Windows Defender and Norton Internet Security


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Guest

I have had problems using Norton Internet Security (NIS) and it has disabled
Windows Defender. Why? I thought having more than one Spyware program
running was OK. Defender is not an antiviris program as far as I know, so
why are they not compatible? Also, I'm thinking of changing my antivirus
program to McAfee. Will I be able to use Windows Defender with that program?
 
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Guest

Hello Martin,

You could try this:

Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and choose
Run as Administrator.

Type (or Copy and Paste) the following command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

Press Enter.

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

Press Enter.

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands to
the services causing it to fail, saying, "A stop control has been sent to a
service that other running services are dependent on").

It might take a couple minutes for the services to shut down.

Run the last command again.

You may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its
own.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.
- - ---

FAME
How prudently we proud men compete for nameless .graves, while
now and then some starveling of Fate forgets himself into
immortality. —Wendell Phillips
 
G

Guest

Thanks for info, but I have already managed to unblock Defender. It is
running again. What I really wanted to know is - normally does Windows
Defender run OK with Norton Internet Security? Also will Defender run with
McAfee Security? I understood that it IS OK to have several spyware programs
running (but not antivirus), so why does Norton tell me they are not
compatible?
 
G

Guest

Reply for Engel.
First thanks for helpful info. Because of alot of trouble I've had with
Norton Internet Security with Defender, I'm thinking of uninstalling Norton
and using mostly free applications. I still want to use Windows Defender
(real time application?).
Could you tell me please (or I would value anyone's legitimate and
trustworthy comments) how this list of Antivirus (A-V) and Antispyware (A-S)
list looks, using Windows Defender too.
A-V APPLICATIONS.
*'Real time' A-V
-AVG antivrus free edition (don't know if it includes a firewall, or best
to use microsoft's firewall) Is this 'real time'?
*'On Demand' A-V
-BitDefender10 free edition
A-S APPLICATIONS (using Windows Defender)
*'Real time'
-Windows Defender
*'On Demand' A-S
-Adaware se personal
-Spybot S & D
-Spyware Doctor (PC Tools) [already installed] 'On demand' ?
-SpyBlaster (if needed)
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and replies to my queries
Martin
 
G

Guest

Hi Martin,

A-V APPLICATIONS.
*'Real time' A-V
-AVG antivrus free edition (don't know if it includes a firewall, or best
to use microsoft's firewall) Is this 'real time'?

Windows firewall is OK

I don't have any experience with AVG a.k.a. Ewido as a permanent AV, I uso
Ewido online scan once a week.
Robinb, she is the one with a lot experience with AVG, look for her in the
General NG.
To view these posts type Robinb or AVG in the `Search for` box, select the
appropriate Newsgroup from the drop down menu and select Go.


*'On Demand' A-V
-BitDefender10 free edition

No experience with BitDefender10



A-S APPLICATIONS (using Windows Defender)

*'Real time'
-Windows Defender

OK


*'On Demand' A-S

-Adaware se personal http://www.lavasoftusa.com

OK
'Use custom scanning options' and leaving things checked nets a far more
comprehensive scan than the default 'Smart system scan' choice.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial48.html
- -
http://www.lavasoft.com/support/securitycenter/blog/



-Spybot S & D http://www.safer-networking.org/
I would suggest staying on the side of caution... Make certain to not to
select any of the pernament protection for Spybot, as this can interfere with
WD Real-tme Protectiºn and other programs
I sugesst don't use the Tea Timer
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial43.html
- --
http://www.download.com/Destroy-spyware-using-Spybot/1200-2023-5144545.html?tag=txt
- --


-Spyware Doctor (PC Tools) [already installed] 'On demand' ?

No experience



-SpyBlaster (if needed) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html

No problem, installed
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial49.html
- --
The exact URL for Javacool software support at Wilders is below;
<http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19 >
- --
SpywareBlaster will block bad ActiveX and harmful cookies from getting on to
your PC in the first place. Just download and install the program. Open
SpywareBlaster, check for and download updates, then 'select all' to protect
against all items checked. That's it! Just return to check for updates every
couple of weeks.
SpywareBlaster prevents the installation of malwares onto your system.
SpywareBlaster is a tool that is run once, vs continual running in the
background. Its working principle can be described as follows: many spyware
and hijackers make certain registry entries and are identified by CLSIDs.
SpywareBlaster has a database of these bad CLSIDs. When you run
SpywareBlaster once, it sets the kill bit of the bad CLSID as "1". This means
the specific CLSID is killed, or not allowed to register, preventing
installation of the spyware.
Usualy JJ post the updates on the Announcements NG



I sugesst to install WinPatrol - http://www.winpatrol.com
Although not an anti-spyware or anti-virus software, WinPatrol runs in your
system tray to monitor any changes that spyware or malware can install or run
while you’re surfing the internet, especially if you’re running Internet
Explorer.


