Which Inkjet printer to buy?

[Dave]

Dear all

I wonder if I could possibly trouble you for some advice? I want to buy an
A4 inkjet printer. My budget is up to around £100. I would mainly use it for
printing DVD/CDr's, photos and regular general printing of docs. I
therefore would like a CD printing facility but also dont want to spend a
fortune on ink cartidges.

Can anyone suggest good all round printer which would fit the bill? I have
been looking at the Epson photo R200.

Thanks

Dave

 

[Tony]

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Dear all

I wonder if I could possibly trouble you for some advice? I want to buy an
A4 inkjet printer. My budget is up to around £100. I would mainly use it for
printing DVD/CDr's, photos and regular general printing of docs. I
therefore would like a CD printing facility but also dont want to spend a
fortune on ink cartidges.

Can anyone suggest good all round printer which would fit the bill? I have
been looking at the Epson photo R200.

Thanks

Dave

The latest Canon range comes to mind as both our USA and UK customers are
all extolling their virtues. They do have that advantage of consistent ink
tanks using the BCI-e3 and BCI-6 and judging by the satisfaction rating
amongst our customers the total cost of ownership (Printer and 2 years ink)
is probably better than Epson.

http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/printers/bubble_jet/index.asp
Tony

Inkylink JetTec UK/USA Quality - Wot others wanna-be
http://www.inkylinkusa.com/inkylinkusa.shtml UPS from Las Vegas
http://www.inkylink.co.uk UK recorded post next day
The home of the 30% more JetTec ink reset chip

 

[puss]

Dear all

I wonder if I could possibly trouble you for some advice? I want to buy an
A4 inkjet printer. My budget is up to around £100. I would mainly use it for
printing DVD/CDr's, photos and regular general printing of docs. I
therefore would like a CD printing facility but also dont want to spend a
fortune on ink cartidges.

Can anyone suggest good all round printer which would fit the bill? I have
been looking at the Epson photo R200.

Thanks

Dave

Yes a great printer for its price, and nothing else to touch it..


And you can get those cheap Ink Tec, Ink tanks made in the UK for it.

You just can't loose..

 

[puss]

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The latest Canon range comes to mind as both our USA and UK customers are
all extolling their virtues. They do have that advantage of consistent ink
tanks using the BCI-e3 and BCI-6 and judging by the satisfaction rating
amongst our customers the total cost of ownership (Printer and 2 years ink)
is probably better than Epson.

http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/printers/bubble_jet/index.asp
Tony

Inkylink JetTec UK/USA Quality - Wot others wanna-be
http://www.inkylinkusa.com/inkylinkusa.shtml UPS from Las Vegas
http://www.inkylink.co.uk UK recorded post next day
The home of the 30% more JetTec ink reset chip

But at what Price here the nearest Canon to do CD Printing is some $200 dearer
than the Epson and only has 4 Colours..

Plus Canon print heads do Rot away as its a Bubble Jet..

 

[puss]

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The latest Canon range comes to mind as both our USA and UK customers are
all extolling their virtues. They do have that advantage of consistent ink
tanks using the BCI-e3 and BCI-6 and judging by the satisfaction rating
amongst our customers the total cost of ownership (Printer and 2 years ink)
is probably better than Epson.

http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/printers/bubble_jet/index.asp
Tony

Inkylink JetTec UK/USA Quality - Wot others wanna-be
http://www.inkylinkusa.com/inkylinkusa.shtml UPS from Las Vegas
http://www.inkylink.co.uk UK recorded post next day
The home of the 30% more JetTec ink reset chip

The Nearest New Canon is the PIXMA iP4000, but its still only a 3 colour
printer, 3 colours and 2 blacks..

It does have one nice feature, that is the Dupex unite..

But I can't stand Bubble Jets..

 

[SleeperMan]

The Nearest New Canon is the PIXMA iP4000, but its still only a 3
colour
printer, 3 colours and 2 blacks..

It does have one nice feature, that is the Dupex unite..

But I can't stand Bubble Jets..

Epson has additional gloss optimizer, while Canon doesn't ...i wonder
why...but i've heard that Epson prints doesn't come as glossy as Canons' .
and that's why gloss optimizer...

 

[Tony]

Yes a great printer for its price, and nothing else to touch it..


