Will Remote Desktop do this?

[micky]

Inasmuch as any remote system requires you to permit it, yes.

So you'd need to see it. I'm not sure if, if you leave a Teamviewer
session open on the basement computer but keep turning the netbook off,
the password changes - I suspect it would, for security reasons.

Note that (for TeamViewer) you need the full (though still free)
software on the upstairs computer, but only the cut-down one -
http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe - on the basement
one. (Yes, I've got that the right way round.)

This part confused me. I had heard about this program years ago and
checked it out a little, without installing, but I'd forgotten it.

So thanks again to all who reminded me.

This time, maybe because I lost interest in QuickSupport (because it
said you had to give the password for every session) there was only
one program to download to each computer. IIUC

So I did, and each needed a number from the other, so I had the
computers next to each ot her and went one step at a time, alternating
computers. . Apparently I gave the right to contol A from B and B
from A, and all of a sudden there was a square in a square in a square
gettting progressively smaller until it was a square duct reaching
deep to he bottom of the monitor.

So I clicked off one session, and either it was good again or the
whole thing ended. I think the latter. If the latter, I used the
remote computer and said I wanted in, and I was in.

And it worked great.

I minimimized all the other programs and even the desktop went away,
turned to black. I coudl see a lot of the desktop because the Remote
is wide-screen and the Host is 3:4.

Again, the resolution on the Acer, 3 or 4 years old now, is great and
I could read everything. Even in Size to Fit mode, which was the
default.

However I didn't have the external keyboard connected, and even the
mouse was a problem. This is my friend's netbook, used only when he
travels (because he uses a Mac at home but couldn't afford a
lightweight Mac) and I think I bought him a mouse the night before he
was lleaving on a trip. A travel mouse, but it's only 1/2 inch
shorter than a Dell full-size mouse and the other two dimensions are
about the same. And the left key is very had to press. So I have to
find my bag of mouses, and change his mouse. And I found my USB
keyboard, but haven't used it.

It seems much better than Remote Assistance (Glee, see my reply to
your post) , which wouldn't pass through certain keyboard keys (cntl?,
alt?) and which squished the image.

In fact when I went to Hibernate the netbook, I hibernated the Host
instead! So I had dinner upstairs and warmed up.

I've used TeamViewer here (XP netbook) to help people with XP, Vista,
and 7.
[]
Thanks for coming back to us all and telling us how you're getting on.

Sure. Some webpage said and I repeated that it went bck to win95 --
maybe it doesn't but who cares --, but I did find, at oldapps.com, the
latest version that works with win98 and 2000. Whoever raised the
point that it might not have all the features is surely right. It
probably takes time to make this as good as it is. But I can perhaps
install the 2000 version on the XP netbook and see how it does.

Might that old version work better with the XP OS on the netbook than
with 2000 OS on a laptop I have yet to buy?


As I said, I'm still in a little pain and getting over 14 days of pain
caused by a bladder cystoscopy/biopsy and a bladder stone
laser-zapping** (2 procedures) so sometimes my computer progress is
slow. Plus I'm behind on everything else.

**I might not have had the stone, caused by slow and partial
urination, if I had been more diligent in going to the doctor, when I
first had symptoms. .

 

[Ken Springer]

Might that old version work better with the XP OS on the netbook than
with 2000 OS on a laptop I have yet to buy?

I don't know the answer to that, but an alternative might be a high end
old laptop, and install XP.

--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.6.8
Firefox 12.0
Thunderbird 12.0.1
LibreOffice 3.5.2.2

 

[glee]

snip
It seems much better than Remote Assistance (Glee, see my reply to
your post) , which wouldn't pass through certain keyboard keys (cntl?,
alt?) and which squished the image.
snip

I said in at least 3 posts NOT to use XP Remote Assistance, to use XP
Remote Desktop... they are completely different things... but it seems
to have fallen on deaf ears, you are still referring to Remote
Assistance.

You seem to have gotten what you want through TeamViewer, and I seem to
have wasted a lot of my time.

 

[micky]

Hello.... why are you using Remote Assistance? Re-read my last
reply.... I told you Remote Desktop is what you have to use for this,
NOT Remote Assistance.

Yeah, what happened is that I went to Help and Support and put in
Remote something, (but not assistence) and the only thing that came up
was Remote Assistance, and somehow I began to think that that was what
I'd been looking for.

I had put in Remote Keyboard and I tried to Add select users, but I
got stymied with that. The next time I searched Help, I got Remote
Assistence and I ran with it. My short-term memory seems to be
failing in the last 5 years, since I was 60, because I can't remember
all the details of what I did.

