Windows Defender Beta 2 out

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I just upgraded to it. This uninstalls old MS Antispyware. (It doesn't
tell you though)

I must say its a much better interface, the other one was too
cluttered.
Now supports 64-bit platforms.
I don't think it has a tray icon now.

Also taken away are:
Browser Hijacks
IE Toolbar exploits
Tracks Eraser
Downloaded ActiveX protection
Monitor IE Settings
Hosts File monitoring
Shell Execute Hooks
Browser restore
Cannot download any updates via proxy servers

Interesting

Hmm I wonder if I'm better off now? Scanning now

Why did they remove those useful features I wonder?

Anyone else got some comments

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

Now I have to update on my site

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tf76 said:
I just upgraded to it. This uninstalls old MS Antispyware. (It doesn't
tell you though)

I must say its a much better interface, the other one was too
cluttered. Now supports 64-bit platforms.
I don't think it has a tray icon now.

Also taken away are:
Browser Hijacks
IE Toolbar exploits
Tracks Eraser
Downloaded ActiveX protection
Monitor IE Settings
Hosts File monitoring
Shell Execute Hooks
Browser restore
Cannot download any updates via proxy servers

Interesting
Hmm I wonder if I'm better off now? Scanning now
Why did they remove those useful features I wonder?
Anyone else got some comments

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

Now I have to update on my site
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IMO, there is a clear conflict of interest with Microsoft getting into
the anti-malware business. And rest assured, it's only a matter of time
before any such program by them becomes payware.

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it's only a matter of time
before any such program by them becomes payware.
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No, but this software is upgradable only through "genuine Windows"
control: so, it's good as anti-piracy system.

Simon
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Rather that fix bugs that allow malware to infect your system they will
tell you to download their (possible future shareware) product.
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They *are* fixing bugs. Today I've got a new update. And if you don't like
it, don't download it. Nobody forces you.
 
tf76, 2/15/2006, 12:12:34 AM,
I just upgraded to it. This uninstalls old MS Antispyware. (It doesn't
tell you though)

I must say its a much better interface, the other one was too
cluttered.
Now supports 64-bit platforms.
I don't think it has a tray icon now.

Also taken away are:
Browser Hijacks
IE Toolbar exploits
Tracks Eraser
Downloaded ActiveX protection
Monitor IE Settings
Hosts File monitoring
Shell Execute Hooks
Browser restore
Cannot download any updates via proxy servers

Interesting

Hmm I wonder if I'm better off now? Scanning now

Why did they remove those useful features I wonder?

Anyone else got some comments

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

Now I have to update on my site

tf76
http://www.topfreeware.net
Best Freeware Downloads and tips to optimize your system
Member of The Freeware Revolution
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Beware the new program from Microsoft will identify Symantec Antivirus
products as spyware and disable realtime protection. Our IT Security
identified this problem and reported it to MS and Symantec. Currently
there is no fix for it. If you use Symantec/Norton antivirus keep a
close eye on the real-time status.
 
tf76, 2/15/2006, 12:12:34 AM,


Beware the new program from Microsoft will identify Symantec Antivirus
products as spyware and disable realtime protection. Our IT Security
identified this problem and reported it to MS and Symantec. Currently
there is no fix for it. If you use Symantec/Norton antivirus keep a
close eye on the real-time status.
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Sounds like a good idea. Get rid of Symantec bloatware.
 
I just upgraded to it. This uninstalls old MS Antispyware. (It doesn't
tell you though)

I must say its a much better interface, the other one was too
cluttered. Now supports 64-bit platforms. I don't think it has a tray icon now.

Also taken away are:
Browser Hijacks, IE Toolbar exploits, Tracks Eraser
Downloaded ActiveX protection, Monitor IE Settings
Hosts File monitoring, Shell Execute Hooks
Browser restore, Cannot download any updates via proxy servers

Interesting

Hmm I wonder if I'm better off now? Scanning now
Why did they remove those useful features I wonder?
Anyone else got some comments

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
Click to expand...

So, an inferior product to MS AntiSpyware. I run the old program today
and was not told to update (on the webpage it says it would
automatically to so).

