windows mail - bring back outlook express

D

*Darren*

I have been using Windows Vista for a few days now (business edition) and i
hate to say it, but I really miss outlook express.

Windows Mail just isn't the same.

So far:

Windows Mail seems to struggle with IMAP accounts.

*Has crashed everyday whilst checking IMAP folders
*Seems to totally confuse and mess around with deleted messages - In the old
days of outlook express i could delete emails then all i had to do was
"purge".

Now, they get moved to Deleted items folder. This would be fine except that
if I view my IMAP folders with another program or via web mail, the "deleted
items" are still in my inbox.

If i tell windows mail to empty deleted items, they then magically appear in
deleted items in web mail.

what on earth is going on?

Darren
 
L

Lakesidezx

The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
M

mikeyhsd

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
L

Lakesidezx

Thanks, I don't suppose you know any *free* programs that do this as well do ya?

I like free.

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
M

mikeyhsd

Hotmail popper is free.



(e-mail address removed)



Thanks, I don't suppose you know any *free* programs that do this as well do ya?

I like free.

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
L

Lakesidezx

Hotmail popper shows that it will only collect or send up to 100 mails then they want $17.95 to continue using it.


Hotmail popper is free.



(e-mail address removed)



Thanks, I don't suppose you know any *free* programs that do this as well do ya?

I like free.

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
M

mikeyhsd

must be trying the wrong program, the one I use if FREE and is READ only.
http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/



(e-mail address removed)



Hotmail popper shows that it will only collect or send up to 100 mails then they want $17.95 to continue using it.


Hotmail popper is free.



(e-mail address removed)



Thanks, I don't suppose you know any *free* programs that do this as well do ya?

I like free.

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
M

Michal Kawecki

*Darren* said:
I have been using Windows Vista for a few days now (business edition)
and i hate to say it, but I really miss outlook express.

Windows Mail just isn't the same.

So far:

Windows Mail seems to struggle with IMAP accounts.

*Has crashed everyday whilst checking IMAP folders
Click to expand...

I have three very big IMAP accounts and WM never crashed with those. The
only problem I've observed is when I move mails from one folder or
account to another; when this operation take longer than 60 seconds then
WM show me a message "your mailserver do not responded... etc.". But I
still think it is more a problem with my Surgemail mailserver than WM.
*Seems to totally confuse and mess around with deleted messages - In
the old days of outlook express i could delete emails then all i had
to do was "purge".

Now, they get moved to Deleted items folder. This would be fine except
that if I view my IMAP folders with another program or via web mail,
the "deleted items" are still in my inbox.
Click to expand...

You can restore that "old" delete method: go to Options ==> Advanced ==>
IMAP==> Use the "Deleted" folders with IMAP accounts.
If i tell windows mail to empty deleted items, they then magically
appear in deleted items in web mail.

what on earth is going on?
Click to expand...

I think your webmail has it's own message store.
 
M

MICHAEL

<quote>
The trial is fully functional but will expire after you upload and download 100 messages. If
you choose to purchase Hotmail Popper, the cost is $17.50.
</quote>


must be trying the wrong program, the one I use if FREE and is READ only.
http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/



(e-mail address removed)



Hotmail popper shows that it will only collect or send up to 100 mails then they want $17.95
to continue using it.


Hotmail popper is free.



(e-mail address removed)



Thanks, I don't suppose you know any *free* programs that do this as well do ya?

I like free.

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
M

mikeyhsd

so uninstall and reinstall it at that point.



(e-mail address removed)



<quote>
The trial is fully functional but will expire after you upload and download 100 messages. If
you choose to purchase Hotmail Popper, the cost is $17.50.
</quote>


must be trying the wrong program, the one I use if FREE and is READ only.
http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/



(e-mail address removed)



Hotmail popper shows that it will only collect or send up to 100 mails then they want $17.95
to continue using it.


Hotmail popper is free.



(e-mail address removed)



Thanks, I don't suppose you know any *free* programs that do this as well do ya?

I like free.

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
M

MICHAEL

I could care less. You said it was free, it's not.

I tried to use it once, but found it didn't work most of the time.

The way you suggest to make it "free", is stealing.


-Michael

-------------------------
so uninstall and reinstall it at that point.



(e-mail address removed)



<quote>
The trial is fully functional but will expire after you upload and download 100 messages. If
you choose to purchase Hotmail Popper, the cost is $17.50.
</quote>


must be trying the wrong program, the one I use if FREE and is READ only.
http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/



(e-mail address removed)



Hotmail popper shows that it will only collect or send up to 100 mails then they want
$17.95
to continue using it.


Hotmail popper is free.



(e-mail address removed)



Thanks, I don't suppose you know any *free* programs that do this as well do ya?

I like free.

there is a free program called HotPop for retrieving hotmail from within WM.

search for hotmail popper.



(e-mail address removed)



The think I miss most about OE was it's ability to use it for my hotmail
accounts. Apparently Microsoft must want me to go to their hotmail site to
collect my email now so that I can view the adverts instead of letting me
continue to collect my hotmail through the windows mail program.

More than likely I'll probably just lose the hotmail accounts because I
never remember to go to hotmail to check my mail when I've been doing it for
years in outlook express and it's been great that way. I really don't care
for web mail, but since outlook express allowed me to continue to check my
hotmail in it, I kept the accounts.
 
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Michal Kawecki said:
I have three very big IMAP accounts and WM never crashed with those. The
only problem I've observed is when I move mails from one folder or account
to another; when this operation take longer than 60 seconds then WM show
me a message "your mailserver do not responded... etc.". But I still think
it is more a problem with my Surgemail mailserver than WM.


You can restore that "old" delete method: go to Options ==> Advanced ==>
IMAP==> Use the "Deleted" folders with IMAP accounts.
Click to expand...
Yes I can select this option but still not working. I.e if I delete
something inbox -> it will go to deleted items. I have enabled option to
empty deleted messages when exit, but I won't ever get emptied by
automatically in exit. This mail sucks!!
 
M

Michal Kawecki

Juha Jääskeläinen said:
Yes I can select this option but still not working. I.e if I delete
something inbox -> it will go to deleted items. I have enabled option
to empty deleted messages when exit, but I won't ever get emptied by
automatically in exit. This mail sucks!!
Click to expand...

SOA#1.
I don't know why this option do not work for you...
 
S

Steve Cochran

Some have reported you have to empty the deleted items several times and
then it works.

steve
 
G

Guest

How do I retrieve deleted email? I accidently deleted all of my email and
want to retireve it is this possible???
 

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