Windows Vista Ultimate Re-Activation?

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Guest

Greets,

I have had my computer for nearly 6 months, and a couple days ago right
after statup, I get the windows popup "windows could not activate" and then
something along the lines of "click here for troubleshooting".

So when I get back into Windows Activation it's giving me 30 days to
activate and it won't activate on-line.

I have been through the various activation related issues with other
machines but not with this one.

Why did this happen?

Is Vista requireing multiple activations over periods of time?

Before I go through the phone activation, I wanted to know more as to why
this even happened.

Just for basics:

I did NOT get a new computer, change hardware (it's a notebook) and i have
not installed vista elswhere, and my copy is a legitimate copy which I have
not copied/lent out to others.

Thanks for any and all input.

Joe
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

Without a complete analysis of you recent installation
log files, there is no way to determine why you are
prompted for re-activation. However, there is a solution:

You may be prompted to activate Windows Vista on a computer on which
Windows Vista was already activated by a Volume License or OEM installation:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;931573

You can reset your Windows Vista activation by performing the following:

1. Click on the Start button and in the Start Search box type in: slui.exe 4

2. Press the Enter key on your keyboard.

3. Select your Country.

4. Follow the instructions for phone activation.

5. Once completed, restart your computer.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

:

Greets,

I have had my computer for nearly 6 months, and a couple days ago right
after statup, I get the windows popup "windows could not activate" and then
something along the lines of "click here for troubleshooting".

So when I get back into Windows Activation it's giving me 30 days to
activate and it won't activate on-line.

I have been through the various activation related issues with other
machines but not with this one.

Why did this happen?

Is Vista requireing multiple activations over periods of time?

Before I go through the phone activation, I wanted to know more as to why
this even happened.

Just for basics:

I did NOT get a new computer, change hardware (it's a notebook) and i have
not installed vista elswhere, and my copy is a legitimate copy which I have
not copied/lent out to others.

Thanks for any and all input.

Joe
 
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Kevin Weaver

Lang Murphy said:
Please list bug-free software here:

1.Vista. :) At least products I regestir dont keep asking me to make phone
calls to re-regester after I've done so.

2. I've yet to see diskeeper have any. Hell, And if so, there not show
stopers like vista is.
I run vista. But with that said, It's far from being better then XP Was when
shiped out, Vista cant even go into sleep mode. A simple copying of files
was faster in win 9X then vista.

The next time Vista wants me to phone home. I'm not. I'll just run a simple
crack and put a end to this crap.
 
G

Guest

Carey,

Thank you for the response and as I mentioned in my original post, I am
aware of the phone activation/prorcess to activate Windows.

My question/concern here is as to WHY this happened and WHY is it needed.
It's just another PIA to deal with that shouldn't be necesary when you go
ahead and purchase legitimate software, don't do anything 'crafty' with it,
and you still get penalized with another time waster (because we all have
extra time on our hands we don't know what to do with) so that I can
re-activate my copy of Windows, on my own machine, that I didn't do anything
'crafty' with.

Activation, like keys for locks only keep the honest people out.

Those that choose to circumvent these systems, for whatever reason, are
going to regardless.

Oh well... I'll re-activate...

Thanks again.

Joe
 
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john

Alpine said:
Greets,

I have had my computer for nearly 6 months, and a couple days ago right
after statup, I get the windows popup "windows could not activate" and
then
something along the lines of "click here for troubleshooting".

So when I get back into Windows Activation it's giving me 30 days to
activate and it won't activate on-line.

I have been through the various activation related issues with other
machines but not with this one.

Why did this happen?

Is Vista requireing multiple activations over periods of time?

Before I go through the phone activation, I wanted to know more as to why
this even happened.

Because M$ wants you to prove over and over and over again that you are not
a thief.

People here have already found they have to reactivate just because they ran
Windows Update and downloaded a new device driver. This is just the new M$
anti-piracy measures at work... sort of like being pulled over by the same
cop at the exact same spot every freakin day and forced at gunpoint to prove
you didn't steal the car.

Get used to it, it will only get worse.

...and the best part of all this is, it doesn't slow the pirates down even
one little bit - they've already figured out how to circumvent this
ridiculous crap, it only inconveniences the honest users.

atta boy Ballmer. have a banana...
 
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john

Carey Frisch said:
Without a complete analysis of you recent installation
log files, there is no way to determine why you are
prompted for re-activation. However, there is a solution:

You may be prompted to activate Windows Vista on a computer on which
Windows Vista was already activated by a Volume License or OEM
installation:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;931573

You can reset your Windows Vista activation by performing the following:

1. Click on the Start button and in the Start Search box type in:
slui.exe 4

2. Press the Enter key on your keyboard.

3. Select your Country.

4. Follow the instructions for phone activation.

5. Once completed, restart your computer.


you forgot to add:

6. Keep that phone number handy because you're gonna need it, often.
 
K

Kevin Weaver

Like I said. next time its a crack.

john said:
Because M$ wants you to prove over and over and over again that you are
not a thief.

People here have already found they have to reactivate just because they
ran Windows Update and downloaded a new device driver. This is just the
new M$ anti-piracy measures at work... sort of like being pulled over by
the same cop at the exact same spot every freakin day and forced at
gunpoint to prove you didn't steal the car.

Get used to it, it will only get worse.

..and the best part of all this is, it doesn't slow the pirates down even
one little bit - they've already figured out how to circumvent this
ridiculous crap, it only inconveniences the honest users.

atta boy Ballmer. have a banana...
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Cracks will only result in requiring you
to reformat and reinstall Vista. Microsoft
is keenly aware of all the cracks out there.
 
