Vista Activation By Phone

[Shane Nokes]

If you're saying that those who actually test this software are of sub-par
intelligence I would stop right there if I were you.

The people you see here who have things like MVP and MSFT next to their
names are the ones you're likely to piss off and they are the ones who would
be the most likely to help you with future problems.

I mean honestly think logically.

Why would I be so pissed off about the way you're acting if you were
correct?

 

[Alias]

I don't remember the exact name of the outfit but they've been around
since the early PC days. I think it is something like Software
Publishers of America. Anyway, there was something in some of the
license agreements from some software provider - I don't know if it was
Microsoft or not - that, by accepting the agreement, a company I worked
for agreed to allow audits by the organization and fines at 3 times the
cost of any unlicensed software installed. The company got hit with
300,000 dollars in fines. Before I worked there.

They still didn't learn. As far as I know, they're still using illegal
software all over the place.

Dale

You mean like the "illegal" booze millions guzzled during the Prohibition?

Or do you mean like when black people started breaking the law by going
to vote?

Public disobedience has changed a lot of laws and is an integral part of
a healthy democracy.

When Napster was at its peak, so were music sales. Since the crackdown,
music sales have plummeted. How do you explain that?

A lot of people will not put up with the anti piracy crap that is being
forced onto our computers and the only one to suffer will be the vendors
like MS who place more importance on what Big Business wants instead of
their paying customers.

Alias

 

[Alias]

The companies got caught (often enough because a disgruntled employee
or ex-employee 'got even') and agreed to pay Microsoft money in order
to 'get righteous'.

Oh, it wasn't MS' fancy-dancy anti piracy programs? Why am I not surprised?

Alias

 

[Dale]

I agree. When I posted against stealing Vista for one's own benefit but
included that if the person really hated Microsoft and thought they were
evil and deserved to be stolen from, I suggested helping those who couldn't
otherwise afford Vista hack it as a form of civil disobedience. The
difference is who benefits. When the person being disobedient to the laws
is the only one benefitting, I don't think that quite qualifies as civil
disobedience.

Dale

I don't remember the exact name of the outfit but they've been around
since the early PC days. I think it is something like Software
Publishers of America. Anyway, there was something in some of the
license agreements from some software provider - I don't know if it was
Microsoft or not - that, by accepting the agreement, a company I worked
for agreed to allow audits by the organization and fines at 3 times the
cost of any unlicensed software installed. The company got hit with
300,000 dollars in fines. Before I worked there.

They still didn't learn. As far as I know, they're still using illegal
software all over the place.

Dale

You mean like the "illegal" booze millions guzzled during the Prohibition?

Or do you mean like when black people started breaking the law by going to
vote?

Public disobedience has changed a lot of laws and is an integral part of a
healthy democracy.

When Napster was at its peak, so were music sales. Since the crackdown,
music sales have plummeted. How do you explain that?

A lot of people will not put up with the anti piracy crap that is being
forced onto our computers and the only one to suffer will be the vendors
like MS who place more importance on what Big Business wants instead of
their paying customers.

Alias

 

[Dale]

I have no idea why you would be so pissed off about the way I am "acting".
This is a newsgroup. I posted an opinion that you disagree with and you are
pissed? Big deal.

You take yourself and your importance here much too seriously. And I sure
as hell don't care if you are pissed at me, or if I get on your nerves or
anything else.

The folks here really didn't need you to come in here from your beta-cave
and save the world from the likes of me. They are grown men and women and
are perfectly capable of responding to or ignoring what I, or anyone else,
say here. And that includes the Microsoft employees and the MVPs. In fact,
for those of us who are adults here, we can, and often do, strongly disagree
in one thread and have cordial discussions in another thread. We don't
judge people's character by what they say in a newsgroup.

So, take off your cape, Stuperman, and move on to someone else for your
stalking.


Dale

 

[Alias]

I agree. When I posted against stealing Vista for one's own benefit but
included that if the person really hated Microsoft and thought they were
evil and deserved to be stolen from, I suggested helping those who
couldn't otherwise afford Vista hack it as a form of civil
disobedience. The difference is who benefits. When the person being
disobedient to the laws is the only one benefitting, I don't think that
quite qualifies as civil disobedience.

Dale

So you think that only one person in the whole world disagrees with MS
and the other Big Business' EULAs?

Alias

 

[Dale]

The three day limit is supposedly only applicable to Vista Enterprise. I
suggest checking the source of your Vista to be sure it is legitimate.


Dale

 

[Shane Nokes]

Excuse me? Stalking?

Who was it that in other threads for no reason posted negative things about
me?

You're the one who said they should consider the source in another thread
where it had nothing to do with you.

So who is following whom here?

My point being you post loads of crap around and then expect people to be
happy.

My whole point is this. People have issues with Vista just like they had
issues with every other OS when it was first made.

About 90% of these issues are PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard &
Chair)

That's not to say these users are stupid, just that they don't know what
they are doing.

So when someone like me tries to defuse the situation caused by other people
just saying Vista is crap or Vista is junk why should I get attacked? I'm
also merely offering my opinion and viewpoint and overzealous trolls like
yourself feel that it's ok to defend alternative viewpoints (just so long as
it's YOUR alternative viewpoint that's defended.)

As I've said before, bring something worth reading to the table or just be
quiet.

 

[Dale]

It is a generally known fact that striking for MVP will not get you an MVP
award. Quit trying. Blasting anyone who says anything negative about Vista
or Microsoft will not get you an MVP award.

You, like me, will never be an MVP. One common trait I find in almost every
MVP I have had dealings with is restraint. Neither you nor I excel at that.
Give it up.


Dale

 

[Hugh Wyn Griffith]

recently I have purchased vista home basic  and it is giving me to 3 days 
only for activation,

VISTA comes with a 30 day activation window unless it is the Enterprise
version which is not sold retail but to businesses who use it legitimately
to install on all their machines under a global licence. (That's my wording
not the Microsoft wording).

So I would guess that your copy is not legitimate and that you are likely to
run into trouble for example in getting updates when WGA will tell you that
you have not got a legitimate copy.

 

[Michael Cecil]

VISTA comes with a 30 day activation window unless it is the Enterprise
version which is not sold retail but to businesses who use it legitimately
to install on all their machines under a global licence. (That's my wording
not the Microsoft wording).

So I would guess that your copy is not legitimate and that you are likely to
run into trouble for example in getting updates when WGA will tell you that
you have not got a legitimate copy.

Or it's just saying he has 3 days until it automatically activates...

 

[Nina DiBoy]

X Windows in Linux has an unlimited license of number of installations.

Even MS-DOS and PC-DOS had this license restriction -- one license per
computer.

Basically, all software, unless specified, is licensed per computer (or
device).

Generally speaking, I agree. But not all microsoft software has been
that way always.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/83926

"Under the licensing agreements for Microsoft applications software and
Windows 3.0, if the software is permanently installed on the hard disk
or other storage device of a computer (other than a network server) and
one person uses that computer more than 80 percent of the time it is in
use, then that person may also use the software on a portable or home
computer."

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"I do know for a fact that his monkey really needs a spanking. The monkey
gets "out of hand" if you know what I mean!"

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

 

[Hugh Wyn Griffith]

Possible but I'll let him say that!