I sugesst to install Siteadvisor (Free)
http://www.siteadvisor.com/preview/
Working on the principle that prevention is better than cure.

I quote Stu--a regular contributor here:
There is an excellent BHO available - `McAfee Site Advisor
` which will give you fair warning when you are about to visit a dangerous
site. When you search Google/MSN/Yahoo all links are highlighted in a colour
code according to danger levels. If you see red for example - don`t even go
there. If, on the otherhand, you are just surfing the unobtrusive button will
give you fair warning by changing to the appropriate colour. There is also a
reporting mechanism of dubious sites which are then investigated and added to
the database. BTW its free and I have no finacial interest;)
Stu



TrendProtect
http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US/free_security_tools/trendprotect.php
Similar to Siteadvisor.
I sugesst to install only one.


SuperAntiSpyware (Free)
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html
Install and use in demand only (No resident (RTP) )
Robinb can tell you about this program.
Feel free to mention my name ;-)



Removing your Norton program using SymNRT
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&src=&docid=2004020909040706&nsf=tsgeninfo.nsf&view=docid&dtype=∏=&ver=&osv=&osv_lvl=&seg

I hope this thoughts can help you

Please rate the post.
- -- --
PS
If you are planing installing 2 or more programs listed above, instal one
every 2 o 4 dias apart, so you can feel your PC reaction.
As a insurence, always make a restore point before any instalation
- --


FAMILY
Never praise a sister to a sister, in the hope of your compliments reaching
the proper ears. —Kipling





Martin said:
Reply for Engel.
First thanks for helpful info. Because of alot of trouble I've had with
Norton Internet Security with Defender, I'm thinking of uninstalling Norton
and using mostly free applications. I still want to use Windows Defender
(real time application?).
Could you tell me please (or I would value anyone's legitimate and
trustworthy comments) how this list of Antivirus (A-V) and Antispyware (A-S)
list looks, using Windows Defender too.
A-V APPLICATIONS.
*'Real time' A-V
-AVG antivrus free edition (don't know if it includes a firewall, or best
to use microsoft's firewall) Is this 'real time'?
*'On Demand' A-V
-BitDefender10 free edition
A-S APPLICATIONS (using Windows Defender)
*'Real time'
-Windows Defender
*'On Demand' A-S
-Adaware se personal
-Spybot S & D
-Spyware Doctor (PC Tools) [already installed] 'On demand' ?
-SpyBlaster (if needed)
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and replies to my queries
Martin


--
Martin


Engel said:
Hello Martin,

You could try this:

Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and choose
Run as Administrator.

Type (or Copy and Paste) the following command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

Press Enter.

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

Press Enter.

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands to
the services causing it to fail, saying, "A stop control has been sent to a
service that other running services are dependent on").

It might take a couple minutes for the services to shut down.

Run the last command again.

You may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its
own.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.
- - ---

FAME
How prudently we proud men compete for nameless .graves, while
now and then some starveling of Fate forgets himself into
immortality. —Wendell Phillips
 
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G

Guest

Reply for Engel
Thanks again for your very comprehensive reply! Being a novice, there is one
thing I forgot to ask. If I install one 'real time' antivirus application I
assume this is running all the time. So then if I run an 'on demand'
application (say once a week) won't this conflict with the 'real time'
application that is running??????? The same for antispyware. Will I have to
disable the 'real time' application first?
Thanks again for your helpful reply.
--
Martin


Engel said:
Hi Martin,

A-V APPLICATIONS.
*'Real time' A-V
-AVG antivrus free edition (don't know if it includes a firewall, or best
to use microsoft's firewall) Is this 'real time'?

Windows firewall is OK

I don't have any experience with AVG a.k.a. Ewido as a permanent AV, I uso
Ewido online scan once a week.
Robinb, she is the one with a lot experience with AVG, look for her in the
General NG.
To view these posts type Robinb or AVG in the `Search for` box, select the
appropriate Newsgroup from the drop down menu and select Go.


*'On Demand' A-V
-BitDefender10 free edition

No experience with BitDefender10



A-S APPLICATIONS (using Windows Defender)

*'Real time'
-Windows Defender

OK


*'On Demand' A-S

-Adaware se personal http://www.lavasoftusa.com

OK
'Use custom scanning options' and leaving things checked nets a far more
comprehensive scan than the default 'Smart system scan' choice.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial48.html
- -
http://www.lavasoft.com/support/securitycenter/blog/



-Spybot S & D http://www.safer-networking.org/
I would suggest staying on the side of caution... Make certain to not to
select any of the pernament protection for Spybot, as this can interfere with
WD Real-tme Protectiºn and other programs
I sugesst don't use the Tea Timer
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial43.html
- --
http://www.download.com/Destroy-spyware-using-Spybot/1200-2023-5144545.html?tag=txt
- --


-Spyware Doctor (PC Tools) [already installed] 'On demand' ?