Remote Assistance is not for what you want to
do, at all. Use Remote Desktop connection. It should be on your Start
Okay.

menu at Start> All Programs> Accessories> Remote Desktop Connection....

Yeah, that was one of the confusing screens I had found yesterday or
the day before, because when I found it, I couldnt' figure out how to
fill in the box.

OR, click Start> Run, type: MSTSC and click OK. You MUST be running XP
Professional, NOT XP Home Edition, on the computer you want to access
(the one in the basement). You can access it with Remote Desktop from
either an XP Home or an XP Pro computer, but the computer you want to
access must be running XP Pro.

That turns out to be true if I want to start at the Remote computer
(which I do) but it turned out that even with XP Home, I coudl start
at the Host and sent the invitation, then go back and forth two times
each, and then it worked!!! Not as well as TeamViewer has today (I
read your post early today) but enough to convince me that it must be
a different name for the same thing! I can't help it if I'm easily
confused. :-(

How to use the Remote Desktop feature of Windows XP Professional
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315328

http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/remote-desktop-connection-windows-xp-home-t3802909.html

What you are using now, Remote Assistance, is a totally different
application for a different use than what you need. If you don't have
XP Professional on the basement computer you are trying to access, stop
wasting your time with Remote Assistance, and install TeamViewer.

Okay.

Thanks.

 

[Char Jackson]

I said in at least 3 posts NOT to use XP Remote Assistance, to use XP
Remote Desktop... they are completely different things... but it seems
to have fallen on deaf ears, you are still referring to Remote
Assistance.

You seem to have gotten what you want through TeamViewer, and I seem to
have wasted a lot of my time.

Amazing, isn't it?

I enjoyed your repeated attempts to get him on the right track and
marveled at his ability to selectively ignore your advice.

 

[micky]

I _think_ it's the speed of the internet connection that matters. I've
not tried to watch movies remotely - I don't think that would work well
- but otherwise, I don't think the controlling computer has to be that
fast.

Getting late -- no time to reply to the posts which follow this one --
but I wanted to say that I hadn't planned to watch movies this way. I
plan to watch them, on rare occasions, on TV from a computer output. .
I had this working for 6 months but never watched one.

So with TeamViewer, I only plan to read emails and newsgrroup posts
and reply to a few of them and to browse the web. And maybe
download. But downloading even a big file won't send much data from
the Host to the Remote. Nothing like watching a movie.


Eventually summer will be over or I will fix my air conditioning, and
I will move the computer to the 2nd floor.

I have a video card with two outputs, and a pair of whatchamacallits
(baluns, I think) that enable me to use a CAT-5 or 6 cable to connect
video and audio output from the computer to the inputs to my DVDR,
which goes to the 5 TV in my house, all of them over 15 years old.
(If the tv and computer were closer I could just use regular Audio and
Video cables, no baluns, but it's about 40 feet as the crow flies, and
more to go down to the floor or up the attic.)

I plan to get some sort of RF keyboard/mouseball to control the
computer, relaying the output via Powermid, which I use now with great
success to relay the DVDR remote control commands to the DVDR. This
is all over the air. I have no cable, and it's hard to find a DVDR
with harddrive for myself. There is nothing between 150 dollars and
600 dollars, and the 150 dollar one has many flaws. But I'm used to
them. (Of course even with cable/satellite, iiiuc there's not a big
selection of dvdr/hard-drive, but maybe they are better than mine.

I say I use Powermid with great success, but that was only aftter I
put an on/off switch in for one transmitter out of 5r, which kept
turning on and sending RF to the Powermid receiver, which overloaded
the DVDR and made it refuse to accept commands that I was trying to
send.. This bad transmitter (two of them in a row) turned on even
when it was dark out and there were no lights in the room or any other
source of IR that I could find**. . I have 4 other transmitters in
the office, the kitchen, the basement, and the big bathroom, that
don't turn on for no good reason, but I've tried two of them in
another room and they do. I have to try a third one when I have time.

I hope this wasn't two confused.


**I know what I should have done.... used my digital camera to look
for stray IR. IIRC, IR will show up in the viewfinder/screen. Ill
try to do that this week. Home technology is so complicated. I sort
of long for the days when all there was was a radio and a tv.

 

[micky]

Hello.... why are you using Remote Assistance? Re-read my last
reply.... I told you Remote Desktop is what you have to use for this,
NOT Remote Assistance.

Yeah, what happened is that I went to Help and Support and put in
Remote something, (but not assistence) and the only thing that came up
was Remote Assistance, and somehow I began to think that that was what
I'd been looking for.

I had put in Remote Keyboard and I tried to Add select users, but I
got stymied with that. The next time I searched Help, I got Remote
Assistence and I ran with it. My short-term memory seems to be
failing in the last 5 years, since I was 60, because I can't remember
all the details of what I did.