The question remains: For how long will updated and new definitions be
available for MS AntiSpyware (the old program)...

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For how long will updated and new definitions be available for MS
AntiSpyware (the old program)...
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Don't know if this still has any bearing, in light of the release by MS of
the replacement Defender, but my copy of MS Antispyware says: "This version
.... expires in 166 days;... expires on July 31, 2006." Juzme
 
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:22:49 -0800 in alt.comp.freeware, John
Corliss said:
IMO, there is a clear conflict of interest with Microsoft getting into
the anti-malware business.
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How can you possibly say that? That would be like saying that an
abused woman shouldn't go back to the husband that beat her up.
 
I just upgraded to it. This uninstalls old MS Antispyware. (It doesn't
tell you though)
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The MS web site tells you that it will uninstall AntiSpyware beta 1. What it
doesn't tell you anywhere is that you have to install GDI+ if you don't have
it on your computer. I didn't have it on my win2k system, so Defender
wouldn't install until I installed it. Had to do some searching on the MS
site. Downloaded the GDI+ package, extracted the gdiplus.dll file, and moved
it into the system32 directory, because there were no instructions on where
it should go, other than into the programs directory that needed to use it,
but wouldn't install until GDI+ was installed. DOH
 
They *are* fixing bugs. Today I've got a new update. And if you don't like
it, don't download it. Nobody forces you.
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Never did when it was MS Antispyware and have no plans to now.

Not only has it always been in beta mode but MS Anti ignored Claria (Gator)
because they were thinking about buying the company.

http://netrn.net/spywareblog/archives/2005/07/08/ms-antispyware-ignores-more-adware/

Another reason why there is a conflict of interest.

If you wish to trust your systems security to a company well known for its
buggy OS's, programs and dodgy business practices then go ahead.
 
The MS web site tells you that it will uninstall AntiSpyware beta 1. What
it
doesn't tell you anywhere is that you have to install GDI+ if you don't
have
it on your computer. I didn't have it on my win2k system, so Defender
wouldn't install until I installed it. Had to do some searching on the MS
site. Downloaded the GDI+ package, extracted the gdiplus.dll file, and
moved
it into the system32 directory, because there were no instructions on
where
it should go, other than into the programs directory that needed to use
it,
but wouldn't install until GDI+ was installed. DOH

--
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my 2000sp4 system says I need to install "2000 security prerequisite pack"
where do I get this ?

Peter
 
L.M said:
Why?
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*groan*

1. They make the OS
2. They KNOW the OS
3. They could use that knowledge to create very effective malware and
release it into the wild
4. They would sell the cure.

AKA a "protection" racket.

Note that this is, of course, all speculation. Of course, Microsoft is
always totally honest with everybody and NEVER has any hidden agendas.

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc, for instance. No
adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez for me, please.
 
L.M said:
They *are* fixing bugs. Today I've got a new update. And if you don't like
it, don't download it. Nobody forces you.
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Your answer is unnecessarily defensive and aggressive. You asked a
question and John provided a possible scenario that is a relevant
answer. Chill out.

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc, for instance. No
adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez for me, please.
 
John Corliss, 2/16/2006, 8:41:33 AM,
Note that this is, of course, all speculation. Of course, Microsoft
is always totally honest with everybody and NEVER has any hidden
agendas.
Click to expand...

It's good to see you are finally admitting the truth...
 
Simone said:
No,
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I don't think you really have any way of being able to predict that this
will absolutely be the case.
but this software is upgradable only through "genuine Windows"
control: so, it's good as anti-piracy system.
Click to expand...

That it can serve as an anti-piracy system is an excellent point. And it
still means that there is a conflict of interest.

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc, for instance. No
adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez for me, please.
 
badgolferman said:
It's good to see you are finally admitting the truth...
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You betcha!

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc, for instance. No
adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez for me, please.
 
John Corliss said:
1. They make the OS
2. They KNOW the OS
3. They could use that knowledge to create very effective malware and
release it into the wild
4. They would sell the cure.
Click to expand...


Oh and they are researching on nuclear power to destroy the visible side of
the moon. :-S

Oh well...
 
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