoever. My video is Nvidia.
ROFL! How does it feel to be a laughingstock?
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wojo
I am not referring to known problems and/or fixes.
I am referring to the fact that the drivers created by Microsoft are, as
Kurt said, generic in nature and not designed for the specific hardware in
most cases. If they ae then they are basically the same as the ones on the
manufacturers website. The manufacturer will have the most updated drivers
available and this should be obvious to anybody who decides to apply a
little logic.
And if your tellng me that I am wrong for using antivirus programs then I
won't even bother to respond to anymore communication you bother to post in
this thread because that is completely ridiculous.
I am referring to the fact that the drivers created by Microsoft are, as
Kurt said, generic in nature and not designed for the specific hardware in
most cases. If they ae then they are basically the same as the ones on the
manufacturers website. The manufacturer will have the most updated drivers
available and this should be obvious to anybody who decides to apply a
little logic.
And if your tellng me that I am wrong for using antivirus programs then I
won't even bother to respond to anymore communication you bother to post in
this thread because that is completely ridiculous.
Unknown said:Would you care to give me a known problem and the fix from a manufacturer.
Lets talk facts here not emotional BS. I suppose you even use antivirus
programs??
wojo said:kurttrail said:Unknown wrote:
Talk about dumb and stupid advice. One of the reasons the update is
still at the manufacturer is because it has NOT been tested and
approved by MS. My advice stands. Don't update unless necessary. Get
your updates from MS after they have been approved. You are a self
anointed spreader of bad advice not moderator. WAKE UP.
ROFL! Please go ahead and use Windows Update to update your video
drivers. You deserve them.
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kurttrail said:ROFL! How does it feel to be a laughingstock?
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We'll take advantage of you & I actually agreeing civily (is that a word?)
Did you read his post to me?
Aparently we're all moron's beause we use AV software!
Laughingstock is right!
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Martin Racette
When the driver exist at Nvidia they are always superior to those from MS, the
MS version is something "lite", i.e.: it's not optimize for full peek
performance, that's why I always use those from Nvidia
BTW. when you use the MS and then upgrade to Nvidia's own, the driver reappear
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MS version is something "lite", i.e.: it's not optimize for full peek
performance, that's why I always use those from Nvidia
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Unknown
They are not 'generic' in nature. They are obtained from the manufacturer.
Microsoft then tests them in as many configurations as possible. They then
become 'signed' drivers.
There are many devices in existance that manufacturers have no intensions of
updating to the XP level. Microsoft in this case keeps those drivers to
support old hardware. Perhaps that is what you are referring to.
And if you tell me you're using virus scanners that is the tipoff that you
have no programming experience and lack in overall computer knowledge.
Ridiculous you say?? Why don't you delete all your virus programs, use common
sense and see how a computer should run. There are far more (magnitudes) of
problems caused by virus detect programs than problems prevented. Once again
you speak with emotion rather than fact.
Microsoft then tests them in as many configurations as possible. They then
become 'signed' drivers.
There are many devices in existance that manufacturers have no intensions of
updating to the XP level. Microsoft in this case keeps those drivers to
support old hardware. Perhaps that is what you are referring to.
And if you tell me you're using virus scanners that is the tipoff that you
have no programming experience and lack in overall computer knowledge.
Ridiculous you say?? Why don't you delete all your virus programs, use common
sense and see how a computer should run. There are far more (magnitudes) of
problems caused by virus detect programs than problems prevented. Once again
you speak with emotion rather than fact.
wojo said:I am not referring to known problems and/or fixes.
I am referring to the fact that the drivers created by Microsoft are, as
Kurt said, generic in nature and not designed for the specific hardware in
most cases. If they ae then they are basically the same as the ones on the
manufacturers website. The manufacturer will have the most updated drivers
available and this should be obvious to anybody who decides to apply a
little logic.
And if your tellng me that I am wrong for using antivirus programs then I
won't even bother to respond to anymore communication you bother to post in
this thread because that is completely ridiculous.
Unknown said:Would you care to give me a known problem and the fix from a manufacturer.
Lets talk facts here not emotional BS. I suppose you even use antivirus
programs??
wojo said:Unknown wrote:
Talk about dumb and stupid advice. One of the reasons the update is
still at the manufacturer is because it has NOT been tested and
approved by MS. My advice stands. Don't update unless necessary. Get
your updates from MS after they have been approved. You are a self
anointed spreader of bad advice not moderator. WAKE UP.
ROFL! Please go ahead and use Windows Update to update your video
drivers. You deserve them.
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Unknown
Unfortunately for you, you merely display your ignorance.
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wojo
I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions
Unknown said:Unfortunately for you, you merely display your ignorance.
U
Unknown
That is very true but, in your posts and post responses you leave the
impression that what you're saying is fact.
impression that what you're saying is fact.
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wojo
ok then what I am saying is my opinion.
Shared opinion yes, but opinion.
Better?
Shared opinion yes, but opinion.
Better?