And you can get those cheap Ink Tec, Ink tanks made in the UK for it.

You just can't loose..

That should be fascinating for a new buyer: within a few posts practically
most of the concerns of experienced users. A Canon Bubblejet (Heat ink
delivery) can burn out printheads. The Peizo quartz (Epson cold electro) can
suffer from ink starvation or apparent head clogging. But, most of my
customers never seem to have a problem with this, which leads us to believe
the UK climate is a good place for Epson printers. Canon's have the cheaper
ink tanks. But it is about total cost of ownership over say 2 years.
In a recent PC-Pro ink usage test across some 14 printers the R300 returned
450 pages text and 250 6x4 photos where they printed until the cartridges
were exhausted. That's 21 pence per 6x4 photo using Epson prices and 9 pence
using the current JetTec cartridge prices.
I would think Dabs or Simply would give you a good price comparison.
Tony

Inkylink JetTec UK/USA Quality - Wot others wanna-be
http://www.inkylinkusa.com/inkylinkusa.shtml UPS from Las Vegas
http://www.inkylink.co.uk UK recorded post next day
The home of the 30% more JetTec ink reset chip

 

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Epson has additional gloss optimizer, while Canon doesn't ...i wonder
why...but i've heard that Epson prints doesn't come as glossy as
Canons' . and that's why gloss optimizer...

R800 has gloss optimizer because pictures made of pigmented inks
doesn't come as glossy as from dye based.

 

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In a
recent PC-Pro ink usage test across some 14 printers the R300
returned 450 pages text and 250 6x4 photos where they printed until
the cartridges were exhausted. That's 21 pence per 6x4 photo using
Epson prices and 9 pence using the current JetTec cartridge prices.
I would think Dabs or Simply would give you a good price comparison.

And what were the results of other printers? Can I read it somewhere in
the Internet? Do you know of any good printer comparison articles in
the Internet?

 

[SleeperMan]

R800 has gloss optimizer because pictures made of pigmented inks
doesn't come as glossy as from dye based.

Aha...now from this comes a second question...why does Epson uses pigmented
ink while others use dye ink? It can't be the price...

 

[SleeperMan]

That should be fascinating for a new buyer: within a few posts
practically most of the concerns of experienced users. A Canon
Bubblejet (Heat ink delivery) can burn out printheads. The Peizo
quartz (Epson cold electro) can suffer from ink starvation or
apparent head clogging. But, most of my customers never seem to have
a problem with this, which leads us to believe the UK climate is a
good place for Epson printers. Canon's have the cheaper ink tanks.
But it is about total cost of ownership over say 2 years.
In a recent PC-Pro ink usage test across some 14 printers the R300
returned 450 pages text and 250 6x4 photos where they printed until
the cartridges were exhausted. That's 21 pence per 6x4 photo using
Epson prices and 9 pence using the current JetTec cartridge prices.
I would think Dabs or Simply would give you a good price comparison.
Tony

Inkylink JetTec UK/USA Quality - Wot others wanna-be
http://www.inkylinkusa.com/inkylinkusa.shtml UPS from Las Vegas
http://www.inkylink.co.uk UK recorded post next day
The home of the 30% more JetTec ink reset chip

Not that i'm Canon's fan, but according to latest tests, Canon's iP4000 has
way cheapest print cost per page. And Canon's head theoretically can't burn
out, since printer will stop printing when it's out of ink, while there are
several complaints about Epson head clogging.

 

[Tony]

And what were the results of other printers? Can I read it somewhere in
the Internet? Do you know of any good printer comparison articles in
the Internet?

As stated PC-pro who have most of their articles on line. I'm trying to
compile our users results and add this to those of PC-pro as the question
arises so often. But, it takes time and I don't have much of that
The Canon i560 was Mono (5% coverage ?) 409 pages, 240 6x4 images. cost Mono
1.5pence Photo 11.2 pence.
Epson Stylus 950 Mono 628, Images 628. Cost Mono 2.9 pence , Images 24.1
pence.
In all case the tests were conducted by exhausting the cartridges at one go.
The Epson Stylus C84 (Pigmented) was a clear price leader with 983 Mono
pages and Images 218. Cost Mono 2.4 pence and Images 12.1 pence.All pigment
cartridges.
The JetTec cartridges are aimed at 50% of the Epson prices so you can get a
fair cost comparison from that.
Tony