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Ronnie Vernon MVP

Alpine, John, and others

Do you really, really think that after all of the bad press and complaints
that Microsoft has received over the last 7 years about Product Activation
that they would still be using it if they weren't seeing any benefit?

You can say anything you want about Microsoft, but with the success they
have had, you can't say that they are stupid.

I equate PA with so many other things that 'honest' people have to put up
with today. If you go into any large computer store you are constantly under
surveillance from hidden cameras. Some items that you purchase, you are not
even allowed to carry the item to the check out, because they are small
enough to slip into your pocket. Even after you check out, you are stopped
at the exit where a security person checks the contents of your bag with
your receipt.

PA keeps honest people honest and for anyone to deny the existence of casual
copying, which PA was designed to stop, is to have your head buried in the
sand. I was on staff at a learning institute and I personally knew one
person who distributed over 500 copies of Windows 98 at that school for one
dollar a copy. He was so open with this that he actually had a box sitting
on a table in the cafeteria where anyone could buy a copy.

The honest people are always the one's that have to pay the bill for the
dishonest people.
 
A

Adam Albright

Alpine, John, and others

Do you really, really think that after all of the bad press and complaints
that Microsoft has received over the last 7 years about Product Activation
that they would still be using it if they weren't seeing any benefit?

You can say anything you want about Microsoft, but with the success they
have had, you can't say that they are stupid.

I equate PA with so many other things that 'honest' people have to put up
with today. If you go into any large computer store you are constantly under
surveillance from hidden cameras. Some items that you purchase, you are not
even allowed to carry the item to the check out, because they are small
enough to slip into your pocket. Even after you check out, you are stopped
at the exit where a security person checks the contents of your bag with
your receipt.

Sounds like you've been to Fry's. said:
PA keeps honest people honest and for anyone to deny the existence of casual
copying, which PA was designed to stop, is to have your head buried in the
sand. I was on staff at a learning institute and I personally knew one
person who distributed over 500 copies of Windows 98 at that school for one
dollar a copy. He was so open with this that he actually had a box sitting
on a table in the cafeteria where anyone could buy a copy.

The honest people are always the one's that have to pay the bill for the
dishonest people.

Why do you think that is fair or proper?
 
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Ronnie Vernon MVP

Kevin

It's really amazing, before Product Activation was used to fight casual
copying, the people who were dishonest enough to participate in this always
denied doing it. And now here you are publicly stating that you are going to
make sure that Product Activation stays around as long as possible.
 
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Kevin Weaver

Ronnie Vernon MVP said:
Kevin

It's really amazing, before Product Activation was used to fight casual
copying, the people who were dishonest enough to participate in this
always denied doing it. And now here you are publicly stating that you are
going to make sure that Product Activation stays around as long as
possible.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

Yeah, like that's going to change.

So I pay for software to the tune of 300.00 for vista then play phone tag
with Microsoft ? I won't this game again. Next time I'll apply the crack! As
we all know that the person that thought of this game is high on crack.
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

There are a set of Windows system files and processes that are
protected by Software Protection Platform (SPP) in order to
prevent licensing hacks and work-arounds. Because changes to
these files and processes can destabilize the system or open it up
for further attacks, Microsoft requires tampered systems to be
reinstalled from original media. Some forms of piracy may trigger
the tamper response and cause Windows to require reinstallation.
 
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john

Ronnie Vernon MVP said:
Alpine, John, and others
The honest people are always the one's that have to pay the bill for the
dishonest people.

while that may be true, it doesn't make it right.
like most things these days, it just all about $$, screw the customer.
it only goes on because we tolerate it.

that's the same logic that allows:
- insurance companies to raise everybody's rates through the roof following
Katrina.
- oil companies to jack up prices every time the wind blows in the Gulf.
- the government to kick in the door to your house in order to protect you
from terrorists.

etc, etc.

what sheep we've become.
 
T

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Ronnie said:
Kevin

It's really amazing, before Product Activation was used to fight casual
copying, the people who were dishonest enough to participate in this
always denied doing it. And now here you are publicly stating that you
are going to make sure that Product Activation stays around as long as
possible.

That is only your interpretation. The reason he speaks of using a crack
is because there are cracks out there that have no problem making vista
run while being able to get MS updates and not run into activation
issues. This means that PA is a flawed DRM tool.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

The moment you install any "crack" that attempts to alter
or modify the activation or WGA binaries, the computer
will default to "reduced functionality mode" and a reinstall
of Vista will be required. The so-called "crack experts"
don't mention this since their goal is not to help, but
to harm your computer and laugh at everyone that
downloads a "crack". And FYI, Microsoft analyses
all the cracks out there and has found that the majority
of cracks contain harmful spyware, malware or malicious
"root kits" that will turn a computer into big-time security risk.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

Ronnie said:
Kevin

It's really amazing, before Product Activation was used to fight casual
copying, the people who were dishonest enough to participate in this
always denied doing it. And now here you are publicly stating that you
are going to make sure that Product Activation stays around as long as
possible.

That is only your interpretation. The reason he speaks of using a crack
is because there are cracks out there that have no problem making vista
run while being able to get MS updates and not run into activation
issues. This means that PA is a flawed DRM tool.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
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norm

Carey said:
The moment you install any "crack" that attempts to alter
or modify the activation or WGA binaries, the computer
will default to "reduced functionality mode" and a reinstall
of Vista will be required. The so-called "crack experts"
don't mention this since their goal is not to help, but
to harm your computer and laugh at everyone that
downloads a "crack". And FYI, Microsoft analyses
all the cracks out there and has found that the majority
of cracks contain harmful spyware, malware or malicious
"root kits" that will turn a computer into big-time security risk.
Actually, windows WITHOUT cracks can "contain harmful spyware, malware
or malicious "root kits" that will turn a computer into a big-time
security risk". ;)
 

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