No experience



-SpyBlaster (if needed) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html

No problem, installed
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial49.html
- --
The exact URL for Javacool software support at Wilders is below;
<http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19 >
- --
SpywareBlaster will block bad ActiveX and harmful cookies from getting on to
your PC in the first place. Just download and install the program. Open
SpywareBlaster, check for and download updates, then 'select all' to protect
against all items checked. That's it! Just return to check for updates every
couple of weeks.
SpywareBlaster prevents the installation of malwares onto your system.
SpywareBlaster is a tool that is run once, vs continual running in the
background. Its working principle can be described as follows: many spyware
and hijackers make certain registry entries and are identified by CLSIDs.
SpywareBlaster has a database of these bad CLSIDs. When you run
SpywareBlaster once, it sets the kill bit of the bad CLSID as "1". This means
the specific CLSID is killed, or not allowed to register, preventing
installation of the spyware.
Usualy JJ post the updates on the Announcements NG



I sugesst to install WinPatrol - http://www.winpatrol.com
Although not an anti-spyware or anti-virus software, WinPatrol runs in your
system tray to monitor any changes that spyware or malware can install or run
while you’re surfing the internet, especially if you’re running Internet
Explorer.


I sugesst to install Siteadvisor (Free)
http://www.siteadvisor.com/preview/
Working on the principle that prevention is better than cure.

I quote Stu--a regular contributor here:
There is an excellent BHO available - `McAfee Site Advisor
` which will give you fair warning when you are about to visit a dangerous
site. When you search Google/MSN/Yahoo all links are highlighted in a colour
code according to danger levels. If you see red for example - don`t even go
there. If, on the otherhand, you are just surfing the unobtrusive button will
give you fair warning by changing to the appropriate colour. There is also a
reporting mechanism of dubious sites which are then investigated and added to
the database. BTW its free and I have no finacial interest;)
Stu



TrendProtect
http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US/free_security_tools/trendprotect.php
Similar to Siteadvisor.
I sugesst to install only one.


SuperAntiSpyware (Free)
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html
Install and use in demand only (No resident (RTP) )
Robinb can tell you about this program.
Feel free to mention my name ;-)



Removing your Norton program using SymNRT
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&src=&docid=2004020909040706&nsf=tsgeninfo.nsf&view=docid&dtype=∏=&ver=&osv=&osv_lvl=&seg

I hope this thoughts can help you

Please rate the post.
- -- --
PS
If you are planing installing 2 or more programs listed above, instal one
every 2 o 4 dias apart, so you can feel your PC reaction.
As a insurence, always make a restore point before any instalation
- --


FAMILY
Never praise a sister to a sister, in the hope of your compliments reaching
the proper ears. —Kipling





Martin said:
Reply for Engel.
First thanks for helpful info. Because of alot of trouble I've had with
Norton Internet Security with Defender, I'm thinking of uninstalling Norton
and using mostly free applications. I still want to use Windows Defender
(real time application?).
Could you tell me please (or I would value anyone's legitimate and
trustworthy comments) how this list of Antivirus (A-V) and Antispyware (A-S)
list looks, using Windows Defender too.
A-V APPLICATIONS.
*'Real time' A-V
-AVG antivrus free edition (don't know if it includes a firewall, or best
to use microsoft's firewall) Is this 'real time'?
*'On Demand' A-V
-BitDefender10 free edition
A-S APPLICATIONS (using Windows Defender)
*'Real time'
-Windows Defender
*'On Demand' A-S
-Adaware se personal
-Spybot S & D
-Spyware Doctor (PC Tools) [already installed] 'On demand' ?
-SpyBlaster (if needed)
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and replies to my queries
Martin


--
Martin


Engel said:
Hello Martin,

You could try this:

Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and choose
Run as Administrator.

Type (or Copy and Paste) the following command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

Press Enter.

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

Press Enter.

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands to
the services causing it to fail, saying, "A stop control has been sent to a
service that other running services are dependent on").

It might take a couple minutes for the services to shut down.

Run the last command again.

You may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its
own.

I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.
- - ---

FAME
How prudently we proud men compete for nameless .graves, while
now and then some starveling of Fate forgets himself into
immortality. —Wendell Phillips





:

I have had problems using Norton Internet Security (NIS) and it has disabled
Windows Defender. Why? I thought having more than one Spyware program
running was OK. Defender is not an antiviris program as far as I know, so
why are they not compatible? Also, I'm thinking of changing my antivirus
program to McAfee. Will I be able to use Windows Defender with that program?
 
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