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
There's a known issue between XP and Creative (Sound Blaster) sound cards,
most notably the SB Live generation of cards, wherein users will receive a
delvdr error when shutting down their computers; the updated drivers from
the Creative website resolve the issue.
There's known issue between Roxio's Easy CD Creator 5 and XP wherein after
installation, upon rebooting the system, users will receive a notice that
the Direct CD component is not compatible with XP and has been disabled.
Updates from the Roxio website resolve the issue.
That's two right there.
To be clear, the drivers at Windows Update are supplied by the device
manufacturer's as is the case for the drivers that ship with XP. Typically,
these drivers are minimalist and don't usually support all the functions of
the device. I'm guessing the reason for this is space on the CD as the
fuller featured versions are typically much larger. Drivers distributed at
Windows Update are the same class of drivers as found on the XP CD but later
versions which might also be included in later versions of the OS.
Some do work just fine but often the drivers at Windows Update are outdated
because not every new iteration of device driver ends up at Windows Update.
Some don't work so well. First, they are not subjected to the same rigorous
testing across the wide install base tested when the OS is in beta. Second,
Sometimes integrated features supported by the drivers direct from the
manufacturer's websites includes code that supports the primary drivers and
when that code is not included, depending upon setup and demands from the
user as in what else is installed that might use the drivers, systems can
become unstable, crash or have other issues as a result.
most notably the SB Live generation of cards, wherein users will receive a
delvdr error when shutting down their computers; the updated drivers from
the Creative website resolve the issue.
There's known issue between Roxio's Easy CD Creator 5 and XP wherein after
installation, upon rebooting the system, users will receive a notice that
the Direct CD component is not compatible with XP and has been disabled.
Updates from the Roxio website resolve the issue.
That's two right there.
To be clear, the drivers at Windows Update are supplied by the device
manufacturer's as is the case for the drivers that ship with XP. Typically,
these drivers are minimalist and don't usually support all the functions of
the device. I'm guessing the reason for this is space on the CD as the
fuller featured versions are typically much larger. Drivers distributed at
Windows Update are the same class of drivers as found on the XP CD but later
versions which might also be included in later versions of the OS.
Some do work just fine but often the drivers at Windows Update are outdated
because not every new iteration of device driver ends up at Windows Update.
Some don't work so well. First, they are not subjected to the same rigorous
testing across the wide install base tested when the OS is in beta. Second,
Sometimes integrated features supported by the drivers direct from the
manufacturer's websites includes code that supports the primary drivers and
when that code is not included, depending upon setup and demands from the
user as in what else is installed that might use the drivers, systems can
become unstable, crash or have other issues as a result.
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kurttrail
Unknown said:That is very true but, in your posts and post responses you leave the
impression that what you're saying is fact.
It's a fact the latest nVidia driver on nVidia's web site, have passed
WHQL testing, and is a newer version than what is being hosted by MS.
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kurttrail
wojo said:kurttrail said:ROFL! Please go ahead and use Windows Update to update your video
drivers. You deserve them.
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wojo
Thank you Michael
However, I notice you chose not to address whether or not AV software should
be used.
Wojo
However, I notice you chose not to address whether or not AV software should
be used.
Wojo
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wojo
kurttrail said:wojo said:kurttrail said:Unknown wrote:
Talk about dumb and stupid advice. One of the reasons the update is
still at the manufacturer is because it has NOT been tested and
approved by MS. My advice stands. Don't update unless necessary. Get
your updates from MS after they have been approved. You are a self
anointed spreader of bad advice not moderator. WAKE UP.
ROFL! Please go ahead and use Windows Update to update your video
drivers. You deserve them.
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My sentiments exactly
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kurttrail
Michael said:There's a known issue between XP and Creative (Sound Blaster) sound
cards, most notably the SB Live generation of cards, wherein users
will receive a delvdr error when shutting down their computers; the
updated drivers from the Creative website resolve the issue.
There's known issue between Roxio's Easy CD Creator 5 and XP wherein
after installation, upon rebooting the system, users will receive a
notice that the Direct CD component is not compatible with XP and has
been disabled. Updates from the Roxio website resolve the issue.
That's two right there.
To be clear, the drivers at Windows Update are supplied by the device
manufacturer's as is the case for the drivers that ship with XP.
Typically, these drivers are minimalist and don't usually support all
the functions of the device. I'm guessing the reason for this is
space on the CD as the fuller featured versions are typically much
larger. Drivers distributed at Windows Update are the same class of
drivers as found on the XP CD but later versions which might also be
included in later versions of the OS.
Some do work just fine but often the drivers at Windows Update are
outdated because not every new iteration of device driver ends up at
Windows Update. Some don't work so well. First, they are not
subjected to the same rigorous testing across the wide install base
tested when the OS is in beta. Second, Sometimes integrated features
supported by the drivers direct from the manufacturer's websites
includes code that supports the primary drivers and when that code is
not included, depending upon setup and demands from the user as in
what else is installed that might use the drivers, systems can become
unstable, crash or have other issues as a result.
A very balanced and fair assestment and explanation about the drivers on
Windows Update.
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