 

[SleeperMan]

As stated PC-pro who have most of their articles on line. I'm trying
to compile our users results and add this to those of PC-pro as the
question arises so often. But, it takes time and I don't have much of
that
The Canon i560 was Mono (5% coverage ?) 409 pages, 240 6x4 images.
cost Mono
1.5pence Photo 11.2 pence.
Epson Stylus 950 Mono 628, Images 628. Cost Mono 2.9 pence , Images
24.1 pence.
In all case the tests were conducted by exhausting the cartridges at
one go. The Epson Stylus C84 (Pigmented) was a clear price leader
with 983 Mono pages and Images 218. Cost Mono 2.4 pence and Images
12.1 pence.All pigment cartridges.
The JetTec cartridges are aimed at 50% of the Epson prices so you can
get a fair cost comparison from that.
Tony

From above i see that Epson did print most count of pages, but price per
page is still higher than Canon. Now depends on which one has more
quality...

 

[Povl H. Pedersen]

Aha...now from this comes a second question...why does Epson uses pigmented
ink while others use dye ink? It can't be the price...

Pigments will stay the same color for way longer time.

 

[Tony]

Not that i'm Canon's fan, but according to latest tests, Canon's iP4000
has

way cheapest print cost per page. And Canon's head theoretically can't burn
out, since printer will stop printing when it's out of ink, while there are
several complaints about Epson head clogging.

I think the main complaint I see is that head clogs are avoidable and can be
cleared quite simply. Theoretically is a great word when applied to Canon as
periodically this usenet group and others is sometimes full of users
searching for new Canon printheads ? My experience is that the Canon heat
burst techniques will show signs of wear whereas the Epson slogs on for
longer. If you factor in the Canon cheaper prices for the printer and
equally the cartridges and ease of filling maybe over 2 years of equal use
the Canon would win for most home users.
The typical user however is quite amazed when his familiar old printer
eventually turns its toes up and dies. We are still for instance supplying
Epson 800/850/880 cartridges in some quantity.
Tony

 

[SleeperMan]

I think the main complaint I see is that head clogs are avoidable and
can be cleared quite simply. Theoretically is a great word when
applied to Canon as periodically this usenet group and others is
sometimes full of users searching for new Canon printheads ? My
experience is that the Canon heat burst techniques will show signs of
wear whereas the Epson slogs on for longer. If you factor in the
Canon cheaper prices for the printer and equally the cartridges and
ease of filling maybe over 2 years of equal use the Canon would win
for most home users.
The typical user however is quite amazed when his familiar old printer
eventually turns its toes up and dies. We are still for instance
supplying Epson 800/850/880 cartridges in some quantity.
Tony

true.. like i said, my i550 died (i think )too soon...
But, if i think, quality etc...of printers do raise fast and in a year or
two it's so improved that a man just wants a new printer...sure, if one
mainly prints text and simple graphics, it's totally different.

 

[SleeperMan]

Pigments will stay the same color for way longer time.

Aha...could be...but, let me be pain in the ass...
there *is* another question, though...
if above statement is true, WHY does Canon uses dye ink in expensive
printers and pigment one in cheap ones? Maybe price...?

 

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The Canon i560 was Mono (5% coverage ?) 409 pages, 240 6x4
images. cost Mono 1.5pence Photo 11.2 pence.
The Epson Stylus C84 (Pigmented) was a clear price leader
with 983 Mono pages and Images 218. Cost Mono 2.4 pence and Images
12.1 pence.All pigment cartridges.

Thanks. Could you also quote me scores of HP and Lexmark printers?

 

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if above statement is true, WHY does Canon uses dye ink in expensive
printers and pigment one in cheap ones? Maybe price...?

Canon uses only black pigmented ink in more expensive printers (3BK in
iP3000 and higher). In photo printers pigmented black is useless
because it doesn't mix well with dye based inks and the quality is
worse. It doesn't give durability because color inks are dye.

 

[Hecate]

Thanks. Could you also quote me scores of HP and Lexmark printers?

You really., really don't want a Lexmark. They'll come with a one
year warranty and break down completely on day 366 (or day 367 if it's
a leap year). They are the most unreliable inkjets on the market. And
that's not even considering the ridiculous prices they charge for
their cartridges.