Remote Assistance is not for what you want to
do, at all. Use Remote Desktop connection. It should be on your Start
Okay.

menu at Start> All Programs> Accessories> Remote Desktop Connection....

Yeah, that was one of the confusing screens I had found yesterday or
the day before, because when I found it, I couldnt' figure out how to
fill in the box.

OR, click Start> Run, type: MSTSC and click OK. You MUST be running XP
Professional, NOT XP Home Edition, on the computer you want to access
(the one in the basement). You can access it with Remote Desktop from
either an XP Home or an XP Pro computer, but the computer you want to
access must be running XP Pro.

That turns out to be true if I want to start at the Remote computer
(which I do) but it turned out that even with XP Home, I coudl start
at the Host and sent the invitation, then go back and forth two times
each, and then it worked!!! Not as well as TeamViewer has today (I
read your post early today) but enough to convince me that it must be
a different name for the same thing! I can't help it if I'm easily
confused. :-(

How to use the Remote Desktop feature of Windows XP Professional
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315328

http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/remote-desktop-connection-windows-xp-home-t3802909.html

What you are using now, Remote Assistance, is a totally different
application for a different use than what you need. If you don't have
XP Professional on the basement computer you are trying to access, stop
wasting your time with Remote Assistance, and install TeamViewer.

Okay.

Thanks.

 

[glee]

Amazing, isn't it?

I enjoyed your repeated attempts to get him on the right track and
marveled at his ability to selectively ignore your advice.

Well, he's since posted that he had some trouble with remembering stuff,
so now I feel bad. Oh well...

 

[micky]

/////On Tue, 1 May 2012 23:41:12 -0400, "glee"

I said in at least 3 posts NOT to use XP Remote Assistance, to use XP
Remote Desktop... they are completely different things... but it seems
to have fallen on deaf ears, you are still referring to Remote
Assistance.

No, your words didn't fall on deaf ears. I only referred to Remote
assistance above because it was all I had to compare TeamViewer with.
I wasn't going to be using RA anymore once you explained that it
wasn't Remote Keyboard. **

You seem to have gotten what you want through TeamViewer, and I seem to
have wasted a lot of my time.

No, you didn't waste your time.. I replied to JPG because his post
came first with something that needed a reply, and you'll see that by
the time I got to reply to you, I was mostly explaining myself and not
giving progress updates

I appreciate all your help, but I was alone for hours with no new
advice, and somehow I got led by Help down the lane to RA. Just
once. Then i reported it and all your 3 posts not to use RA came
after that. And I haven't used it since.

I appreciate all your help. Thanks.

 

[micky]

/////On Tue, 1 May 2012 23:41:12 -0400, "glee"


No, your words didn't fall on deaf ears. I only referred to Remote
assistance above because it was all I had to compare TeamViewer with.
I wasn't going to be using RA anymore once you explained that it
wasn't Remote Keyboard. **


No, you didn't waste your time.. I replied to JPG because his post
came first with something that needed a reply, and you'll see that by
the time I got to reply to you, I was mostly explaining myself and not
giving progress updates

I appreciate all your help, but I was alone for hours with no new
advice,

BTW, this was not a complaint that I had no new advice. I had no new
advice because I hadn't given any progress reports. And I *am*
supposed to do most of this myself.

Micky

 

[Char Jackson]

Well, he's since posted that he had some trouble with remembering stuff,
so now I feel bad. Oh well...

I see that now, too, but it was still fun while it lasted.

 

[glee]

BTW, this was not a complaint that I had no new advice. I had no new
advice because I hadn't given any progress reports. And I *am*
supposed to do most of this myself.

Micky

Got it.... sorry, I didn't mean to sound so crabby (even though I am).

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per J. P. Gilliver (John):

Sounds good! Do you have a very fast internet connection and powerful
PC?

I have Verizon's most el-cheapo FIOS. Lightning-fast compared
to my #1 daughter's DSL hookup, but slow as death compared to my
neighbor's high-end FIOS.

PC is a GigaByte EP45-UD3L mobo with an Intel Q8400 CPU @2.66
GHz. Dunno about "powerful", but it's a *lot* faster than my
little Atom-powered 1.6 GHz netbook.

OTOH, TeamViewer runs just about as fast on the netbook - as it
does on my iPod.... so go figure....

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per (PeteCresswell):

Dunno about Android, but my guess would be that there's a version
for that too.

Yup. Just sucked it up and bought my first Android smart phone.
TeamViewer works like a charm on it.

You can even go from a PC to the Android device... although I
can't think of any reason I'd want to do that... still... pretty
slick.